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Old 11-04-03, 10:44 AM
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Elf vs. Matrix: a legit contest?

While I am certain Revolutions will take most of the money this weekend, Elf is a good counterprogramming maneuver. Seeing as how it is aimed primarily at kids, reviews will be irrelevent.
I expect Elf to take a healthy sum this weekend, and that Revolutions is opening tomorrow to get what it can and have a large amount by weekend's end as opposed to opening against something that could hinder its long-run numbers.
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dont' think revolutions will do the big numbers. I say around 50 total by the end of the weekend. and elf will do around 20 or 30 by the end of hte week.
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I'd say Revolutions will pull in from about 70-80 and Elf will do 30+. Neither should impact the other much as they are aimed at much different audiences, so I'd expect a big weekend at the box office.
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i don't think Revolutions will do well at the box office at all. word of mouth is just too bad so far
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Word of mouth won't effect this to a huge degree though. People have waited and wanted the ending of this series. They'll still go see it, for the most part. Kinda like 'Star Wars', the last two have really sucked, but the next is a gurantee hit, due to the fact people have invested time in watching the previous ones and have to know how it ends.
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i think it'll have a decent opening weekend......then fall off bigtime in the following weeks. Hulk was pretty hyped as well but WOM killed it. i agree this one won't be effected as much by WOM
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If Revolutions doesn't do well, what's to really worry about for it? The story's over, no more movies to be made. If the masses don't like it, screw em. The Wachowskis made what they wanted, and in all honesty, WB made a crapload of money when you count worldwide grosses.
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I bet Elf outgrosses Revolutions this weekend!
Old 11-04-03, 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by ianholm
I bet Elf outgrosses Revolutions this weekend!

While I wouldn't bet money on it, I really wouldn't be surprised with all of the negative buzz it's (Revolutions) getting. Think about it though, would the studio that made Elf be releasing opposite something that is such a potential powerhouse if it didn't think it had a legit chance?
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i don't see elf coming close to winning, but i've been wrong before so who knows
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I haven't heard a single opinion about Matrix Revolutions, nor has anyone else I know. I don't think word of mouth will have any effect, and I'd expect about 70-80 million; Elf may get 25.

It's not surprising that Elf is being released in the same weekend; it's textbook counterprogramming.
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Reloaded didnt' get a great reception, so I wouldn't be surprised if Revolutions did less business than that.

But Toad's right. There's not word of mouth out about it yet. Just bashing by geeks on the internet. In other words, 99.9% of the movie going public hasn't heard anything about it yet.
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I completely agree with you.

I didn't realize Revolutions didn't do so well though, so maybe my estimate is a little high afterall.
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Revolutions will do a worse then Reloaded, but still bring in 200+ million at the end of its run.
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Actually, early reviews are in from critics in places like "Rolling Stone" and the reviews aren't good.
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Welp, Elf is getting the better reviews of the two (Ebert's comments on Elf were funny, it's always great to hear him say "I went in expecting to absolutely hate this movie."). And is textbook counter-programming. So who knows - I think Elf will do well this weekend and have some legs to run it well through Thanksgiving weekend. Revolutions is like Return of the King, even if it sucks complete ass, people will see it, watching 2/3rd of a movie w/o an ending is just harsh, even if It isn't much of an ending

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/TheM...ions-10000557/

vs.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/Elf-10002058/

Love Actually looks pretty good as well, but has a relatively limited release.
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actaully i think geof liked revolutions better then elf.
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I think Matrix will win this weekend, but I think Elf have better legs and will be pulling in more on weekend 3 and beyond.
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The Matrix Revolutions made $24 million on opening day alone. That bodes well for the weekend.

Who's not going to see this film? Those who missed the first two. Anyone who's seen the first two is going to want to see how it ends, even if it's just to hate it.

Huge seller tonight at the multiplexes around here.
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Originally posted by PalmerJoss
I'd say Revolutions will pull in from about 70-80 and Elf will do 30+. Neither should impact the other much as they are aimed at much different audiences, so I'd expect a big weekend at the box office.
Movies don't usually take 70-80 in Oct-Nov.

Summer is huge, and there's a big push right before Christmas, when people have time off.

So nobody should expect the fall Matrix to open as well as the summer one. However, it will probably stick around in theaters for longer, rather than opening huge and flaming out in two weeks.

My guess: 40-ish for the weekend, and ultimately grossing 350.
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Well for friday it looks like the Matrix dominatrix......I mean dominated the box office.

Matrix: 16, 200, 000

Elf: 9,200,000
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Originally posted by ScandalUMD
Movies don't usually take 70-80 in Oct-Nov.
He may be couting Wednesday and Thursday in that total which would yield something in that area
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My guess: 40-ish for the weekend, and ultimately grossing 350.

isn't that pushing it a tad. I'll be surprised if it does better then 200. reloaded didn't even make 350
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Maybe the 350 is counting worldwide also. This worldwide release sure is mixing up some numbers
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And yet no matter how much money it makes the film is still a huge disappointment to fans.

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