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Old 04-18-04 | 12:02 AM
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Thank You for the welcome, I look forward to kicking all of your butts.
Old 04-18-04 | 01:52 AM
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Old 04-18-04 | 09:18 AM
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I am not getting any better at this, and I have used a higher degree of patience over the last few days than I did before.
Old 04-18-04 | 11:42 AM
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All I know is that everything I purchase, drops within 2 seconds. 8 (
Old 04-18-04 | 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by Anjanettea
All I know is that everything I purchase, drops within 2 seconds. 8 (
I suppose the solution to this is simple...any stock you're thinking of buying, short instead!
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Groucho....thank you......let's see if that solution works. The other solution is for me to post my buys to the board, so no one else will buy them. 8 )
Old 04-18-04 | 12:31 PM
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Actually, you want people to buy the same stocks you are...the more people that buy a stock, the more it goes up. Likewise, the more people that sell a stock, the more it goes down.
Old 04-18-04 | 10:32 PM
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I thought I had a winner in shorting Punisher, it was going down like crazy. Now the damn stock is up.
Old 04-18-04 | 11:26 PM
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Just before the trading halt for weekend openers, do the calculation: divide the stock's value by 2.9. The result is what the movie is expected to make for opening weekend, according to the HSX players. Because they take the opening weekend and multiply by 2.9, and readjust the stocks to match. (It's not ALWAYS 2.9, so check the calendar first.)

Punisher was somewhere around $33 at trade halt, I think, and it readjusted to above $40. That's why it went up. That's the only time that TRADERS do not make the stock prices change.

I think The Passion of the Christ adjusted from $95 or so to $282 or so.

Play with the numbers on Friday - if you divide the stock values by 2.9 and think the result is much higher than the movie will take in, do a SHORT and cross your fingers. If you think the result is lower than what the box office will be, BUY some. But do it before the trade halt. Also, if you're holding the stock already, and you think it's going to readjust way above or way below your buy price, get rid of it if that will be a negative result for you.

(edited to fix PUT mistake)

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Old 04-19-04 | 12:17 AM
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Originally posted by shill66
Just before the trading halt for weekend openers, do the calculation: divide the stock's value by 2.9. The result is what the movie is expected to make for opening weekend, according to the HSX players. Because they take the opening weekend and multiply by 2.9, and readjust the stocks to match. (It's not ALWAYS 2.9, so check the calendar first.)
Some good advice (above and below) from shill66. Let me add a few thoughts.

Generally, the multiplier is 2.9. On holiday weekends (for example, the upcoming Memorial Day weekend), they tend to use 2.5. For Wednesday opening movies, they tend to use W+Th+2.9*(Weekend). Those aren't hard and fast rules, though, so like shill 66 said -- check the calendar!

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Punisher was somewhere around $33 at trade halt, I think, and it readjusted to above $40. That's why it went up. That's the only time that TRADERS do not make the stock prices change.
The other time is delist. Movies that went wide (for HSX purposes, that means 650 screens) delist at their actual box office 4 weeks after release. Movies that didn't go wide delist at their actual box office 12 weeks after release.

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I think The Passion of the Christ adjusted from $95 or so to $282 or so.
I had that one shorted in my main port. Ouch.

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Play with the numbers on Friday - if you divide the stock values by 2.9 and think the result is much higher than the movie will take in, do a PUT and cross your fingers. If you think the result is lower than what the box office will be, BUY some. But do it before the trade halt. Also, if you're holding the stock already, and you think it's going to readjust way above or way below your buy price, get rid of it if that will be a negative result for you.
One minor correction -- where shill66 says "PUT," he means SHORT. You can also buy (or short) puts or calls, but when you do that you have to take into acount the strike price of the option as well as what you think the movie will make.
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Old 04-19-04 | 12:10 PM
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Silly newbie question...when does a stock adjust? In that I mean is it the beginning of the business day or the end of the business day according to the hsx calendar?
Old 04-19-04 | 12:15 PM
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If you mean when an opener adjusts - its Sunday afternoon. Normally.
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MrN,

Yeah, that's what I was looking for...thanks!
Old 04-19-04 | 01:09 PM
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I had that one shorted in my main port. Ouch.
Heheheh... I had 50,000 shares bought when it was about $19/share.
One minor correction -- where shill66 says "PUT," he means SHORT.
Whoops! Brainfart! Thanks, I've edited my earlier post.
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Heheheh... I had 50,000 shares bought when it was about $19/share.
In my defense, everyone was talking about a $30 million opening weekend. I figured it would be front-loaded, meaning a good chunk of that $30 million would be outside the 2.9 multiplier period, and we'd be talking about an adjust price of about $70-75.

Like I said -- ouch.
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wow, what a terrible week so far. The cash out from the weekend calls and pulls gave me a nice chump of change to get me out of the red from a terrible week before.

Sorry about that HITCH tip to sup.. man, that one back fired quickly if you didn't get in on it when it was 51.00
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I'm in. Under DVDTalk_Jocko6577. Never played before but what the heck. Thanks for puttiing this together Groucho.
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wow, what a terrible week so far. The cash out from the weekend calls and pulls gave me a nice chump of change to get me out of the red from a terrible week before.

Sorry about that HITCH tip to sup.. man, that one back fired quickly if you didn't get in on it when it was 51.00

Actually, for me, Hitchhikers Guide is the driving force behind my portfolio. In less than a week it has gone up over $14 a share.
Old 04-20-04 | 02:02 AM
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Actually, for me, Hitchhikers Guide is the driving force behind my portfolio. In less than a week it has gone up over $14 a share.
Yea Hitchhikers has earned me a pretty penny as well. Enough that I am back in the black. Woo-hoo.

Though I have a feeling it won't last.
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HITCH has earned me a good something something once it came back up.

I think that if you hold on to it long enough it will be LOTR status. I'm sure it will slowly climb and fall from now and it's release but news leaks and other things of that matter will boost it.

I'm just waiting for AVSP to come back up so I can dump that already. I put waaay to much stock in it and it has hit me for 174,000 which I hope to atleast break even on. When it dropped down it took me from being in the top 10 to around 14 or 15th. rather hard hitting.
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I just recently opened my DVD talk account, and after only three days, Pirates 3 has made me close to $250,000, although I don't think I can hold out until it is released and reaches it's full potential.
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Not really a tip, but don't forget about the free $50,000 from the one question surveys and the ad clicks...it helps bounce back on a bad day.

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