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Jericho 06-20-04 11:27 PM

If White Chicks even makes half of $50 million, I'd lose all faith in humanity. I really don't get any appeal of that movie

fumanstan 06-20-04 11:42 PM

Wow, i'm sorry to see Around the World tank. I really wish it was marketed better stateside and not as just some throw away Jackie Chan vehicle.

Mountain Biker 06-20-04 11:58 PM


Originally posted by Jericho
If White Chicks even makes half of $50 million, I'd lose all faith in humanity. I really don't get any appeal of that movie
:thumbsup: My thoughts exactly.

jaeufraser 06-21-04 12:00 AM


Originally posted by Sessa17
Actually, yes, I said before it opened that I thought Passion would having the largest opening weekend in movie history, I even posted in somewhere here & people flamed me for thinking that. Like I said, I think people, critics, experts, were stupid for thinking it wasn't going to be that big. Never had any thoughts about titanic, still haven't seen it.
Well, I'll take your word for that...someone always guesses right, but I think it's a bit much to say people are stupid for thinking it wouldn't do that well. I mean, 1 month before it came out it was struggling to find theaters to be shown in. So while you may be right, to say people were stupid for not expecting it I think is a bit ridiculous.

resinrats 06-21-04 12:34 AM


Originally posted by marty888
So let's see..... Eisner picked up <i>Around The World</i> and passed on <i>Fahrenheit 9/11</i>. Here's a man who obviously has his fingers on the pulsebeat of the movie world.
Considering that 80 Days will make more money than Fahrenheit 9/11 and will probably turn a profit eventually worldwide & video sales, dropping Moore's movie was probably smart. Face it, the average public doesn't give a crap about moore's agenda movie. F 9/11 will hardly make a dent in any BO scales.

Matthew Chmiel 06-21-04 12:50 AM


Originally posted by scott shelton
NOTEBOOK has done very well with test audiences and WOM screenings... I wouldn't call it dead just yet.

And TWO BROTHERS is a great family film. If there was any justice in the world, this film will find an audience. I recommend it highly to everybody here.

While The Notebook might have some positive test screenings and good WOM, the film is opening in one of the most crowded summers of recent history. The film will (sadly) be lost in the shuffle and will probably find life on DVD and television. I really want to see it, but I don't want to be the only male by themselves in the theater. ;) It's either this or White Chicks... and I hate the Wayans... so I'll probably end up seeing White Chicks instead. ;)

I can see Two Brothers being DOA. I can not only see it, but I can feel it. Good family films can make millions and millions. Now great family films are overlooked and die early deaths when in theaters (The Iron Giant).


Matthew, you seem to be pretty good at this box office analysis. You should join us in the HSX game (see link in my sig).
Thanks for the offer, but maybe one day soon when I'm not busy with work and registering for the fall semester. That and I have an anti-HSX stance (I've had it since 1999)... hmmm, I wonder if my account is still there... :)

jaeufraser 06-21-04 12:54 AM


Originally posted by resinrats
Considering that 80 Days will make more money than Fahrenheit 9/11 and will probably turn a profit eventually worldwide & video sales, dropping Moore's movie was probably smart. Face it, the average public doesn't give a crap about moore's agenda movie. F 9/11 will hardly make a dent in any BO scales.
Well, I disagree on that one. F 9/11 will probably do quite well, and probably end up one of the highest grossing docus ever. Though if anyone thinks it's going to muscle to 100 million or something, I think they're insane. But it should do well for what it is. Bowling for Columbine still made 21 million at the box office, and I have no doubt F 9/11 will outgross that easily. You may hate Moore, you may think his movie is idiotic and a lie, but let's not try and pretend that no one wants to see it. That would be...silly and stupid.

And yes...F 9/11 will outgross Around the World in 80 Days...at least for Disney. Since they're only in charge of domestic release, and it's heading for a 20 million dollar gross or so, I don't think it'll be too hard for F 9/11 to beat that, especially since Bowling made more than that also.

Nonetheless, I've got no problem with Disney dumping that movie. I wish Miramax would split from Disney period. Disney's main property is family films...their rules on decency and no NC-17 ratings have no place in a studio like Miramax.

Matthew Chmiel 06-21-04 01:09 AM

While F 9/11 might not have the box office power The Passion of the Christ did, the "bad publicity" for the film has sparked more interest in the film so that Moore fans and haters alike will end up seeing the film sometime during it's theatrical run. It will easily make more than $30 million, but who knows how much more than that. It also helps that the film will open in 700 theaters on Friday, while Bowling for Columbine was never in more than 200 tops.

Groucho 06-21-04 07:33 AM


Originally posted by Matthew Chmiel
That and I have an anti-HSX stance
:whofart:

Matthew Chmiel 06-21-04 08:13 AM


Originally posted by Groucho
:whofart: [/B]
It's a long story based on online gaming politics that occured around 1999-2000. Basically HSX took away one of my favorite online games and ****ing closed it. :(

mrpayroll 06-21-04 04:24 PM

<TABLE BORDER> <TH COLSPAN=12> <b>Final Figures for Weekend June 18 -20, 2004</b> </TH>
<TR> </TH> <TH> TW </TH> <TH> LW </TH> <TH> Title </TH> <TH> Studio </TH> <TH> Weekend Gross </TH> <TH> % Change </TH> <TH> Theater Count </TH> <TH> Change </TH> <TH> Average </TH> <TH> Total Gross </TH> <TH> Cost* </TH> <TH> Week # </TH> </TR>
<TR> </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 1 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> N </TD> <TD ALIGN = left> DodgeBall: A True Underdog Story </TD> <TD ALIGN = left> Fox </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $30,070,196 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> - </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 2,694 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> - </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $11,161 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $30,070,196 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $20 / $30 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 1 </TD> </TR>
<TR> </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 2 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> N </TD> <TD ALIGN = left> The Terminal </TD> <TD ALIGN = left> DW </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $19,053,199 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> - </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 2,811 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 2,661 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $6,778 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $19,053,199 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $60 / $35 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 1 </TD> </TR>
<TR> </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 3 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 1 </TD> <TD ALIGN = left> Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban </TD> <TD ALIGN = left> WB </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $18,027,466 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> -48.40% </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 3,805 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> -50 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $4,737 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $190,925,253 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $130 / $50 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 3 </TD> </TR>
<TR> </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 4 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 3 </TD> <TD ALIGN = left> Shrek 2 </TD> <TD ALIGN = left> DW </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $13,941,950 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> -40.20% </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 3,306 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> -537 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $4,217 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $378,623,263 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $70 / $50 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 5 </TD> </TR>
<TR> </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 5 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 4 </TD> <TD ALIGN = left> Garfield: The Movie </TD> <TD ALIGN = left> Fox </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $11,340,298 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> -47.80% </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 3,150 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 56 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $3,600 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $42,357,064 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $50 / $30 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 2 </TD> </TR>
<TR> </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 6 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 2 </TD> <TD ALIGN = left> The Chronicles of Riddick </TD> <TD ALIGN = left> Uni. </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $9,415,155 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> -61.20% </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 2,757 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> - </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $3,415 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $42,498,480 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $105 / $35 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 2 </TD> </TR>
<TR> </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 7 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 5 </TD> <TD ALIGN = left> The Stepford Wives </TD> <TD ALIGN = left> Par. </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $8,762,198 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> -59.10% </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 3,057 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> - </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $2,866 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $39,016,446 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $90 / $35 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 2 </TD> </TR>
<TR> </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 8 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 6 </TD> <TD ALIGN = left> The Day After Tomorrow </TD> <TD ALIGN = left> Fox </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $8,104,100 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> -44.30% </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 2,667 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> -543 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $3,038 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $167,310,267 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $125 / $50 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 4 </TD> </TR>
<TR> </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 9 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> N </TD> <TD ALIGN = left> Around the World in 80 Days </TD> <TD ALIGN = left> BV </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $7,576,132 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> - </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 2,801 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> - </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $2,704 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $10,362,264 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $110 / $30 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 1 </TD> </TR>
<TR> </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 10 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 8 </TD> <TD ALIGN = left> Troy </TD> <TD ALIGN = left> WB </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $1,778,352 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> -48% </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 1,303 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> -700 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $1,364 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $129,031,321 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> $175 / $50 </TD> <TD ALIGN = right> 6 </TD> </TR>
</TABLE>


Chris

devilshalo 06-21-04 04:53 PM

Garfield makes me go :hscratch:

scott shelton 06-27-04 12:13 PM


Originally posted by Matthew Chmiel
Next Week:
White Chicks = Wayans Brothers do a PG-13 gross-out comedy that will guarantee them big money from the teenage movie going audience. This film WILL BE NUMBER ONE at the box office next weekend, I guarantee that. I PREDICT OVER A $50 MILLION WEEKEND. If Scary Movie 3 can do it, so can this film.

Fahrenheit 9/11 might become one of the highest grossing documentaries ever. I predict that it might make over $30 million total at the box office. :)

The Notebook will be dead on arrival and Two Brothers won't even last two days, let alone two weeks, at the box office.

*cough* :)

Weekend for 6/25



1 Fahrenheit 9/11 $21,800,000
$21,800,000

2 White Chicks $19,600,000
$27,100,000

3 DodgeBall: A True Underdog Story $18,500,000
$67,171,000

4 The Terminal $13,900,000
$41,805,000

5 N The Notebook $13,025,000
$13,025,000

6 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban $11,420,000
$211,710,000

7 Shrek 2 $10,500,000
$397,066,000

8 Garfield: The Movie $7,000,000
$55,770,000

9 Two Brothers $6,210,000
$6,210,000

10 The Stepford Wives $5,200,000
$49,005,000

The Antipodean 06-27-04 12:55 PM


Originally posted by resinrats
Considering that 80 Days will make more money than Fahrenheit 9/11 and will probably turn a profit eventually worldwide & video sales, dropping Moore's movie was probably smart. Face it, the average public doesn't give a crap about moore's agenda movie. F 9/11 will hardly make a dent in any BO scales.
Tell us your next prediction, Nostradamus. ;)

Matthew Chmiel 06-27-04 02:03 PM

Wow. Was I wrong. Not just wrong, but really ****ing wrong this weekend.

Hey, at least I admit it. I seriously thought those Wayans would make $50 million this weekend. I guess all the teenagers were at Fahrenheit 9/11 this weekend. :lol:

It's nice to see Dodgeball still holding it's way. Hopefully Spider-man 2 doesn't kill it and we can see Dodgeball pass the $100 million mark. It deserves all the money it could make as it was A LOT better than Stiller's previous efforts (Envy, Stasky and Hutch, Along Came Polly, and Duplex). Same goes for The Terminal.

I'm completely shocked The Notebook made $13 million. I'm also shocked that Two Brothers made more than $5 million. But I'm sure both will drop 50% next weekend.

I predict Spider-man 2 will kill all the competition starting Wednesday. I predict at least $150 million for the first five days. ;)

jaeufraser 06-27-04 03:11 PM


Originally posted by Matthew Chmiel
Wow. Was I wrong. Not just wrong, but really ****ing wrong this weekend.

Hey, at least I admit it. I seriously thought those Wayans would make $50 million this weekend. I guess all the teenagers were at Fahrenheit 9/11 this weekend. :lol:

It's nice to see Dodgeball still holding it's way. Hopefully Spider-man 2 doesn't kill it and we can see Dodgeball pass the $100 million mark. It deserves all the money it could make as it was A LOT better than Stiller's previous efforts (Envy, Stasky and Hutch, Along Came Polly, and Duplex). Same goes for The Terminal.

I'm completely shocked The Notebook made $13 million. I'm also shocked that Two Brothers made more than $5 million. But I'm sure both will drop 50% next weekend.

I predict Spider-man 2 will kill all the competition starting Wednesday. I predict at least $150 million for the first five days. ;)


Well I won't argue you on that Spiderman prediction. That movie is going to make bank and a half come wednesday. I'll be happily contributing my money too.

F 9/11...impressive. It'll be interesting to see how it holds. Many will see it out of the curiosity factor, but curiosity isn't what makes a movie last in the long run. We'll see if Moore fans and liberals can keep this movie alive for a long time.

matome 06-27-04 03:41 PM

Well Fahrenheit dropped on Saturday...never a good sign. Spidey will squish all next weekend.

Matthew Chmiel 06-27-04 03:45 PM


Well Fahrenheit dropped on Saturday...never a good sign.
Most films this year have dropped a bit on Saturdays. Don't know why exactly, but I'm guessing with everyone rushing out to see it opening day.

Yeah, Spidey is going to basically eliminate every movie that comes out for a good week or two. I, Robot will bascially be Spidey's The Day After Tomorrow (big blockbuster that opens shortly after a gigantic blockbuster... Shrek 2). ;)

matome 06-27-04 03:49 PM

Shrek 2 is at $400 mil and it's still taking in $10 mil a weekend. -eek- This has a very good shot at passing Star Wars Ep. 1 and E.T.

Jepthah 06-27-04 03:50 PM


Originally posted by matome
Well Fahrenheit dropped on Saturday...never a good sign. Spidey will squish all next weekend.
Know how much it dropped (according to MCN)?

4%.

That's F-O-U-R percentage points.

That's unreal. Sunday's gross will probably be higher than Friday's.

gcribbs 06-27-04 03:54 PM


Originally posted by Jepthah
Know how much it dropped (according to MCN)?

4%.

That's F-O-U-R percentage points.

That's unreal. Sunday's gross will probably be higher than Friday's.

No actually Sunday dropped another 25.6% from the Saturday numbers.

jaeufraser 06-27-04 04:10 PM


Originally posted by Matthew Chmiel
Most films this year have dropped a bit on Saturdays. Don't know why exactly, but I'm guessing with everyone rushing out to see it opening day.

Yeah, Spidey is going to basically eliminate every movie that comes out for a good week or two. I, Robot will bascially be Spidey's The Day After Tomorrow (big blockbuster that opens shortly after a gigantic blockbuster... Shrek 2). ;)

Yes, but most films that have dropped on saturday have also gone on to be films that don't have legs. That saturday drop indicates high upfront interest, but doesn't bode well for long term returns. Remember, the movie's with legs (really at this point Shrek 2 is the only good example) made much more on saturday.

Still, what does it matter. 22 million and number one for a flim like this is remarkable.

matome 06-28-04 08:08 AM

Um, no. Most movies INCREASE on Saturday (usually with double-digit percentages), with Sunday being the lowest day of the weekend, since people go back to work.


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