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Old 06-11-04 | 12:44 AM
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well.. "the movie I watched" ended with a freeze frame. then it went to black and the credits rolled in with a graphic layout of the map followed by two words "mischief manage".

Then in your opinion 90% of people leave before any film is ever over since in many previous threads about closing credits, people don't stick around. It's nice graphics, but it is not part of the story. The story ended with a freeze frame. While reading a book, is the book not over when you reach the last page? or does every story end with "copyright _____". The last frame of the story was a freeze frame.
Old 06-11-04 | 01:58 AM
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Originally posted by Terps54423

I'll spoiler this just in case anyone would like to read PoA after seeing the movie.
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But for me, reading "I, Sirius Black, Harry Potter's godfather, hereby give him permission to visit Hogsmeade on weekends" was awesome and brought a big smile to my face.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that! See that was one of the great moments that were missing in the movie. Little things like that made you really like
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Sirius more rather than just not being the bad guy. He just didn't have much screen time to redeem himself.
Old 06-11-04 | 02:24 AM
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Nope, you're wrong. It's the end of the narrative... but the film still went on for, what, another 7 minutes or so? It's true.
You know, to me is sounds as if you are arguing simply for the sake of arguing. You (and everyone) knew exactly what Jack meant when he first mentioned the freeze-frame. There was nothing ambiguous about the wording of his post. If you disagree with his opinion, that's fine. But to assert that he doesn't know what he is talking about is just silly, and does nothing to further the debate/discussion.

Personally, I found the freeze-frame rather pedestrian. It has been done before, and doesn't demonstrate any remarkable style or cleverness on the part of the director.
Old 06-11-04 | 02:33 AM
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Originally posted by Terps54423
I'll spoiler this just in case anyone would like to read PoA after seeing the movie.
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But for me, reading "I, Sirius Black, Harry Potter's godfather, hereby give him permission to visit Hogsmeade on weekends" was awesome and brought a big smile to my face.
And this is the perfect example of how a vital plot point was omitted, that has direct bearing on future movies.
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In GoF, they will either have to make up some lame excuse for the fact that Harry can now go to Hogsmeade, or introduce it by unnecessary exposition, or include the revelation of the letter in that film, which is already going to be crowded enough. Or worse, simply cut the Hogsmeade scenes from the movie altogether, for "pacing" reasons.

It would have been simple to include it in PoA. The story line of Harry not having permission was already fully established, so the letter would flesh it out somewhat and provide a nice resolution. And there would have been no break in the pacing at all.
Old 06-11-04 | 02:49 AM
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I agree with robo on the two above post.

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Having the letter signed
would have been another plot point that had a conclusion. A lot of details were left out or left hanging. I mentioned buckbeaks trail, or even set up that there was going to be one. but also the letter. they set it up and they didn't resolve it. Could have been even better with an extra 10-20.
Old 06-11-04 | 12:48 PM
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This might be in the next one but they also didn't tie the whole beginning together. The fact that everyone was involved in the Potter's tragedy and Hagrid was using Sirius's
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at the beginning really ties everything together nicely. It is one of the lesser complaints and not "necessary" to the essential plot but still could have been done with a quick expository flashback.
Old 06-12-04 | 12:21 PM
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ive not read any of the books, and i only saw the first 2 movies on DVD, but after going to see this one today, im really considering purchasing ALL the books heh , hope they r worth it!
Old 06-12-04 | 01:40 PM
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Here is a great video article from Dateline NBC, on the making of Buckbeak.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5182794/
Old 06-12-04 | 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by n0fear88
ive not read any of the books, and i only saw the first 2 movies on DVD, but after going to see this one today, im really considering purchasing ALL the books heh , hope they r worth it!
They are very fun books ... much better than the movies. Good luck with them!
Old 06-12-04 | 11:37 PM
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Originally posted by n0fear88
ive not read any of the books, and i only saw the first 2 movies on DVD, but after going to see this one today, im really considering purchasing ALL the books heh , hope they r worth it!
The series (books) is great and imaginative. The last Three (PoA, GoF, OotP) are particularly execellent IMHO.
Old 06-12-04 | 11:59 PM
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Well saw it this week and I must my wife and I were a bit disappointed due to the fact that it was the most unfaithful of all the movies. We are big fans of the books
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Leaving out the Quidditch matches (at least explaining that Gryffindor wins the cup), not allowing the students into The Three Broomsticks, or even having the Firebolt confiscated all added to the tension in the book. We also thought that not explaining the origin of the Marauders Map, even though Lupin seemed to know of it was a big Omission.

However, we both agree that it is the best made of the three films. Definately my favorite film of the series so far. Columbus did an OK job with the first 2 films but Cuaron outclassed him with the style he used for PoA.
I know this seems far fetched, but does anyone think there will be an Extended cut for PoA ala LOTR, simply because so much was left out of the movie?
Old 06-13-04 | 12:03 AM
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cruzness:

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The marauder's map wasn't explained until Book 4
Old 06-13-04 | 01:10 AM
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I know this seems far fetched, but does anyone think there will be an Extended cut for PoA ala LOTR, simply because so much was left out of the movie?
I would like this as well. I sure hope they consider it, though, because "not enough" was my only complaint about PoA!
Old 06-13-04 | 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by Groucho
cruzness:

Spoiler:
The marauder's map wasn't explained until Book 4
If you are talking about who made it, then it is in book 3.
Old 06-13-04 | 12:11 PM
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I would like this as well. I sure hope they consider it, though, because "not enough" was my only complaint about PoA!

Yeah, you would figure that with the huge reaction towards LOTR EE's that WB would want to try to follow it. One can hope, but it doesn't look likely.
Old 06-13-04 | 12:54 PM
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Yeah, you would figure that with the huge reaction towards LOTR EE's that WB would want to try to follow it. One can hope, but it doesn't look likely.
Didn't Columbus say when the first HP movie was released that he'd like to go back and release extended cuts later on?
Old 06-13-04 | 12:56 PM
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Hmm, don't know. But going off what was said about this last movie, all the cutting was made before filming started so you really can't go back and put in scenes that were never filmed.
Old 06-13-04 | 01:56 PM
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There is at least one scene that I know of which was filmed and cut from Azkaban (learned this from mugglenet.com):

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More dealing with Sirius breaking into Hogwart's; the scene takes place before the scene when all the kids are sleeping on the floor.


So if there's this scene, I'd imagine there might be a few more, and that's better than nothing! In the same interview, there IS mention of Columbus wanting to do an extended cut--but that only applies to the movies he directed, I believe. Of course, if both of his movies get an extended DVD, I'd imagine WB would do an extended PoA as well. (And if they're smart, they'll plan for extended versions of the future movies, since the stories are getting longer and longer.)

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'Harry Potter' Loses Potency Atop U.S. Box Office
Sunday June 13 2:23 PM ET


Harry Potter as a devout high-schooler who gets pregnant following an unsuccessful attempt to cure her boyfriend of homosexuality, has earned $3.7 million to date. The $5 million film was released by United Artists, a unit of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc .
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/va/2004...716179500.html

Wow, this wasn't the version I saw. Maybe a spoiler for book 6?

Also, there's a scene in the trailer that I don't remember in the movie. It was Harry, Ron, and Hermione sitting around in what appeared to be the Leaky Cauldron. Harry says to them, "He was right there. He was close enough to touch" (or something to that extent). Was this cut from the movie?

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Old 06-14-04 | 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by beefjerky
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/va/2004...716179500.html

Wow, this wasn't the version I saw. Maybe a spoiler for book 6?



oops ... SAVED!
Old 06-19-04 | 11:58 PM
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WHEW, after going through the 12 pages (thus far) of this thread over a period of two days, I've got a thing or two to point out:

1. Some are mentioning that Harry thought that his Patronus was his dad, but that in actuality, it's him. I thought, through reading the book (read it a 2nd time after viewing the film) that Harry thought that it was his dad across the lake that created the Patronus, only to find out (realize thru time travel) that it's he who conjures the Patronus. Oh yeah, and the fact that it's a stag which is what his father's Patronus was (that and his nickname was Prongs).

2. It was interesting to see them cram a few scenes from the books to make for time/pacing purposes, but there's one thing that was interesting that I only noticed, again upon rereading the book. Hermione's confrontation with Malfoy. In the flick, she pulls her wand out and points it at him, takes it away, and then punches him. In the book she slaps him first, and then pulls out the wand and points it at him. I wonder why he chose to reverse these actions.

I know, the last one is an odd thing to point out, but I didn't want to repeat what was discussed over the last 12 pages. Oh, and one other thing, I saw the film having not read the book in quite some time, so I didn't spend my time wondering what was missing. Upon finishing watching the film, it definitely felt like SOMETHING was missing and/or rushed, hence my going back to reread the book. I did enjoy the film nonetheless and plan to see it again soon, now knowing what to expect and what not to expect.
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I have the first 3 books but have not read them... it seems they are crucial to understanding alot in the movies as things seem to jump around quite a bit or are not fully explained.
Main thing I didn't get is why are the dementors constantly attacking Harry ??? I understand they will take out someone who gets in the way, but on the train and quiddich match was Sirius Black somewhere nearby ? I kept waiting on an explaination why they always went after him but it never came.
And the climax in the shrieking house was very jerky.... didn't make much sense while it was happening. Alot of scenes seemed important but wasn't explained why they were important.
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There was explanation for why the Dementors always go after Harry. Lupin explained that it's because Harry has more horrible experiences in his past than anyone else, and that's what the Dementors feed on.

I can't help with the rest of your criticisms. Having read the books, I can't really know how much sense the movies would make to someone who hasn't.
Old 06-21-04 | 07:21 AM
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And the climax in the shrieking house was very jerky.... didn't make much sense while it was happening. Alot of scenes seemed important but wasn't explained why they were important.
What specifically didn't you understand?
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I saw this Saturday and thought it was fantastic. I haven't got around to reading the books, but I saw and liked the first two movies, and thought this one was MUCH better than them.

Better, more dark story as the kids get older, and I liked the new director's style much better.


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