Okay . . . you completely missed the point of my post.

I wanted to know what he thought the answers to these questions were, because I was trying to see how acurately came across to people who hadn't read the book (something that I can't gauge on my own since I have read it).

I agree that stuff had to be cut (although, I think they could have filled in a few more gaps in this one), I was just curious to see well it worked (in terms of accuracy) to the crowd who doesn't know the story.

To start I thought this was hands down the best Harry Potter movie. It really brought the world alive, and really made it a fun, good looking movie. Now, I've never read the books but I'll take a stab at your questions.

1) who made the map, well by watching the movie those guys moody and whatever their names were. But within the context of the movie, I can't imagine how explaining WHO they were would've really helped the plot. All you get is a telling of the names of who made the map, which is sufficient for this movie, and a good setup for whatever back story there supposedly is.

2) Buckbeak was going to be put to death because of the incident regarding Malfois. He spoke to his father, shit ensued. That's how i understood it.

3) the stag...not a clue...that's Harry's patronus. There is no explanation why it is shaped liek a stag, but quite frankly I wasn't even thinking about its shape until other people started talking about it's supposed meaning.

The Stag is cause of Harry Father, which I am assuming will be revealed in later movies as to with more detail than I am willing to go into now

You will understand the friendship that potters parents had with two people that are not close to potter. Lupin and Sirius. You will understand how close they were and you will also explain how lupin knew about the map. Not to mention it would connect to the back story of snapes treatment as a kid by his father and his mother which would also help fully flesh out the final face off in the shack between snape, lupin and sirius.

It means a whole hell of a lot considering this was the connection between him thinking it was his father since that was the animal his father changed to. again, connection to the friendship.

Hey, I say worry about covering everything in the next book in the next movie. Don't try to overlap or put off for later considering the size of the books are only getting bigger putting off an explanation for the next film is the last thing they should do.


Either that or just add another 10-20 minutes to flesh it out. these films can get away with a 3 hour run time. these parts were important to this story because it would clearly explain the back story that was connected to the characters introduced to the film and the situations they are in. We need to know why snape has such distaste for potter because of the backstory.


So.. does this mean no one can complain about the special editions of star wars anymore?

Okay, fair enough to say that, but we're not talking about the books, we're talking about the movies.

What you really mean is she's hot now, but you're afraid to admit it in public because of her age.



I loved the movie. I liked the "Stink Bomb Store" gag, simply because I was one of the few who saw it. Did you?

Question about Quidditch:

What kind of game is it, when the whole contest is rendered pointless if one guy catches the little flying thing? Why would the rest of the team bother doing anything? No, I've never read the books, so I only understand what little makes sense from the movies. This seems to be one VERY poorly conceived game!

The other people aren't completely pointless:



But in general, yes I agree. I've felt this way since day one.

I agree that the rules of the game place way too much importance on that one player trying to catch that one ball, but you're wrong that the rest of the game is irrelevant. The other players have the chance to rack up a LOT of points, and if your team is more than 150 points down, catching the snitch means you automatically lose.

Anyone feel a extended edition will come out on dvd? Some people say things are missing, I say WB are taking a cue from the LOTR ring films, and doing threatical and extended on dvd.

Spoiler tags are kind of pointless if you don't give a clue as to what you're spoiling. Having read and seen "Prisoner of Azkaban," I clicked on these.

Thanks much.

Oh, for those who haven't clicked on the above posts, they're spoilers for both "Goblet of Fire" and "Order of the Phoenix."

Not to mention that in the movies, they only always show ONE game. In the books, it's a whole tournament with each house going after the others and the scores are cumulative.

It's amazing the next Potter film Goblets of fire is out next year, they really are filming them quick, probabley not seen until the days of Connery's Bond films.

Let just hope that the kids stay on board for all of the movies....

Ack... sorry.

I actually thought carefully about whether to put that it was a spoiler for GoF or not. I decided that most people would probably assume from context that it wasn't something from books/movies 1-3 (since the poster I was replying to had already seen the first 3 movies), and that stating which book it was a spoiler for basically gave away the spoiler.

I apologise, but at least you can rest assured that there are plenty more surprises left in books 4 and 5. Go and read them already

Yeah, I actually like them a bit older and taller, i don't think they need to follow their ages in the book so rightly, the movies have already included what they wanted to, it would be kinda of weird to recast them, say for the last 3 films.

I don't see why the age issue is coming up again. The kids are suppose to age. at this point it's understandable that they go through growth. They look exactly like they should in the book. the ages still look followed easily.

1. Lupin knew how to use the map, and there were four mapmakers, so was it Lupin, Pettigrew, Black, and James Potter?

2. Malfoy talked to his father, we have seen Draco's father's influence in previous films, so I assume he had the power to pull some strings and get the higher-ups to pronounce the sentence.

3. Admittedly, I'm not 100% on this one. Harry said he saw his father, so as the other characters could be animals, could James Potter become a stag? In any case, James Potter's spirit appeared to Harry in stag form (these are based on children's books, not science manuals).

How'd I do, teach?

correct on all points

1. the mapmakers were Mooney (Lupin), Prongs (J. Potter), Wormtail (Pettigrew), and Padfoot (Sirius)

2. that malfoy ....

3. James and Sirius both became animagi to control Lupin when he became a werewolf so that they could pal around together at night ... thus they became large animals. Sirius a dog and James a stag.

From Entertainment Weekly:

Best part of seeing HP3 was the previews....Catwomen played :-( At the end of the trailer I gave out a LOUD BOOOOOO, man the response was beautiful. Other people were like "Damn right", "that's right!", "Thank you" and a few claps....all and all it felt great!

Just got back from this. Thought it was terrific, much better than the first two. I hope that trend continues.

A couple of things that I noticed about the film. There were at least two nods to other films that I picked out. Could be wrong, but I thought I'd at least share them to see if anyone else noticed. I'll be as general as possible to avoid spoiling anything.

The first was in a transition between summer and fall with the Whomping Willow. The first leaf falls to the ground, then the rest follow in a comical manner. Monty Python and the Holy Grail? Maybe?

The other was when Harry was playing in the Quiddich match. He flies into the clouds and sees something. The composition of the shot made me immediately think of a similar shot in Superman. Did anyone else pick up on these or am I reading too much into them?

You may be reading too much into them or pulling images from previous works you yourself enjoyed.

Nicely done. Maybe it was more obvious than I thought (although jaeufraser's answers still make me wonder).

But, I have to say, after reading some of Jack's replies, I'm growing more and more to believe that an extra 10-30 minutes of content could have cleared up a whole lot. Not essential things, but stuff that would have made the film a little more robust and fulfilling (especially to fans of the books). None of the answers to those questions (or many others) would have even been at all vague and the characters and their relationships would be a little bit better understood.

I guess it's sort of like I felt with the FOTR theatrical release versus the EE. The theatrical was fantastic, but those extra little tidbits here and there to flesh out some of the smaller details of the story made the EE just that much better.

I just wish they would have touched more on the older characters relationships. to find out how snape was treated would have brought a new light to his character and to james potter character. It would have also made the shack showdown even more impactful.

good flick, but could have been even better with a few extra minutes. Hell it could have been explained during one of lupin's extra teaching moments.