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Giantrobo 10-24-03 12:39 PM

With all due respect to Marvel...
 
How the hell does "Man-Thing" get made before "Iron Man" or other BETTER KNOWN Marvel characters????

Info and Teaser Poster here.


http://www.nyccomicbookmuseum.org/in...s/manthing.jpg

mlemmond 10-24-03 01:42 PM

It was probably a hell of alot cheaper to make and will probaably make back it's cost and then some for them. That in turn will keep the Marvel movie machine going and get other films like Iron Man and Captain America made.

It might seem like a stupid move but remember Blade came first in this new comic book movie run and got the ball rolling.

Mutley Hyde 10-24-03 01:59 PM

I like Man-thing. :(

Not as much as Wrightson and Wein's Swamp Thing, but I still dig it. I think it could translate well to the screen.

Jason 10-24-03 02:13 PM

Man-Thing lasted, what, 11 issues?

Dr. DVD 10-24-03 03:04 PM

I always thought that Man-Thing would be a perfect comic book project for David Lynch to tackle if they wanted to get it right and not just make it some creature feature.

Captain Harlock 10-24-03 03:27 PM

As big a Marvel guy as I am I'm really thrown for a loss by this one. To me Man-Thing doesn't scream "movie". Maybe they signed a deal that had Man-Thing piggy backing on a deal of another film. "You want the Hulk, you gotta take Man-Thing too".

Quite frankly if you're going to do a lesser known comic as a movie why not Machine Man? There was a really good MM limited series back in the early 80's that would have made a pretty decent movie.

Inverse 10-24-03 03:48 PM

Popularity with the (very small) comic book audience doesn't have that big an effect on what properties Hollywood picks up. Blade got made before Spiderman, after all.

And back in the day Swamp Thing generated a couple of movies and a TV series, cheesy though they were. So swamp creatures have a bit of a track record!

JestersTear 10-24-03 04:20 PM

It's all a matter of getting the people together for the film. Iron Fist has had the green light forever, but apparently they can't get a good script, or someone that they need for the film isn't available yet.

That shouldn't stop other films from being made.

cultshock 10-24-03 04:26 PM

Lets face it, most of the major characters' rights got snapped up by the big studios (except Paramount, who got... Deathlok! :lol: ). I guess a smaller, more streamlined studio like Artisan can put together a film faster than a bloated major studio.

cheapskate 10-24-03 04:56 PM


Whoever knows fear BURNS at the touch of "The Man Thing"...
I'm surprised it hasn't been picked up as an after school special on HERPES...

:eek:

RyoHazuki 10-24-03 05:38 PM

Maybe they were looking for a vehicle for WWE superstar Chyna?

DRG 10-24-03 05:39 PM

Ahh, but think of all the fun questions you can ask the people at the theater!

"When does the Man Thing come out?"

"I'd want to see Man Thing, but would my girlfriend like it?"

"Excuse me, but how long is the Man Thing?"

Jackskeleton 10-24-03 05:51 PM

I agree with some thoughts. Chances are they were just looking for something CHEAP from Marvel to buy the rights to when the big boom of comic book movies hit. this way they can pay as little and get as much in return.

RyoHazuki 10-24-03 05:55 PM

http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/...al-Marvel1.jpg


Kinda lame looking.

cheapskate 10-24-03 06:01 PM


Originally posted by RyoHazuki7

Kinda lame looking.

I notice they don't make any mention of...

"From the director of The Lawnmower Man and Siegfried & Roy: The Magic Box"

(the poster looks like a Sci-Fi original movie)

The Antipodean 10-24-03 06:09 PM

Ten bucks says it goes straight to video.

Doctorwho 10-24-03 06:58 PM

It is going straight to video. It's been planned.

You cant tell anything by the poster though so maybe it could be a indie horror or something.

And even though man thing is a lame character iron man isn't much cooler. And I'd rather they make a bad man thing then a bad Captin' A.

I think marvel has got maybe 5 or 6 decent comics left to whore, I mean make, movies after. Then maybe DC will get it right, or image.

Daredevil, Xmen, Hulk, Spiderman, Punisher, Ghost Rider are already being made/have been made.

They still need a fantastic four, captain america, iron man, thor, silver surfer? I'd only be interested in FF and CA.

Dc still has got to make superman, the flash, shazam, and wonderwoman.

Then all comic book movies will be done and hollywood can get back to ruining books.

calhoun07 10-24-03 08:06 PM

Hey now, DC had a chance to make a good swamp creature movie with Swamp Thing and failed miserably. Let Marvel have it's shot! It can't be anyworse than Swamp Thing and certainly cannot be worse than the Fantastic Four.

Now when do we get the Inhumans movie?

Goblincat 10-24-03 08:39 PM

I'd like to see a film version of "Marvels". It would be interesting to see the whole superhero thing from the common man's perspective.

cultshock 10-24-03 08:44 PM

Aw, it could be worse. They could have bought the rights to Fin Fang Foom.

BTW, did any studio get the rights to Shang-Chi, Master of Kung Fu? That could be cool.

ckolchak 10-24-03 10:53 PM

i see no reason why Man-Thing couldn't end up being the best Marvel movie ever.
i'm not saying it will be, just that a comic books (or characters) popularity has absolutely no bearing on whether its representation in another medium will be be good or bad.
if the filmmakers have come up with a creative story and tell it in an interesting way- more power to 'em.

i'd love to see Iron Man, but i know for a fact that has a lot more going against it than Man-Thing.
for one thing, IM would be a big realease requiring much licsencing to underwrite the cost of production- in cases like that the film has to bow somewhat to the licencees - not the other way around.
there are things that can and can't be done, will and will not be done, all because it is intended to be a high profile release.
Man Thing would have the advantage of flying in under the radar of all this.
the people making it would only have to compromise in terms of budget- and a more limited budget can sometimes spur much more creativity on the part of the filmmakers .

again, i'm not saying it will.
just that theres no reason it can't be interesting, while there are many reasons cooler, higher profile characters probably won't succed.

clemente 10-24-03 10:58 PM

Wait, so it's not a sequel to the Jason Lee flick "A Guy Thing."
Damn.

Captain Harlock 10-24-03 11:01 PM


Originally posted by Doctorwho
It is going straight to video. It's been planned.

You cant tell anything by the poster though so maybe it could be a indie horror or something.

And even though man thing is a lame character iron man isn't much cooler. And I'd rather they make a bad man thing then a bad Captin' A.

I think marvel has got maybe 5 or 6 decent comics left to whore, I mean make, movies after. Then maybe DC will get it right, or image.

Daredevil, Xmen, Hulk, Spiderman, Punisher, Ghost Rider are already being made/have been made.

They still need a fantastic four, captain america, iron man, thor, silver surfer? I'd only be interested in FF and CA.

Dc still has got to make superman, the flash, shazam, and wonderwoman.

Then all comic book movies will be done and hollywood can get back to ruining books.

One DC you forgot was the Green Lantern but I don't think that will be made for quite some time. Actually there's talk of a Dr. Strange movie and production is set to begin on The Watchmen, with X-Men screenplay writer David Hayter set to direct the screenplay he's written.

I don't know, I think Iron Man has some potential. Depends on how good a script they get. Silver Surfer is a great character so that might be pretty good, supposedly there was a movie in the works before Marvel went into bankruptcy.

And in case anyone hasn't heard I saw in Cinescape that Peyton Reed is no longer directing the Fantastic Four movie. Whether he left or was forced out I have no idea. They still haven't found a replacement for him either.

Josh-da-man 10-25-03 01:45 AM

Wanna see my GIANT-SIZED MAN THING? The GLOB strikes again!

http://image.milehighcomics.com/isto...14097106.1.gif

Giantrobo 10-25-03 01:54 AM


Originally posted by Josh-da-man
Wanna see my GIANT-SIZED MAN THING? The GLOB strikes again!

http://image.milehighcomics.com/isto...14097106.1.gif



:lol:

Good one! "Giant Sized Man-Thing"

LivingINClip 10-25-03 09:20 AM

I'd like to see an Iron Man, Fantastic Four, Captain Marvel and Green Latern movie. That's it. No Man-Thing.

Jay G. 10-25-03 09:56 AM


Originally posted by LivingINClip
I'd like to see an Iron Man, Fantastic Four, Captain Marvel and Green Latern movie. That's it. No Man-Thing.
Guess what? You don't have to go see it when it comes out.

LivingINClip 10-25-03 10:01 AM

Der. Duh, Thanks.

We are discussing the movie and the choice of making it . It's an odd choice and one that most people are not going to be interested in.

And as for the person who said this was goin' direct-to-video..


Head on inside to check out the teaser poster for Artisan's Man-Thing, which is set to hit theaters August 27th, 2004. Man-Thing is directed by effects pioneer Brett Leonard and stars Jack Thompson and Rawiri Paratene
For a detailed thing on the movie..

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/ind...plate=newsfull

Giantrobo 10-25-03 11:32 AM

Let me also say that I'm not saying Man-Thing shouldn't be made. It just seems like an pretty obscure character to do. I've known about Man-Thing since the 70's but most people have no idea who he is. In fact, although I've heard of him I've never read a Swamp-Thing comic.

I bet the first critiques will throw in lame ass Swamp Thing comparisons. :lol:

Tom Campbell 10-25-03 12:11 PM

Marvel made a bulk deal with Artisan, so Artisan has the rights to a number of both Marvel's higher profile characters (like Captain America, if I'm remembering correctly) and lower-profile ones (like Man Thing and Iron Fist). I believe the marketing strategy is that some will go to theaters and some will be made specifically for the direct-to-video market (which has become more lucrative with the success of the DVD format).

Given that, I don't have a particularly big problem with them doing Man Thing, though everything I've read suggests it will be far different from the comic book version.

calhoun07 10-25-03 12:58 PM


Originally posted by Tom Campbell
Given that, I don't have a particularly big problem with them doing Man Thing, though everything I've read suggests it will be far different from the comic book version.
Which is a good or bad thing? I can see this as potentially good, since the comic book really was never that good. If they give it an Alan Moore's Swamp Thing feel to it, then that would be very cool indeed.

As for if people will be interested in seeing it, sure? Why not? It's not as if people are going to go, "Man Thing?? That's that comic book from the 70's I never read!" Uh, no, they won't because they never heard of Man Thing! If Artisan markets this right and doesn't target the fan boy base, then they could pull in some numbers. However, I think it may not get the numbers because it doesn't have a big name attatched to it, so they are relying on the success of past Marvel movies, which could be a mistake, as there is no reason to market this as a Marvel movie. I saw Blade not having any idea it was a Mavel movie, and only found out after the fact that it was based on a comic book character I never heard of. At best, it could be a fan favorite like Mystery Men, but at the worst, I still say it could never be any worse than anything Marvel made for movies back in the 70's. Never. But right now I don't see how they could market it any differently than as a Marvel movie, targeting a finicky fan base, and if they don't like it, and the word on the street is negative, then there may be no new viewers checking this out. I guess time will tell.

DRG 10-26-03 03:25 AM

If they make this a straight horror movie it stands a chance, but if they make it "superhero-ey" like the Swamp Thing movie... no way.

Krug 10-26-03 09:30 AM

I can imagine Marvel telling the Artisan guys. "You can have the rights to Iron-Man, but first... you have to make a movie about.... Man Thing."

I think it'll do decently, as the Fangoria fans will be all over it.

Eric F 10-26-03 12:51 PM

DC's Vertigo line is ripe for the picking. After all, Books of Magic produced two excellent films, oddly enough named Harry Potter...

Sandman or another take on Swamp Thing would be cool. I guess Sandman might be too surreal...

majorjoe23 10-26-03 01:56 PM


Originally posted by Mutley Hyde
I like Man-thing. :(


We didn't ask, you didn't have to tell.

calhoun07 10-26-03 07:01 PM


Originally posted by clemente
Wait, so it's not a sequel to the Jason Lee flick "A Guy Thing."
Damn.

Wait. I thought it was!
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/207...6446146_vl.jpg

ianholm 10-26-03 07:14 PM

:lol:

chente 10-29-03 02:47 PM

rotfl

Mutley Hyde 10-29-03 04:15 PM


Originally posted by majorjoe23
We didn't ask, you didn't have to tell.
:lol:

BlackBeauty92 10-29-03 08:16 PM

ugh, tht poster just gave me a new nightmare

good one though :)


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