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Old 05-09-04 | 10:03 PM
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Just looked at the IMDB link. In the trivia it says that McD's will no longer sell "Super Size." I have heard this before, but does anybody know of a McD's that doesn't still have Super Size?
I heard the director interviewed on the radio and he said that McDonalds is not eliminating the Super-Size entirely...they are just not going to offer it to you (i.e. "Would you like to Super Size?")
Old 05-10-04 | 02:15 AM
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I think this whole thing, although I ultimately agree with the guy, is Bollocks. yes, the food is not good for you. but no, you will not turn grey and vomit all of the time from eating there for weeks at a time - not for real physiological reasons anyway. just ask this guy....

Old 05-10-04 | 08:46 AM
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I didn't like the film for the following reasons:

A. This guy has the intention of proving that Fast food is bad for you. This is by no means a scientific approach. No matter what, he was going to prove his point.
B. He supersized all his orders. Not everyone does this, or does it all the time.
C. He didn’t go for variety. In order to prove his point he only ordered specific value meals. The human diet needs variety.
D. He forced himself to eat 3 meals a day all supersized. That’s why he gained the weight. Would he have eaten 3 full meals a day otherwise? Why did he stuff himself full of supersized meals? That’s not normal behavior. People skip meals and they also don’t necessarily finish their value meals.

But the film is very funny. I just couldn’t get over the fact that this guy went out to prove his point, did so in a ridiculous way, and now many people are just going to think that If you eat McDonalds food you are going to get fat and sickly, that the food is toxic, and not in any way nutritious. Which is not true. Pigging out is. And that’s really what this guy did.
Old 05-10-04 | 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by mmconhea
I didn't like the film for the following reasons:

B. He supersized all his orders. Not everyone does this, or does it all the time.

D. He forced himself to eat 3 meals a day all supersized. That’s why he gained the weight. Would he have eaten 3 full meals a day otherwise? Why did he stuff himself full of supersized meals? That’s not normal behavior. People skip meals and they also don’t necessarily finish their value meals.
Wasn't one of the rules not to supersize the meal if the cashier failed to ask him? McDonald's pushes it for a reason. They know the majority of consumers will say yes without thinking.
Old 05-10-04 | 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by mmconhea
...and now many people are just going to think that If you eat McDonalds food you are going to get fat and sickly, that the food is toxic, and not in any way nutritious.
Well, other than the toxic part, isn't this kind of true? Regardless of whether or not you supersize? I know that eating McDonald's the once a week or so that I do makes me quite sickly...my stomach hurts like hell for 30 minutes after I eat there, but then again it's the cheapest place to eat by far, and I'd rather have a stomach ache and an extra DVD a month I guess.

Oh and this film is showing in Atlanta starting May 21st if anyone is interested...I'll definitely be checking it out one night.
Old 05-10-04 | 09:33 AM
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I have to admit after seeing the film, I felt really physically il and nausious and vowed to limit my fast food intake severly. It's too bad we the audience didn't see the full list of health food his girlfiend gave him after the experiment - to come down from all the McCrap food.
Old 05-10-04 | 09:34 AM
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I've eaten at McDonald's but didn't get a stomachache immediately afterwards. If I did every time, I wouldn't keep going there that's for sure. It's fine for an occasional "quick bite."

I haven't seen the film but it's my understanding that the point of the documentary isn't to roast McDonald's, but rather to comment on the eating habits of Americans in general. For example, time is spent criticizing the school lunch programs out there.
Old 05-10-04 | 09:35 AM
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When i went Mcd's this weekend they referred "super size" as "up size". I'm not sure if i could stand watching someone constantly eating that crap
Old 05-10-04 | 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by Groucho
I haven't seen the film but it's my understanding that the point of the documentary isn't to roast McDonald's, but rather to comment on the eating habits of Americans in general. For example, time is spent criticizing the school lunch programs out there.
this is the exact point Morgan is making about this film.

Secondly, the 'name the face' guesing game with the first graders is really funny.
Old 05-10-04 | 09:40 AM
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I'm not sure if i could stand watching someone constantly eating that crap
someone in the audience at the screening I was at, after Morgan threwup added "McVomit..yummy" we all laughed
Old 05-10-04 | 11:28 AM
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The guys a moron and obviously a McDonalds hater. If not, why not go to different fast food joints? I'm sure a King Sized Burger King meal is just as much food as a Super-sized McDonalds.

I sort of want to see the movie. Not to 'be informed' of the common sense fact that eating Supersized meals 3 times a day for a month will get you fat and sick, but to laugh at the moron for what he put himself through. I'll also make a point to go to McDonalds afterwards for some tasty food.

As far as McDonalds not having super-sized anymore. What's that going to stop? If someone wants to eat that much food, they will just order another batch of fries beyond the larges value meal size, probably getting more fries than they would with a Supersize fry. McDonalds sure isn't going to cut people off to keep them from ordering too much. "Sorry sir, but you're a fatass so we won't allow you to get more fries".
Old 05-10-04 | 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by resinrats
The guys a moron and obviously a McDonalds hater. If not, why not go to different fast food joints? I'm sure a King Sized Burger King meal is just as much food as a Super-sized McDonalds.
Burger King does big business too, but McDonalds is iconic.
Old 05-10-04 | 05:25 PM
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The guy makes some good points, but what cannot be ignored is the "stunting" involved in his film. The definition if documentary is REALLY STRETCHED when you make yourself the subject and then film yourself doing outlandish things. This film is more akin to a Jackass! stunt than an informative non-narrative film.
Old 05-10-04 | 06:43 PM
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Ok, whoever said all his meals were supersized, they were not. He was only asked to Supersize 9 times total (out of 90 meals.)

Also, one of the rules was to order everything from the menu at least once. He didn't exclusively get the double quarter pounder each time.

I for one am finished with fast food.
Old 05-10-04 | 07:02 PM
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Once or twice a week I get a double cheeseburger and small fries from the dollar menu (plus a can of diet coke from work). For two bucks it fills me up and I don't feel bad or sick at all.

And guess what? No matter how "healthy" you eat, you're still gonna die.
Old 05-10-04 | 07:07 PM
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Finally: some COMMON SENSE!

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Old 05-10-04 | 07:30 PM
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Now, I haven't seen the film but I watched Hot Ticket the other day and they reviewed it.

According to Leonard Maltin...
1) The meals were only supersized if he was asked by the cashier to supersize.
2) He chose McDonald's because they are the most prevalent of the fast food chains. 3) He had to order everthing on the menu at least once.

I wouldn't say he is a McDonalds hater because he only went there. I also would agree that he is commenting on the eating habits of Americans. It's no secret that eating fast food for every meal will make you gain weight, or that a lot of American's are overweight.

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Old 05-10-04 | 11:08 PM
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1) The meals were only supersized if he was asked by the cashier to supersize.
In every McDonalds I've ordered a value meal, they've always asked if I wanted to Supersize it. I'm betting that whenever he ordered a meal, it was supersized.
Old 05-11-04 | 09:26 AM
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In every McDonalds I've ordered a value meal, they've always asked if I wanted to Supersize it. I'm betting that whenever he ordered a meal, it was supersized.
Originally posted by cliffzig
Ok, whoever said all his meals were supersized, they were not. He was only asked to Supersize 9 times total (out of 90 meals.)
Old 05-13-04 | 04:27 PM
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Saw it and loved it last night at the Angelika. A few points I picked up.

1) Yes, he only supersized if asked, and he was only asked 9 times out of 90 meals, 5 of them in Texas, the fattest state in the country.

2) The point of the film was a combination about how portion size and America's eating habits have led to severe health problems. Yes, there are exceptions like Don Gorske who has eaten over 19,000 Big Macs, but I think more people would react like Morgan did. One value meal contains more calories and fat than the average person needs in a day.

3) He also focused on the big food corporations and how they try to mold the minds of children with advertising, toy giveaways, sponsorship of school programs, etc. in order to create brand loyalty later in life.

4) Did you know there is sugar in a McDonald's hamburger (in the ketchup and bun I assume)? The film stated only 7 items on their menu have no sugar - sausage patties, hash browns, diet Coke, and I forget the others but the burgers were not mentioned.

5) The medical staff knew the diet would be bad for him and advised him of this, but even they were surprised by just how bad it was for him, particularly to his liver function.

I, for one, will never eat fast food again. Between this film and Fast Food Nation, you'd have to be nuts to want it.
Old 05-13-04 | 05:22 PM
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I saw this last weekend - really funny and really poignant.

After the movie I went out and ate a double quarterpounder. seriously.
Old 05-13-04 | 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by slop101
I saw this last weekend - really funny and really poignant.

After the movie I went out and ate a double quarterpounder. seriously.
you're weird .. all the movie did was make me nauseous
Old 05-14-04 | 08:28 AM
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This opens up in Ausitn today I want to check it out. I have not been to McDonalds since I read The Fast Food Nation back in 2002.
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I thought the film was at its strongest when Morgan was not being shown on his McDonald's binge. His school lunch arguments are especially compelling, for instance. Overall, I'd say it's a decent film that should be watched by a lot more people than are probably going to see this. I don't implore people to see this for the McDonald's gimmock Morgan was forced to undergo (we all know McDonald's is horrible for your health and should be eaten rarely, despite what the company may say), but on the other ideas about American eating habit he brings to the table. None of these ideas are entirely new, but it's interesting to hear them voiced nonetheless.

Originally posted by brizz
I think this whole thing, although I ultimately agree with the guy, is Bollocks. yes, the food is not good for you. but no, you will not turn grey and vomit all of the time from eating there for weeks at a time - not for real physiological reasons anyway. just ask this guy....
Different foods make different people sick. The Big Mac guy obviously has a different system at work than Morgan.

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But the Big Mac guy doesn't eat frys or drink soda.

Frys and soda (aka, liquid candy) is what's really killing us.

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