I've started a

"Tell me why you hate Halle Berry" thread in Other for those that want to contribute.

Halle does rub me the wrong way, but I don't really blame her for wanting to leave the X-franchise, especially since she never really seemed to be very interested in it. I was watching the documentary on the X2 DVD, and all the other actors had things to say about their characters, working on the movie, etc. Halle was the only one who was nowhere to be found (though perhaps she was working on other stuff). But if she can get a starring role elsewhere that's more challenging to her, more power to her.

Does anyone else want to see Dazzler in the roller skates and Farrah hair?

wasnt halle berry invovled in a hit and run a few years ago?

You are right when talking about her career. I don't think anyone will disagree that it is a good move for her but that still doesn't clear her from being a total "diva" about everything.

I have seen almost all the movies that she has been in. She is not that good, but she sure is acting like she is. I think THAT is what irritates people about her. It is totally undeserved.

Take Russell Crowe. Apparently he has a bit of a temper. But people still accept him because he is an excellent actor. Besides, I think his temper is blown out of proportion.

Utter and complete bullshit.

I'm sorry but Berry wouldn't be where she is if she wasnt't able to back it. You Halle haters here might think she sucks but in the real world YOU GUYS are in the minority.

hey, what's wrong with my post? Just wondering since most of the people on here are having about the same opinion as me


oh actually i see. My point is that noone is in my opinion a good enough actor/actress to DEMAND anything from a movie they are in. If i were the director it would just be much easier to replace the one actor on the crew who wasn't with the cast and wanted to cry about how much of a role they got. Oh and although i don't like most of her movies, I have no problem in general with her it's just this prima donna attitude that is the main reason i'm bashing her.

and yes, that is what i was also trying to get at. If she would have just left saying she had other offers on the table then that would be fine, but demanding that her part be made bigger or she would leave? That's just wrong

I just don't agree with you. You may not like Halle's acting (hell I don't either, she's normally not that great) but her position gives her all the right to demand a bigger part. Her part kinda sucked, and if anything the character of Storm SHOULD have a bigger part. Halle is a major marketing benefit to the film (whether you like her or not, she is, her box office record proves that she is, whether you want to makes excuses film by film or not) and she has every right to ask for a bigger part. What idiot wouldn't? If someone low balls you on a job offer, do you just walk away with your head between your legs? Or do you ask for more, then leave? A LOT of what determines who gets what roles is based more on marketing potential than just acting ability. I know you may hate this, but you can't blame Halle Berry for it. It's a pervasive fact in Hollywood, also known as show BUSINESS. I know deep down we'd all like it to be just about the art, but you're delusional if you ever think it really is. And XMen is a big studio picture, not some artistic low budget soon to be masterpiece. Fox makes a lot of money off these, enough that any actor isn't going to want to particapate while being slighted on quality of role, money, and time. Why would they? Would you?

This isn't about being a prima donna. Hollywood success isn't just based on acting ability. It's a fact you have to deal with, and to blast someone for wanting more I think is ridiculous. You may not like the fact that actors demand bigger parts, but it's a reality. I don't see what's so awful about it. If you've got the clout, why in God's name would you not use it? This isn't the salvation army, it's a business. Halle should look out for herself, not the betterment of comic book fandom. It's just that EVERY big actor does exactly the same thing all the time, but I never see anyone else being blasted for this.

And the MOST amusing thing about all this is that none of the bashers actually want her in the film. You should be congratulating her on her exit, instead of bashing her. So I just don't understand. It's a lose lose situation for her. She's found a lot of success and I congrtulate her on that. And she's running her career with a modicum of brains.

Nowhere near would it F-UP that trilogy the way Gloria Foster f****d The Matrix by not appearing in the one film where her character actually revealed her true purpose and tied everything together.

my point is, why give them an ultimatum? Why not just leave if it isn't going to offer you what you want? I don't walk up to my boss at work and say "I'm the best employee here so you give me a raise or i'm leaving". I will be fired more than likely or told to hit the road. Everyone is expendable in a business such as this and she can't expect them to change the whole script to give her more screentime than was already written in. Halle's moving on, I really am happy for her. If she didn't feel the part was up to her standards then she SHOULD leave. I wouldn't stay at a job i hated just because the money is good when i could get a job that i liked elsewhere for the same or more money, so i do understand that. I'm sorry if i didn't make that clear or didn't write it correctly. The only thing i don't like about this is how she apparently gave them an ultimatum and that to me is just a crybaby way to get what you want. I also think that they should not replace her because it won't be the same, sure I don't think she's the best actress ever but it will look stupid having another person playing a role such as this. I can't remember the last movie that i liked where they changed an actor from the previous ones.

and let me reinterate this.. i do not have a problem with her personally. Of all the movies on imdb that she has done there's only a few i've seen and out of the 6 or 7 that i've seen the only one that really stands out to me is Executive Decision in which i think she did do a pretty good job. There you made me say it

Jessica Simpson as the Dazzler ! gimme a break!

Cameron Diaz would make a good dazzler

You're kidding right? You do know she died in real life and they had no choice but to replace her?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0287825/

I'd like to offer the following bit of dialogue to the producers of X-Men 3 for use in their film:




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I think Jessica Simpson would make a good Dazzler

Agreed.

Introduce new mutants - heres some I'd like to see

Hank McCoy (Beast)
Havok
Polaris (in fact Id like to see the inclusion of just about all of XFactor)
Bishop
Angel
Apocalypse
Cable
Maverick
not a mutants but would also be nice to intriduce Dr. Moira McTaggert in a cameo.

For some reason I see Jessica Simpsons as more of a BOOM BOOM.

though since I mark out as being a gambit fan I really do want him to be in X3.

You REALLY think she is that good? I mean really. You really think she can fill the space her ego has filled? I don't think so. I don't care about if I'm in the minority or not.

And thanks for reminding me that we are talking about the real world. I totally forgot and everything I said actually applies to the faux world. Sorry about that.

You REALLY think that matters in Hollywood? I mean really. The real world is that Halle Berry is popular, her films do well, and she can open a film decently. Will Catwoman be a major success? Probably not, but it won't be the mega bomb everyone is expecting either.

The REAL world view is that Halle is a major star. You call it ego, I call it reality. She's got the power to demand it and the clout to do it. I'm sorry that you hate that this actress does, but she does. For some reason she's not supposed to take lead roles and do exactly what every other leading actor does because you don't like her. Seriously. Ego does not mean you try and get the best for yourself. She has every right to demand more. She's earned it...whether through good acting or luck (it's usually the latter) that's just how it is.

I wouldnt go that far.

Bulworth didn't make back its budget in the US.

Neither did B.A.P.S.

Rich Man's Wife didn't even make $9 mil.

Race the Sun grossed a whopping $1.7 mil.

Losing Isaiah cost $17 mil. It made about $8.5 worldwide.

Swordfish cost $80 mil. It made $69.8 mil in the US.


Die Another Day and X-Men made money but not because of Halle.

Her only real successes were Monster's Ball and Gothika.

Her average Tomatometer score: 44%

She wasnt crap until she stripped down and ground her ass up against BBT in Monster's Ball - I heard everyone talking about this and finally decided to watch it on TV one night...

Big fukcing deal...I've seen way better

Truth is there are only two reasons that ANYONE will go see Catwoman in a theater or even bother to rent it...

1. You're a Halle Berry lover
2. You wanna see Halle Berry walk around in her underwear with a whip

I can think of lots better to look at walking around in their underwear that her - she's not really that big a deal to look at...Yes I did see Swordfish....so what?

Truth is she left X3 behind because she wants to pursue more challenging roles........

......uumm, Catwoman? That wasnt more challenging, you just got top billing, and you felt upstaged by a fairly new name and face in the game - THATS what it was.

Cough up another hairball Halle, I think you're fullacrap, but thats fine, X3 can get along just fine without you.

Well let's be realistic. She wasn't really A list material until she won that Oscar. And looking at box office trends for female actresses, she's got a lot more success than your average actress. Even only in those four films, and even though she's not headlining them, that's more than most woman can account for.

You have to be relative. Compared to A list male actors she's small potatos. Compared to A list female actresses she's at the top of the heap, only behind Julia Roberts or Reese Witherspoon and a few others. She's not commanding 20 million dollars a picture or anything now.

She STILL isn't A list material even with the shiny paper weight.

Well, depends on what you mean by A list. When I say A list, I mean by Hollywood terms. In terms of acting quality...well I would agree with you, but that doesn't change the commercial weight she carries, whether you like her or not.


She is A list for a female actress in the commercial sense. I know everyone hates her, but it's true.

I agree. Berry's a quality actress. If you doubt that you need to go back and look at a few of her other non-oscar credits: Introducing Dorothy Dandridge & Alex Haley's Queen.

Even though CatWoman may turn out terrible, that doesn't mean her career is going down the tubes. The same way some feel about Berry is how some feel about Kate Hudson. Their respective choices in film seems to have taken a drastic turn for the worse after experiencing critical acclaim most actors will never achieve. That doesn't mean that they won't return to more worthwhile roles. Even great actors have clusters in their resume that they aren't proud of. That's no reason to write them off forever. The same thing happened to Joan Crawford.

I'll sell my Berry and Hudson stock after two more years of continuous mediocrity.

Not a hardcore x-geek, but my thoughts are

a) dont put in someone else please
b) halle be a sport and do an 'extended cameo' so Storm doesnt just disappear
c) get the movie in the theaters already!