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Old 02-12-04 | 07:39 AM
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I'm really chomping at the bit to see this film! Of course it does not open here this week....but we do get "50 First Dates" playing on 10 screens!
Old 02-13-04 | 12:09 PM
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Seeing it this weekend.
Old 02-13-04 | 04:29 PM
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If you're coming to the Century Centre Landmark, get ready for me to card ya.
Old 02-13-04 | 04:33 PM
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oh my! Aren't we being authoritarian.
Old 02-13-04 | 04:43 PM
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If you're coming to the Century Centre Landmark, get ready for me to card ya.
Gonna be working tomorrow for the noon show? Betcha I don't get carded . . .
Old 02-13-04 | 11:20 PM
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Sorry, I'm on the night train sundog and I feel highly confident that you are under 18.
Old 02-14-04 | 02:50 AM
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Saw it today. It wasn't perfect by any means but it is a very rewarding experience for cinephiles. I recognized virtually every clip except the 'girl rolling down the hill.'

On the positive side I'm glad it wasn't totally formulaic with a plot of excalating sexuality to shock the audience, though a case can be made for that. On the other hand I can't help but feel that the characters are acting as if they realize they're in a movie and some of their decisions/quirks are very contrived but cinematic. Don't know if that makes sense.

7/10


I hear Eva Green, who plays Isabelle has a part in Ridley Scott's new film, Kingdom of Heaven so it looks like she's headed for bigger and hopefully better.
Old 02-14-04 | 10:51 PM
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It was Mouchette, the girl rolling down the hill. It is a Bresson film.
Old 02-16-04 | 10:39 AM
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. . . I feel highly confident that you are under 18.
You're way off there, but I appreciate the sentiment.

As for the movie, quite enjoyable. I liked Michael Pitt a lot in Bully and he was good here. This movie probably has some of the most valuable end credits, listing the films referenced.

I agree that the movie is silly in its plot, but the exuberance of its execution more than makes up for it. There's quite a few beautiful moments here.

And I wonder why there wasn't a specific cross reference with Lolita. Eva Green pretty much mimics the first shot of Sue Lyon in Kubrick's film. Perhaps it was a rights issue.
Old 02-16-04 | 10:43 AM
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Oh, and excellent opening credits. Even the treatment of the title font seemed like a reference (to George Stevens' Giant), in my opinion . . .
Old 02-17-04 | 12:02 AM
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I saw it yesterday. The projectionist ruined the film by misframing the movie by about 10%. Parts of subtitles were cut off. I will probably write a complaint to the the theater.

Anyway I like the Dreamers. It reminds me of Last Tango in Paris and Cinema Paradiso...
Eva Green is hot. Michael Pitt's performance is quite good....
Old 02-17-04 | 12:40 AM
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Sorry Sundog, I forgot my sarcasism tag.
Old 02-17-04 | 04:54 AM
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Old 02-17-04 | 09:42 AM
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Sorry Sundog, I forgot my sarcasism tag.
oh I got the sarcasistic tone . . .
Old 02-17-04 | 04:58 PM
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Well, guess I'm the only one (so far) who didn't like this film. In fact, none of the people I went with like it either. It just didn't do anything for me.
Old 02-18-04 | 01:23 PM
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It just didn't do anything for me.
Why not?
Old 02-18-04 | 02:58 PM
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Why not?
I just didn't care for anything about it. Nothing about the film moved me at all. The acting, writing, direction, etc. Not saying it was a bad film. And I can certainly see where some would feel the opposite. I just didn't enjoy it.
Old 02-22-04 | 07:34 AM
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Ultimately, perhaps Bertollucci wanted to capture the spirit of political unrest of the late 1960's, but to do so with the 3 main characters (Matthew, Theo, Isabelle), none of whom capable of engaging the audience enough to garner any sort of empathy in their world views and plight, it was a strange, flaccid letdown by the time the credit roll.

Given its payoff, the film is just frustrating enough because there's some fun bits of the characters playing out scenes from classic cinema (interspliced with the real footage), and there's a sadness watching such immaturity on display while these 3 characters stumble around and possibly succumb to the opportunity of falling victim to even more cinematic "solutions" for the predicament they find themselves in as the climax of their days without parental supervision comes to a head.

Can't recommend it heartily (but Eva Green is one beautiful gal, she's brave to commit to this material).

I give it 2.5 stars or a grade of C+.
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To me, Michael Pitt is a real ringer for Leo DiCaprio. His physical resemblance is eerie, and his acting style (even his voice) is even more eerie.

I thought it was a very fine film. Bertolucci's imagination and creativity were in top form. While not as urgently original as "Last Tango in Paris" and not as brilliant as "The Last Emperor" or "The Conformist," I still found "The Dreamers" to be one of his better films.

I have to agree with above poster regarding immaturity of the three main characters' behavior. And it did seem like their actions were coordinated to fit a script rather than emulate natural, real life. A lot of it was rather self-conscious.

Still, when you look around and see the product that's usually out there in theatres, a film like this should be commended for at least having the ambition and vision that is usually lacking in most standard cinemplex fare.

About the NC-17 rating....I can see why it was slapped with it. This film certainly earns its NC-17. Nudity was abundant and, in a couple of scenes, fairly explicit. One of the first times I've seen actual vagina lips in a non-porno.

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Old 02-22-04 | 09:54 AM
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Michael Pitt is the "wide-eye-deer-in-the-headlights" version of Leo DiCaprio. They could easily play brothers if the right film came along. Both have eerily the same body type too.

I think I have the serious HOT for Eva Green, though...
Old 02-22-04 | 09:58 AM
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I think I have the serious HOT for Eva Green, though...
Agree! My God, she has the most magnificent breasts.
Old 02-22-04 | 10:04 AM
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Actually, her entire bod is 2die4. Plus, she's got screen presence, her face is quite enticing. She'll be appearing in a Ridley Scott film next year, Kingdom of Heaven.

Love this shot from the film.
Old 02-22-04 | 10:06 AM
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Actually, her entire bod is 2die4. Plus, she's got screen presence, her face is quite enticing. She'll be appearing in a Ridley Scott film next year, Kingdom of Heaven.

Love this shot from the film.
Agree again!

I feel like we're the only two posters in here this a.m.
Old 02-22-04 | 12:27 PM
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Given the subject matter of the film, perhaps sharing Eva with only 2 guys is sufficient, no?
Old 02-22-04 | 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by Patman
Given the subject matter of the film, perhaps sharing Eva with only 2 guys is sufficient, no?


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