#1
Except, of course, the film maker and his family (would want to buy).
Why would anyone want to buy a film about pedophiles?
Even renting the thing is pushing it.
Buying????? Not a chance!
Why would anyone want to buy a film about pedophiles?
Even renting the thing is pushing it.
Buying????? Not a chance!
#2
hmm. i guess you don't watch any documentaries about crimes or anything else like that
why buy 9/11: A Filmmamker's Story - because it is a good film and is powerful
why don't you think about all the forms of "film" before you say it is only for entertainment.
why buy 9/11: A Filmmamker's Story - because it is a good film and is powerful
why don't you think about all the forms of "film" before you say it is only for entertainment.
#3
WillieTheShakes , 11-04-03 11:29 AM
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Hey, doc, can ya prescribe something fer my leg? My knee, it keeps jerkin' all over the place, and I think it's starting to affect my mind...
#4
Dan Average , 11-04-03 11:34 AM
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#5
scarredgod , 11-04-03 11:44 AM
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i will buy it.
i also wish the documentary CHICKEN HAWK would come out on DVD. film is a powerful art form and if it is only gonna be used for "entertainment" it is a waste.
i also wish the documentary CHICKEN HAWK would come out on DVD. film is a powerful art form and if it is only gonna be used for "entertainment" it is a waste.
#7
Yakuza Bengoshi , 11-04-03 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by vegasbaby
Except, of course, the film maker and his family (would want to buy).
Films should be for entertainment ...
Why would anyone want to buy a film about pedophiles?
Even renting the thing is pushing it.
Buying????? Not a chance!
I think the line "films should be for entertainment. . . " makes the real purpose too transparent. You should have saved it for a bit later in the thread.Originally posted by vegasbaby
Except, of course, the film maker and his family (would want to buy).
Films should be for entertainment ...
Why would anyone want to buy a film about pedophiles?
Even renting the thing is pushing it.
Buying????? Not a chance!
#8
pdjennings , 11-04-03 12:24 PM
Senior Member
wow.... judgmental much?
#9
OK. I guess you guys should go out and buy it then.
I'm sure it'll have repeatability for you.
I love a good documentary like anyone, but a doc on pedophiles aint it.
I'm sure it'll have repeatability for you.
I love a good documentary like anyone, but a doc on pedophiles aint it.
#10
since I had originally posted that this film was coming out, and not anyone bothered to have anything to say about this DVD is a great (and unfortunate) example on how this DVD will be marketed and ultimately if and who will buy it:
http://dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread....ight=capturing
http://dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread....ight=capturing
#11
Yakuza Bengoshi , 11-04-03 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by Giles
since I had originally posted that this film was coming out, and not anyone bothered to have anything to say about this DVD is a great (and unfortunate) example on how this DVD will be marketed and ultimately if and who will buy it:
danol?Originally posted by Giles
since I had originally posted that this film was coming out, and not anyone bothered to have anything to say about this DVD is a great (and unfortunate) example on how this DVD will be marketed and ultimately if and who will buy it:
#12
CrumpsBrother , 11-04-03 12:49 PM
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Or were they pedophiles? THAT is what the documentary is all about! The documentary asks you to decide for yourself if the accused were pedophiles or not. I saw the documentary with a friend and we walked out with very different opinions about what "really" happened...
Any film that makes you think would have a lot of repeat playability in my book.
Any film that makes you think would have a lot of repeat playability in my book.
#14
I had never heard of this film. So, I researched it on line. The father in the family, Arnold Friedman, confessed to being a pedophile after child pornography was found in his house hidden behind the piano. This is not a film exploring truth. Its premise is not that Arnold Friedman was innocent because he was an admitted pedophile. This movie is exploitation at its worst. It is an attempt to normalize that which is perverse. I would never watch such a film, let alone purchase it.
#15
Because it's an excellent documentary.
Selectively avoiding subject matter you don't like is your business. Don't pretend you should make it anyone else's.
Selectively avoiding subject matter you don't like is your business. Don't pretend you should make it anyone else's.
#16
"Selectively avoiding subject matter you don't like is your business."
Would you purchase a documentary exploring whether blacks are naturally slaves? How about a documentary exploring whether Nazism had its good points? We all selectively avoid subject matter. That is a rational process. Only the amoral countenance anything and everything.
Would you purchase a documentary exploring whether blacks are naturally slaves? How about a documentary exploring whether Nazism had its good points? We all selectively avoid subject matter. That is a rational process. Only the amoral countenance anything and everything.
#17
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Originally posted by EPKJ
"Selectively avoiding subject matter you don't like is your business."
Would you purchase a documentary exploring whether blacks are naturally slaves?
Gathering from what I have read that what's "Addios Zio Tom"(Goodbye Uncle Tom") - [available on the just released "Mondo Cane" DVD box set] is aboutOriginally posted by EPKJ
"Selectively avoiding subject matter you don't like is your business."
Would you purchase a documentary exploring whether blacks are naturally slaves?
How about a documentary exploring whether Nazism had its good points?
Given the abundant newsreels about Nazism during WWII (a majority pro-nazi nonetheless), I am sure there are docu's on this subject.
We all selectively avoid subject matter. That is a rational process. Only the amoral countenance anything and everything.
that's what documentaries do, recall history, flaws and all,
#18
Quote:
Originally posted by EPKJ
"Selectively avoiding subject matter you don't like is your business."
Would you purchase a documentary exploring whether blacks are naturally slaves? How about a documentary exploring whether Nazism had its good points? We all selectively avoid subject matter. That is a rational process. Only the amoral countenance anything and everything.
Your analogy is completely ludicrous and based on a straw-man argument. Nice try. Originally posted by EPKJ
"Selectively avoiding subject matter you don't like is your business."
Would you purchase a documentary exploring whether blacks are naturally slaves? How about a documentary exploring whether Nazism had its good points? We all selectively avoid subject matter. That is a rational process. Only the amoral countenance anything and everything.

By chronicling the acts of Arnold Friedman, some of which are based on evidence and some on anectodes that were not made under oath (during and incredibly biased and partial trial, I might add), the filmmakers in no way condone what he did or may have done in terms of actual pedophilia.
Typically people who severely dislike a film for its subject matter, or for not just telling the audience to agree with the viewer's own subjective point of view, have this kind of faulty logic where they confuse mere documentation or portrayal with acceptance.
#19
Quote:
Originally posted by EPKJ
"Selectively avoiding subject matter you don't like is your business."
Would you purchase a documentary exploring whether blacks are naturally slaves? How about a documentary exploring whether Nazism had its good points? We all selectively avoid subject matter. That is a rational process. Only the amoral countenance anything and everything.
Who says that people are countenancing anything? Could it not simply be the ability to examine the chance that there is something redeemable in an issue/topic that you object with? Hiding from an issue doesn't make it go away, and certainly makes you less prepared to deal with it if, God forbid, you should ever encounter it face-to-faceOriginally posted by EPKJ
"Selectively avoiding subject matter you don't like is your business."
Would you purchase a documentary exploring whether blacks are naturally slaves? How about a documentary exploring whether Nazism had its good points? We all selectively avoid subject matter. That is a rational process. Only the amoral countenance anything and everything.
I don't plan on buying, or probably even watching, this movie, but that is solely out of lack of interest/priority. But if given a reason, to watch it, I certainly wouldn't shy away. I admire people who are willing to expose themselves to uncomfortable issues. It shows a sense of strength of conviction when someone can confront ideas/topics/practices/etc. that fly in the face of their beliefs.
#20
I guesss we shouldn't watch any documentaries about people wrongly convicted and put in Death Row, because they were found guilty by a court of law and deserve to die without a chance to re-examine thei facts.
The ex-governor of Illinois a few months ago pardoned about 20 people on death row, because their trials was a sham.
According to your logic, we shouldn't have watched any documentaries about those people because they were guilty. End of story.
I don't care about the movie, its not something that interests me to watch. But to dismiss it out of hand is just plainly ridicoulous. Sure I make rational decisions to watch garbage about how the Holocaust didn't happen, but everybody that has seen "Capturing the Friedmans" says it has some interesting facts about the case.
The ex-governor of Illinois a few months ago pardoned about 20 people on death row, because their trials was a sham.
According to your logic, we shouldn't have watched any documentaries about those people because they were guilty. End of story.
I don't care about the movie, its not something that interests me to watch. But to dismiss it out of hand is just plainly ridicoulous. Sure I make rational decisions to watch garbage about how the Holocaust didn't happen, but everybody that has seen "Capturing the Friedmans" says it has some interesting facts about the case.
#21
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This is not a film exploring truth.
So because of your research on the Internet, you are now the arbiter of what is the truth and what this movie is about. This is not a film exploring truth.
By your own admission, you admit you have never watched or heard about this movie. So how do you know this "film does not explore the truth'
What a ridicoulous argument!!!
#23
Fed-Ex Pope , 11-04-03 03:03 PM
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I haven't seen this film, but you can't judge it soley because of it's subject matter...I happen to think "Paradise Lost" is a riveting documentary...It's about three teenagers (at the time of the crime) accused of killing a group of little boys in a Satanic ritual. The graphic detail isn't there for gore hounds or sick perverts, but it is a pretty incredible story about our legal system and the court of public opinion...
#25
Ah yes . . . the ever wise words of Hendrik. Would that we could all be so fluid in our verbage.

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