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Old 10-17-03 | 08:10 PM
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Yeah, I hate running zombies. All the zombies I've encountered in real life only stumble around and moan a lot. Christ, people. . It's a friggin' movie about people coming back from the dead and walking around. Let's try not to look like complete dweebs here. Walking very slow and moaning is NOT scary anyway. You can just casually walk around the zombies and push them out of your way.
Considering that today's films are MTV-inspired quick-cut action flicks, I can understand why you think slow moving zombies would not be scary.

To a more sophisticated taste, huge quantities of slow moving zombies are most certainly scary...even terrifying. Slow moving zombies have something that the sprinters in the the trailer don't.... tension, suspense.

A zombie comes flying out of nowhere, pounces on a human and devours him... that's good for a split-second cheap startle, but that's it....and more reminiscent of slasher flicks.

But the slow, methodical, relentlessness of the shambling undead hoards generates that edge-of-the-seat feeling that is missing from today's films.
Old 10-17-03 | 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by Supreme Sean
Yeah, I hate running zombies. All the zombies I've encountered in real life only stumble around and moan a lot. Christ, people. . It's a friggin' movie about people coming back from the dead and walking around. Let's try not to look like complete dweebs here. Walking very slow and moaning is NOT scary anyway. You can just casually walk around the zombies and push them out of your way. Don Zimmer could dominate those zombies, even. The only times the zombies were even remotely frightening in the original films were when they ganged up, and surprised some poor person ( Ex: Barbara being pulled out of the house by the zombies, The white cop in Dawn Of The Dead being bitten on the leg ). Now, the running zombies that came out of nowhere in a group and tackled people in Return Of The Living Dead. Those guys WERE scary. Not as scary as Ving Rhames' biceps, but still scary.

As for Sessa17's comment. Clockers, Paid In Full, 8 Mile, and O are all DECENT movies with M-e-k-h-i P-h-i-f-e-r. Oh, and I'm 22, I think this looks entertaining, and have seen the original Romero trilogy. Enjoyable stuff. Nothing to get worked up over.
Shut off 8 mile about 20 minutes into it (a movie about kids rather than getting an education, look towards rap as there salvation, spare me), slept through 0, wanted Clockers to be good but it wasn't, & haven't seen paid in full & don't plan to. Anf I'm so sorry I don't know how to spell an actor with a weird name that I'm not even a fan fun, thank for correcting that. The topic is about a poor looking remake of one of my all-time favorite movies so I think it's understandable for somebody to get worked up over the subjuect. But you know what isn't understanable * & make one really look like a "complete dweeb". When they post a very lengthy message just whining about someone stating there opinion, & then at the ended of posting there message that they clearly got worked up enough to take the time to post there ranting message. The then tell the original person "nothing to get worked up over"

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Old 10-17-03 | 08:48 PM
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pretty bad trailer.

DOTD was an epic. This film looks like cheese galore.
Old 10-17-03 | 08:49 PM
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It's a teaser trailer, so I can't be to judgemental, but Thumbs Down!

Hideous, give me RE: Apocalypse anytime over this.
Old 10-17-03 | 09:00 PM
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I'm afraid today's audiance doesn't have time for tension or suspense.

Even if it's a slow moving zombie, if say the hero goes into a dark room, creeping slowly then Bam zombie comes out of the blind cornor it creates the same scare that a fast dashing zombie might create.

A massive crowd of zombies running at you is not the same as a slow moving horde of shambling zombies, dim witted with the basics in mind. eat fleash. You know they want to eat your fleash and the numbers themselves show that they will win. it's all about being stuck. being alone and pretty much running as much as you can, but still eating it because no matter were you go, they are there.
Old 10-17-03 | 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by sracer
Considering that today's films are MTV-inspired quick-cut action flicks, I can understand why you think slow moving zombies would not be scary.

To a more sophisticated taste, huge quantities of slow moving zombies are most certainly scary...even terrifying. Slow moving zombies have something that the sprinters in the the trailer don't.... tension, suspense.

A zombie comes flying out of nowhere, pounces on a human and devours him... that's good for a split-second cheap startle, but that's it....and more reminiscent of slasher flicks.

But the slow, methodical, relentlessness of the shambling undead hoards generates that edge-of-the-seat feeling that is missing from today's films.
An excellent example of this is the simple yet effective cinematography in Lucio Fulci's Zombie, the shot of the zombies creeping out from the jungle towards the barn, is scary. Throw in Fulci's OTT gore, the downright absure zombie-shark attack scene and you got yourself a classic.
Old 10-17-03 | 09:51 PM
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..My two cents

I have seen DOD tons of times...including midnight showings and the original release in theatres as kid. I would rather have new zombie movies then none at all to watch...if some of them make money then a guy like Romero will have more opportunity for funding a new one too. I liked 28 days..even Resident Evil to some extent. If the new Dawn of the Dead makes money...that is good for fans. Zombies running seems lame but Return of the Living Dead hordes was kinda cool . I will remain open until I see the movie-looks like they are trying to make it a lot different then the original-otherwise why would we want to see it? Remember the awful Psycho remake?I'll take a "running zombies" movie over
stupid teens in trouble with killer movies anyday.
Old 10-17-03 | 10:27 PM
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I do like the use of the Sparklehorse song. "It's a wonderful life..."
Old 10-17-03 | 10:41 PM
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I can't believe somebody just argued that they have a more "sophisticated taste" because they prefer slow-moving zombies to fast zombies. Get over yourselves, people.
Old 10-17-03 | 11:55 PM
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This will suck.

DOTD is the Citizen Kane of zombie films.

Might as well be Creed covering The Beatles. It can't be done.

And before anyone says, "you need to see it before you pass judgement", no... No I don't.
Old 10-18-03 | 12:39 AM
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Re: ..My two cents

Originally posted by IamLegend
I have seen DOD tons of times...including midnight showings and the original release in theatres as kid. I would rather have new zombie movies then none at all to watch...if some of them make money then a guy like Romero will have more opportunity for funding a new one too. I liked 28 days..even Resident Evil to some extent. If the new Dawn of the Dead makes money...that is good for fans. Zombies running seems lame but Return of the Living Dead hordes was kinda cool . I will remain open until I see the movie-looks like they are trying to make it a lot different then the original-otherwise why would we want to see it? Remember the awful Psycho remake?I'll take a "running zombies" movie over
stupid teens in trouble with killer movies anyday.
That is a common sentiment that quite a few share, however there is no facts to substantiate that hope. Scream, Urban Legend, etc. were lousy slashers and made tons of money... did that translate into funding of higher quality slasher films? No.

Night of the Living Dead90, Resident Evil, 28 Days Later, etc. haven't given producers the incentive to make a quality zombie film... the result... swill like House of the Dead and now this Dawn remake...

As long as they can pack theatres by producing crappy films, there will be no incentive to produce quality ones.
Old 10-18-03 | 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by Groucho
I can't believe somebody just argued that they have a more "sophisticated taste" because they prefer slow-moving zombies to fast zombies. Get over yourselves, people.
i would never say that, however I do think that, whether intentional or not, the slow moving zombies were almost a social commentary on your typical mall-shopper.
Old 10-18-03 | 01:26 AM
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I agree with Sracer, if the success of 28 days later hasn't pushed the studios to support Romero's work (on his fourth zombie film) then I doubt anything really will.
Old 10-18-03 | 02:07 AM
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Originally posted by Groucho
I can't believe somebody just argued that they have a more " taste" because they prefer slow-moving zombies to fast zombies. Get over yourselves, people.
I think the true test of sophistication would be if you prefer
the old way Marilyn Burns breasts slowly sway and bob when
running from Leatherface in the old TCM or the more modern and
sophisticated way Jessica Biels breasts quickly jiggle and shake
in the new TCM remake.

I can only hope everyone on the board will take the time to
discuss this very thought provoking issue as this board has
been lacking in some serious discussion on film.
Old 10-18-03 | 02:27 AM
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A friend of mine was an extra in this. When I showed him the trailer and mentioned my dislike for the fast moving zombies, he said those were the "super zombies". Apparently, some move slow like "real" zombies should and others move fast.
Old 10-18-03 | 02:34 AM
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I am so there!!!

I didn't know my man Ving was in this

Personally, I think Zombie movies should have a mix of zombie types. Some slow, others fast, some dismembered, others with all their arms and legs.

I NEVER liked the stupid clown zombies of the original Dawn. I always fealt George should of taken out the gtoofy scenes.
Old 10-18-03 | 02:37 AM
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I can't believe somebody just argued that they have a more "sophisticated taste" because they prefer slow-moving zombies to fast zombies. Get over yourselves, people.



I agree 100%. This slow zombie/fast zombie bullshit is stupid.
Old 10-18-03 | 03:07 AM
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I remember when everyone said WTF Michael Keaton as Batman?
Then everyone crying about how the sequals sucked compared to the first one . We shall see...looking forward to seeing a more complete trailer for this.
Old 10-18-03 | 09:38 AM
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I remember when everyone said WTF Michael Keaton as Batman?
Then everyone crying about how the sequals sucked compared to the first one . We shall see...looking forward to seeing a more complete trailer for this.
Well, it was relative. Just because the sequels were worse, that didn't suddenly make the original with Michael Keaton better.... it still stunk.

If this stinkeroo of a remake were called something else, then I (and most other Dawn fans) wouldn't have a problem with the film. But then again, if it were called, "Crouching Human, Hidden Zombie" we wouldn't still be discussing it. And THAT was their purpose for the film's title in the first place....to generate interest beyond what the merits of the film warranted.
Old 10-18-03 | 09:44 AM
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A friend of mine was an extra in this. When I showed him the trailer and mentioned my dislike for the fast moving zombies, he said those were the "super zombies". Apparently, some move slow like "real" zombies should and others move fast.
That's a nice compromise. It's sort of what they did in the remake of the Resident Evil videogame.
Old 10-18-03 | 09:54 AM
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Shut off 8 mile about 20 minutes into it (a movie about kids rather than getting an education, look towards rap as there salvation, spare me), slept through 0, wanted Clockers to be good but it wasn't, & haven't seen paid in full & don't plan to. Anf I'm so sorry I don't know how to spell an actor with a weird name that I'm not even a fan fun, thank for correcting that. The topic is about a poor looking remake of one of my all-time favorite movies so I think it's understandable for somebody to get worked up over the subjuect. But you know what isn't understanable * & make one really look like a "complete dweeb". When they post a very lengthy message just whining about someone stating there opinion, & then at the ended of posting there message that they clearly got worked up enough to take the time to post there ranting message. The then tell the original person "nothing to get worked up over"
My post wasn't a whine. It was a humorous rant. Hence, my topical and hilarious Don Zimmer joke ( You know it was funny ). I saw the " slow zombie " purists as acting kind of silly, and just wanted to comment on it. What did get me worked up was your bashing of Phifer. When I'm saying critical things of someone, I usually give them the respect of spelling their name correctly and doing just a little bit of research on them. An example would be, " Sessa17's reasons for not liking 8 Mile are asinine and out of touch ". But I can tell from your comments on the films I listed and the high status that you hold the original DOTD in , that we are from opposite sides of the track when it comes to what we like in films. In closing, I think it isn't dweebish to get worked up over some harsh and uninformed bashing of an actor you like, and quite dweebish to get worked up about a silly zombie movie. ( Insert smiley icons here to let reader know that the emotions behind the above post were " pleasant ", " sarcastic ", and " playful " ) Oh, wait. I don't use smiley icons. The reader will have to figure it out for himself/herself.
Old 10-18-03 | 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by sracer
Considering that today's films are MTV-inspired quick-cut action flicks, I can understand why you think slow moving zombies would not be scary.

To a more sophisticated taste, huge quantities of slow moving zombies are most certainly scary...even terrifying. Slow moving zombies have something that the sprinters in the the trailer don't.... tension, suspense.

A zombie comes flying out of nowhere, pounces on a human and devours him... that's good for a split-second cheap startle, but that's it....and more reminiscent of slasher flicks.

But the slow, methodical, relentlessness of the shambling undead hoards generates that edge-of-the-seat feeling that is missing from today's films.
I've noticed this unfortunate attitude from younger audiences as well. To many I've talked to suspense=boredom and jump scares=scary.
Old 10-18-03 | 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by sracer
To a more sophisticated taste, huge quantities of slow moving zombies are most certainly scary...even terrifying. Slow moving zombies have something that the sprinters in the the trailer don't.... tension, suspense.
Oh, please. I'm a Romero fan and that was an incredibly elitist thing to say. God forbid filmmakers have different opinions on how FANTASY CREATURES should be presented and used.
Old 10-18-03 | 02:50 PM
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What it is is that the newly dead zombies can move quickly. Their bodies haven't had time to really stiffen up. The long time dead zombies are the slower moving ones.

I can't wait, and I'm a huge fan of the original. It's my favorite horror movie of all time. This is not a remake of the original, it looks like a different version altogether. Therefore, I won't be going in with an judgements.
Old 10-18-03 | 03:28 PM
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I can't wait, and I'm a huge fan of the original. It's my favorite horror movie of all time. This is not a remake of the original, it looks like a different version altogether. Therefore, I won't be going in with an judgements.

then perhaps they should call it "Dawn of the Dead II".

I can understand a little about how the newly dead would be a bit more quicker, but it does seem like they are letting them run around in masses a bit much. with that added in, there doesn't seem much of a chance at all for the human race.


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