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Old 12-06-03 | 08:18 PM
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Tasteless? How so? I have no problem with homosexuals, and a few of my friends are gay. But I thought Orlando Bloom incorrectly portrayed Legolas, and I found that the term "too homosexual" was the best way to describe it. We can agree to disagree there, I suppose.

But if you take a look at the previous posts, there are those who take issue with my dislike of Lord of the Rings. Anyway, stick to the main topic at hand, please. I'd rather not try to explain myself to a bunch of people over the Internet that I don't even know.
How about the term "too feminine"? I don't have any homosexual friends but I wouldn't use the term to describe anybody because homosexual people don't all act the same way.
Old 12-06-03 | 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by Groucho
Look, somebody who doesn't have a problem with gays and has lots of gay friends wouldn't post something like "Legolas is too homosexual." If you want people to take you seriously, you should avoid slurs of that nature. Also, you should refrain from reviewing films you haven't seen. That's all people are trying to say.
Point acknowledged. I admit I'm not that great when it comes to expressing my thoughts well to complete strangers on a message board, but I'm trying. Perhaps I should have used the word I really meant, which was, "effeminate"?

And I'm just giving my opinion on Troy based upon the trailer. My thread title is perhaps misleading, so I don't appear to be able to have the power to change it. But I repeat that I am in no way actually "reviewing" or offering my final judgment on Troy at this point in time.

Thanks for editing your post, I appreciate it.

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Old 12-06-03 | 08:23 PM
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How about the term "too feminine"? I don't have any homosexual friends but I wouldn't use the term to describe anybody because homosexual people don't all act the same way.
Ah, I just suggested that. Thanks for bringing the point up. I will edit my original post to reflect this change in word choice. And you're right: the gay friends that I have don't all act "effeminate", but I just used the term "homosexual" incorrectly to describe my feelings toward Bloom's performance.
Old 12-06-03 | 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by metaridley
Groucho, stop threadcrapping.
Tiem to use the little link in the bottom right hand corner.

No one treats Groucho like that and gets away with it...
Old 12-06-03 | 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by metaridley
I exaggerated on purpose, to show how ridiculous it was to attack someone because I thought Bloom looked homosexual in LOTR. If you think that's "harsh in tone" when my comments had nothing to do with anybody except an actor that no one here even knows personally, then you have some sensitivity issues. Grow up and leave the childish insults for another thread.

I haven't liked Last Samurai's trailers, but I might like the movie. This is a thread about the discussion of how Troy looks from its trailer, nothing more. If you can't handle that, feel free not to post in it.
You seem to be the one that cannot take others opinion
You start the thread calling some actors others like "homosexual" and expect to be taken seriously
then someone says that where you live there must not be pretty women and you are quickly to scream WTF STOP INSULTING ME DID I MURDER YOUR FAMILY?

lol get a grip
Old 12-06-03 | 08:50 PM
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Tiem to use the little link in the bottom right hand corner.

No one treats Groucho like that and gets away with it...
I hope you're joking, since this is my thread, and I have stayed on topic this entire time, except when replying to insults such as the one below:

You seem to be the one that cannot take others opinion
You start the thread calling some actors others like "homosexual" and expect to be taken seriously
then someone says that where you live there must not be pretty women and you are quickly to scream WTF STOP INSULTING ME DID I MURDER YOUR FAMILY?
lol get a grip
So, I guess I have to shut up unless I agree with your opinion? I can't say anything bad about actors that others like? Anything else you think I shouldn't be allowed to say, Stalin?

Man, I guess you haven't heard of sarcasm. I was attempting to show that you're being nonsensical with your comments that are neither on-topic nor useful in the slightest.

Are you done? Good. Now, one more post that's out of line and I'll report you as well. I don't take kindly to people wasting my time by trying to hijack my threads which I attempt to obtain information out of. Unlike you, I dislike wasting my time bashing people over the Internet.
Old 12-06-03 | 09:15 PM
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wow all this because of a teaser trailer, personally I hope its awesome, and have been looking forward to it since I read about it, I have been craving a sword and sandel movie since gladiator, and as far as it not be historical or whatever, I don't really care how over the top or exagerated anything ends up being since its based on myth
Old 12-06-03 | 09:18 PM
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I certainly *hope* the movie is good, I just don't think it will be from the teaser trailer. But yeah, it's pretty ridiculous that so many people over-reacted to a simple inquiry, isn't it?
Old 12-06-03 | 09:46 PM
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If you guys would like to get in some good acting in advance, go rent "Helen of Troy". It was a 4 hour miniseries on CBS. Outstanding acting and cinematography as well. I believe it was given a Highly Rated from this site. If were lucky, Troy will be able to match the quality of this film.
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Removed pointless post - please do not threadcrap. -Blake

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Old 12-06-03 | 10:30 PM
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If you guys would like to get in some good acting in advance, go rent "Helen of Troy". It was a 4 hour miniseries on CBS. Outstanding acting and cinematography as well. I believe it was given a Highly Rated from this site. If were lucky, Troy will be able to match the quality of this film.
I remember seeing this mini-series advertised. I'll try to see if I can check it out, and perhaps gain a perspective of what to expect.

And RyoHazuki7, or whatever your name is, stop threadcrapping with your unbelievably lame pics. If you don't like it, don't post here. In the meantime, care to give me a thread you've created so I can go and hijack it?
Old 12-06-03 | 10:42 PM
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My friend knows the guy playing Patroclus in Troy.

Ummm, from the trailer, I've gathered that this movie seems like it'll be entertaining, and everyone was beautiful back during the Greek times.
Old 12-06-03 | 11:01 PM
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Ha ha, good times.
Old 12-06-03 | 11:03 PM
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Metaridley- Welcome to the 21st century where men have become so consfused and politically correct they view "Homosexual" as a slur now.

Now it would be different had you said **** or something else a bit more brutish but stand up for yourself. This is America, we don't have the right to be unoffended here. People can say what they want. I better not ever have anyone to check me about using the term "homosexual" it's the opposite of heterosexual and you would gotten no complaints had you said it.

Back on topic. I'm going to see Troy regardless. By the time the move plays we're going to have much better trailers at our disposal.
Old 12-06-03 | 11:06 PM
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Originally posted by metaridley I thought Orlando Bloom incorrectly portrayed Legolas, and I found that the term "too homosexual" was the best way to describe it.
Again I have to ask. For a person who "doesn't really care about LOTR", I'm guessing it's safe to assume you haven't read that books? If so, then how would you know what the right portrayal of Legolas is? Now, if you have read the books, why claim what you do about LOTR?

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Old 12-06-03 | 11:07 PM
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I've reported your undeniably immature posts to the moderators.
Whoa. mcbg1 flashback.
Old 12-06-03 | 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by metaridley
I hope you're joking, since this is my thread, and I have stayed on topic this entire time, except when replying to insults such as the one below:



So, I guess I have to shut up unless I agree with your opinion? I can't say anything bad about actors that others like? Anything else you think I shouldn't be allowed to say, Stalin?

Man, I guess you haven't heard of sarcasm. I was attempting to show that you're being nonsensical with your comments that are neither on-topic nor useful in the slightest.

Are you done? Good. Now, one more post that's out of line and I'll report you as well. I don't take kindly to people wasting my time by trying to hijack my threads which I attempt to obtain information out of. Unlike you, I dislike wasting my time bashing people over the Internet.
SOrry its just funny how you overreact, if you get so pissed for afew comments in this forums then you should leave, and you do like wasting your time bashing people since you keep replying, when this thread would be way more on topic if you just ignored
OHNO youll reportme!!! WHAT SHALL I DO

THere is no point in staying on topic since your first post was filled with made up bs and prejudice on a a story/legend you knew nothing about



I have the little music from the trailer stuck in my head
Old 12-07-03 | 02:30 AM
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Well I do like to see when someone makes an ass of themselve, than tries to pretend they have a shred of intellegence; but I'll stick to saying "PLEASE LEAVE"

And before you wet your huggies about a thread crap Ill say the trailer looks good, the movie sounds awesome and "Alexander" looks like shit.

Oh and I want to be next! Lets see you over dramatize my thread too!!
Old 12-07-03 | 04:17 AM
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Um, they found what they think was Troy more than a century ago.

Anyhow, the heros in the Iliad were more than regular men, so them being unusually good looking is fitting. Whether Pitt and Bloom can pull it off is up for debate.
I took a Greek History class a couple years ago. Awesome class (mostly bc of the prof), but anyway:
On finding Troy, they did, many years ago. at least what they believe is The Troy of myth. in modern day Turkey. plus, it seems to have been laid to waste fairly quickly, indicating that the 'myths' do have truth in them.

there was a Trojan War. estimated c. 1250 BC. the Greeks laid siege to Troy. they sailed across the Aegean to reach it. about the number of ships, it seems accurate to me. there were armies of tens of thousands of soldiers in ancient times. (Herodotus claims the Persians sent more than 1 million people into Greece around 400 BC.) each ship didnt hold more than 200 soldiers (a high estimate), and it looks like the ship in the trailer had between 50-100. therefore, 10,000 soldiers would require 100-200 ships. 20,000 soldiers would need 200-400 ships. plus the claim about "the face that launched 1000 ships".

and Homer wrote his works c. 800 BC. but anyway, with each passing year, it seems that more aspects of the Trojan War become more factual.

as for the 2nd point, i agree. gods and heros in ancient Greece were superhuman in every way. you cant really have adam sandler playing Achilles, or Rosie ODonnell playing Helen.

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hmm I wonder how they're gonna pull this off
from the mythology I've read
all the main chars in the movie,
Paris, Hector, and Achilles all died
during the siege of Troy before
the Trojan horse ever entered this city, which I think would be the climax of the film
so how are they going to carry on a film in which all the main chars are dead?

I would suspect in the hollywood version
all the main chars will be alive during the whole horse
deal and then have a huge finally battle

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If Wolfgang Peterson keeps up his penchant for 10th rate CGI this will be ugly and cheap looking.
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If Wolfgang Peterson keeps up his penchant for 10th rate CGI this will be ugly and cheap looking.
I know what you mean. But with the insanely high budget on this movie and, as far as I can tell a large usage of some really massive sets (and I mean huge), I'm hoping it won't be too much a distraction. Of course, I don't hate CGI. No more than a matte painting and such. But that airplane crash in Wolfgang's Air Force One was...inexcuseable. So let's hope nothing like that.
Old 12-07-03 | 02:58 PM
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All right everybody, let me just set the record straight: this thread started off bad, and hasn't really improved since. I chose the wrong words to express my thoughts and made it appear like I was getting worked up (believe me, I wasn't, since nothing on the Internet makes me mad). Hey, we're all movie fans, and we can keep it at that. And let's face it: nothing's more pathetic than for us to be arguing and insulting each other over the web, right?

If you guys still want to talk about this topic, that's fine. I'm moving on and going to watch what I say next time. But try to lighten up yourselves, okay?
Old 12-07-03 | 03:42 PM
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OMG!! STFU!!!!! This is gonna be the hottest thing since From Justin To Kelly!!!! Now if only they could cast Sly Stallone in the film and life will be glorious!!!!!!!!!!........?
Old 12-07-03 | 04:17 PM
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But try to lighten up yourselves, okay?
You seem to be the person who needs to calm down.


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