SAVED . . . no, not the sequel to The Passion
03-01-04, 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by javanut
Parodying may be a better term for it . . .
"You made me run over Jesus!" Now that's funny.
Parodying may be a better term for it . . .
"You made me run over Jesus!" Now that's funny.
03-01-04, 04:29 PM
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Hopefully Macaulay Culkin does better in this film than Party Monster....but judging by his performance in the trailer I am not counting on it. "Are you playing footsies with me?" "Wheelies."
The others look to be pretty good. I like Jena Malone for some reason.
The others look to be pretty good. I like Jena Malone for some reason.
03-01-04, 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by DodgingCars
The film seemed mean spirited to me. The characters in the film who hold on to traditional Christian beliefs are portrayed as wackos...
The film seemed mean spirited to me. The characters in the film who hold on to traditional Christian beliefs are portrayed as wackos...
I'm a practicing Catholic, but good Lord, so many teenagers have such weird ways of expression and acceptance... and extreme religion is one of them.
Yes, I meant EXTREME religion. Not in the "far from moderate" sense, but in the "COOL! AWESOME! BUZZ WORD!" sense.
Many religious-zealot teens really put the "mental" in "fundamentalism". It's no different than if they chose to be punks, or goths, or whatever. Nothing wrong with any of the teen cliques... there's just some WEIRD ones in each clique.
More power to them, if it makes them happy. Though, I expect they're all going to hell for making Christian rock sell...
03-01-04, 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by bodomnet
Crazy christians.
Crazy christians.
Though after the overzealous crowds for The Passion, I had to laugh at the following statement:
"Man, all these christians packed into an auditorium... in wiser times, they'd have released lions..."
03-01-04, 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by DonnachaOne
I think it's not that, so much as wackos with Christian beliefs.
I'm a practicing Catholic, but good Lord, so many teenagers have such weird ways of expression and acceptance... and extreme religion is one of them.
Yes, I meant EXTREME religion. Not in the "far from moderate" sense, but in the "COOL! AWESOME! BUZZ WORD!" sense.
Many religious-zealot teens really put the "mental" in "fundamentalism". It's no different than if they chose to be punks, or goths, or whatever. Nothing wrong with any of the teen cliques... there's just some WEIRD ones in each clique.
More power to them, if it makes them happy. Though, I expect they're all going to hell for making Christian rock sell...
I think it's not that, so much as wackos with Christian beliefs.
I'm a practicing Catholic, but good Lord, so many teenagers have such weird ways of expression and acceptance... and extreme religion is one of them.
Yes, I meant EXTREME religion. Not in the "far from moderate" sense, but in the "COOL! AWESOME! BUZZ WORD!" sense.
Many religious-zealot teens really put the "mental" in "fundamentalism". It's no different than if they chose to be punks, or goths, or whatever. Nothing wrong with any of the teen cliques... there's just some WEIRD ones in each clique.
More power to them, if it makes them happy. Though, I expect they're all going to hell for making Christian rock sell...
In all honesty, I probably shouldn't judge the movie too harshly by just its trailer.
03-01-04, 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by DonnachaOne
Hey now... not all of them are crazy.
Though after the overzealous crowds for The Passion, I had to laugh at the following statement:
"Man, all these christians packed into an auditorium... in wiser times, they'd have released lions..."
Hey now... not all of them are crazy.
Though after the overzealous crowds for The Passion, I had to laugh at the following statement:
"Man, all these christians packed into an auditorium... in wiser times, they'd have released lions..."
I know they arent all crazy.. just so many I see are over the top and major hypocrits
03-01-04, 07:49 PM
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I have a feeling that this will end up appealing to more mainstream and having a 'message' at the end rather than being unapologetic for their making fun of that culture.
03-01-04, 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by Trigger
I have a feeling that this will end up appealing to more mainstream and having a 'message' at the end rather than being unapologetic for their making fun of that culture.
I have a feeling that this will end up appealing to more mainstream and having a 'message' at the end rather than being unapologetic for their making fun of that culture.
That, my friend, would be quite a shame.
Perhaps it will end with Chris Rock saying, "And remember, it doesn't matter what you believe in...as long as you have a good idea." And then he will wink to the camera.
03-12-04, 09:03 PM
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Reminds me of:
The Dangerous Lives of Alter Boys
Hell it even has Jena. <3 <3
In any case, as a former Catholic school kid, I'm sold. Anything that seems to be joking about it, I'm all for it.
The Dangerous Lives of Alter Boys
Hell it even has Jena. <3 <3
In any case, as a former Catholic school kid, I'm sold. Anything that seems to be joking about it, I'm all for it.
03-12-04, 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by DodgingCars
I probably shouldn't judge the movie too harshly by just its trailer.
I probably shouldn't judge the movie too harshly by just its trailer.
I am Christian, and proud of being 'narrow' about many things (drugs, sex, language, etc.).
The trailer makes the movie look funny. Too bad that it probably will not be.
Oh, and "The Simpsons" was a forbidden show until around '95. Looking back, it is pretty silly that my parents didn't want me watching it. I don't hold it against them. But did they ever watch the show before judging it?
What are the Christian ideas behind being so strict when it comes to media (books, movies, music, television)? I never really understood that.
03-12-04, 09:55 PM
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It's the very idea of religion. to control it's followers into doing/acting the way they want them to act. Why strict on media? Because that's the purpose of religion. 
03-12-04, 10:06 PM
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The trailer had some funny moments, but it looks like the movie could be a little harsher. I'm sure they didn't want to piss off every christian out there.
03-13-04, 12:42 AM
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Now I truely am not trying to sound condescending or argumentative or anything like that, but I honestly have to wonder if you really understand Christianity when you make comments like these:
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Point 1: Hypocrisy - Let me start out by saying, yes, there are some hypocrits out there . . . I'd never be so crazy as to claim that that is not true, but you also need to understand that the ideals that Christians strive towards are just that . . . ideals. But, like everybody else, they are human too and are just as likely to trip and fall during their attempt to live up to an ideal as anyone . . . even to the point of messing up repetatively or even habitually.
Supporting certain rules and standards of living , but giving into temptation in the process is very different from pretending to support ideals, but actively practicing otherwise. Unfortunately, those two "lifestyles" can look very much alike.
Point 2: "Control" - The idea of religion is not to control its believers. When certain types, genres, etc. of media are "black listed" (so to speak) by religious groups, it is merely in an attempt to reduce temptation. Ideally, people should be able to resist on their own when they encounter temptation, but, in reality, that is far easier said than done. As such, parents, religious leaders, etc. try to remove what they consider to be negative influences in an effort to reduce that temptation.
While I personally believe that getting burned is a more effective/meaning lesson in the dangers of fire than trying to warn and reduce interaction with that fire, you certainly can't blame adults from wanting to protect kids from what they perceive as danger. Additionaly, as you get older, the consequences of of "getting burned" get far more severe (pregnancy and STD's, drug addiction, drunk driving, etc.) In those cases, it is better not to learn the hard way.
Originally posted by bodomnet
. . . just so many I see are over the top and major hypocrits . . .
. . . just so many I see are over the top and major hypocrits . . .
Originally posted by Jackskeleton
It's the very idea of religion. to control it's followers into doing/acting the way they want them to act. Why strict on media? Because that's the purpose of religion.
It's the very idea of religion. to control it's followers into doing/acting the way they want them to act. Why strict on media? Because that's the purpose of religion.
Supporting certain rules and standards of living , but giving into temptation in the process is very different from pretending to support ideals, but actively practicing otherwise. Unfortunately, those two "lifestyles" can look very much alike.
Point 2: "Control" - The idea of religion is not to control its believers. When certain types, genres, etc. of media are "black listed" (so to speak) by religious groups, it is merely in an attempt to reduce temptation. Ideally, people should be able to resist on their own when they encounter temptation, but, in reality, that is far easier said than done. As such, parents, religious leaders, etc. try to remove what they consider to be negative influences in an effort to reduce that temptation.
While I personally believe that getting burned is a more effective/meaning lesson in the dangers of fire than trying to warn and reduce interaction with that fire, you certainly can't blame adults from wanting to protect kids from what they perceive as danger. Additionaly, as you get older, the consequences of of "getting burned" get far more severe (pregnancy and STD's, drug addiction, drunk driving, etc.) In those cases, it is better not to learn the hard way.
03-13-04, 01:21 AM
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oh great, this turns into PASSIONS discussion part 2.
lets just put it that I have my views and you have yours. There is no need to wonder about me. Mind your own business about your beliefs and I will do the same.
but I honestly have to wonder if you really understand Christianity when you make comments like these
