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Old 10-11-03 | 04:28 AM
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Not that it was some huge reference or anything, but I thought it was cool when
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Michael Parks more or less resumed his role from the From Dusk Till Dawn flicks as the Texas sheriff.
Old 10-11-03 | 08:47 AM
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Based on characters created by...

I just saw the movie last night and loved every minute of it. I'm a big Tarantino fan, so I recognized the references to his prior movies. I was, however, not completely aware of how much of the film was homage to asian classics, so thanks for the enlightenment!

I do have a question, though: In the ending credits, there is a statement something to the effect of "...based on characters created by Q & [?]..." Does anyone remember the second initial there? And to whom is it referring. I presume the "Q" referrs to "Quentin", but I don't recall the second initial.
Old 10-11-03 | 08:52 AM
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Re: Based on characters created by...

Originally posted by 120inna55


I do have a question, though: In the ending credits, there is a statement something to the effect of "...based on characters created by Q & [?]..." Does anyone remember the second initial there? And to whom is it referring. I presume the "Q" referrs to "Quentin", but I don't recall the second initial.
"Q" and "U", as in Quentin and Uma. Several years ago, they were talking and she mentioned to him this idea about a vengeful bride, and they went with it from there... (this all according to Uma on the Howard Stern show yesterday morning).
Old 10-11-03 | 08:56 AM
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Thanks. Actually I just found the answer here while you were responding:

http://www.eonline.com/Features/Feat...Bill/20Things/

"The Bride's Getting Old: The opening credits say the movie is based on "The Bride, created by Q&U." That would be Quentin and Uma, you see, who cooked up the concept of a wedding-day massacre--and the revenge that follows--on the Pulp Fiction set. That was a decade ago. In the meantime, Tarantino wrote a WWII epic (actually, three WWII epics) called Inglorious Bastards, and Uma married (and separated from) Ethan Hawke and had two kids."
Old 10-11-03 | 09:00 AM
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Am I crazy or is there a "Charlie's Angles" theme going on here too...

Bill = Charlie (rich, powerful men who control an elite special force team made up of women)
Uma, Lucy, Darryl, and Vivica = Angels
Madsen = Bosley (okay, so we don't know that much about Madsen's character yet, but this wouldn't be a stretch, so far)

Okay, so there is one more girl, but the rest is eerily similar. Reference the scene where Darryl is speaking with "Bill" from the hospital room. Total "C'sA" vibe. Especially since we never see "Bill's" face, just like "Charlie".
Old 10-11-03 | 09:02 AM
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Am I crazy or is there a "Charlie's Angles" theme going on here too...
Funny, my wife suggested the same thing.
Old 10-11-03 | 09:07 AM
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I was going to point out that the girl in the unifrom was from Battle Royale and that was why she was wearing the school uniform but seems like some has since I read this thread last night.
Old 10-11-03 | 10:03 AM
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In the movie Go-Go Yubari also stabs some guy in the groin for making advances towards her.
Actually, she disembowels him...you see his guts spill to the floor.
Old 10-11-03 | 10:07 AM
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The whole "woman is brutally attacked, recovers, and then seeks bloody vengeance" theme is from I Spit On Your Grave (and probably a million other exploitation movies too, but that's the most notorious.)
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Although I like a lot of Asian horror stuff, I've never been exposed to a lot of Kung Fu/Shaw Bros stuff. I was more excited by the psychedelic Grindhouse Release intro.

Has anyone checked out the HKFlix Kill Bill Study Guide? It has me interested in a few movies, like Master of the Flying Guillotine, Five Deadly Venoms, Game of Death and Shaolin Master Killer. What are the best versions for those of us who are region-free?

I'm also interested in the 5 dvd deal for Gordon Lui/Shaw Bros at HKFlix, how are those titles and how is the quality of those discs?
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The airplane fly-over in the trailer seems to be a riff on Wong Kar-Wei who frequently shows shots of jets comming into Hong Kong (only his aren't CGI)
Now that I've seen the movie I can confirm this is definately a riff on Chungking Express, especially the shot from street level looking straight up with the plane flying over. Only difference is we're in Tokyo not HK.
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Also, when Uma spanks the kid and sends him home to his mother, it's a riff on Kurosawa's Yojimbo.

Also, the switch to Black and White (although clumsy) seems to be a variation on the nightclub shootout that concludes Suzuki's Tokyo Drifter.

Also, the battle in the snow reminded me of the battle in the snow in Inagaki's Samurai Trilogy.

Come to think of it, Go-go's swinging thing reminded me of the guy at the begining of Part II of the Samurai Trilogy (as well as Master of the Flying G)

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Old 10-11-03 | 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by malkmuz

Has anyone checked out the HKFlix Kill Bill Study Guide? It has me interested in a few movies, like Master of the Flying Guillotine, Five Deadly Venoms, Game of Death and Shaolin Master Killer. What are the best versions for those of us who are region-free?

I'm also interested in the 5 dvd deal for Gordon Lui/Shaw Bros at HKFlix, how are those titles and how is the quality of those discs?
I'd like to know about this stuff as well. Those 5 DVDs seem like such a steal. I have almost no background in this type of movie though. I have some Jet Li and John Woo films but I don't know the first thing about the 70's and 80's kung-fu flicks. Are those 5 movies worthwhile? I don't have a region-free player so this would be a good start.
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During the anime sequence - which truly rocks - the drawing sometimes reach out to abstraction for extreme sensations. For example, one of the yakuzas was thrown into a bookshelf and his body crumpled. This looks very similar to one of the shorts in Animatrix. I haven't checked but I bet they're made by the same studio/talents.
Old 10-11-03 | 01:49 PM
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A couple more references:

"Green Hornet" masks...
Not only were the masks used but the theme song to "Green Hornet" was in the movie as well.
Old 10-11-03 | 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by Bust
Am I crazy or is there a "Charlie's Angles" theme going on here too...

Bill = Charlie (rich, powerful men who control an elite special force team made up of women)
Uma, Lucy, Darryl, and Vivica = Angels
Madsen = Bosley (okay, so we don't know that much about Madsen's character yet, but this wouldn't be a stretch, so far)

Okay, so there is one more girl, but the rest is eerily similar. Reference the scene where Darryl is speaking with "Bill" from the hospital room. Total "C'sA" vibe. Especially since we never see "Bill's" face, just like "Charlie".
If you can find the original script online, there is a big flashback sequence (which may or may not have been filmed) in which The Bride does an exposition on the whole DIVAS unit with flashy 70s colors and music. In fact, I think QT even notes that it is intended to look like a CA intro. I think that the presence of Lucy Liu and early reactions to the teaser calling it a CA rip-off might have lead him to leave it out.
Old 10-11-03 | 01:57 PM
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Also, notice that while there was a guy in the group, the squad really bares quite a resemblance to the Foxforce Five Uma describes in Pulp Fiction?
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The cartoonish violence with literal geysers of blood spurting from hacked off limbs and stumps is a nod to the Kozure Okami (Lone Wolf and Cub) series of Japanese films, or at least to the Americanized edit of two of the films, released here as Shogun Assassin.
Lone Wolf and Cub weren't the first samurai films with the blood spray. The earliest one I've seen with it was Sanjuro, but I'm sure there are earlier samurai flicks that have it.
Old 10-11-03 | 05:07 PM
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Here are a few of mine:

The car Uma takes is called "***** Wagon," "a real ***** Wagon" is what Greased Lightning is described as in Grease, and we know Tarantino is a big fan of John Travolta films.

The knife fight made me think that Mia Wallace's character played a knife expert in the pilot for Fox Force Five.

The introductions of Marcellus Wallace and Bill are very similar, in that we don't get a clear shot of them until their big reveal(Bill's is still coming)

In interviews Vivica Fox has said that the Bride's name is
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Beatrix. When fighting The Bride, O-Ren calls her a silly rabbit. Beatrix Potter created Peter Rabbit. It would make sense then that her name is Beatrix.
Old 10-11-03 | 05:19 PM
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actually i think the brides name is officially
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black mamba
thats according to screenit.com but we don't learn thats her name in this volume right.
Old 10-11-03 | 05:26 PM
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actually i think the brides name is officially
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black mamba
thats according to screenit.com but we don't learn thats her name in this volume right.
Well she's called that a few times in Vol. 1, so I don't see why they'd bleep out Black Mamba some places, and not others.
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Yeah, that was just her codename.

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Old 10-11-03 | 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by malkmuz
Although I like a lot of Asian horror stuff, I've never been exposed to a lot of Kung Fu/Shaw Bros stuff. I was more excited by the psychedelic Grindhouse Release intro.

Has anyone checked out the HKFlix Kill Bill Study Guide? It has me interested in a few movies, like Master of the Flying Guillotine, Five Deadly Venoms, Game of Death and Shaolin Master Killer. What are the best versions for those of us who are region-free?

I'm also interested in the 5 dvd deal for Gordon Lui/Shaw Bros at HKFlix, how are those titles and how is the quality of those discs?
Master of the Flying Guillotine is awesome, a must see, the R1 out now is a very good release and well worth getting. Game of Death is a horrible movie but as a film study piece it is very interesting. Total screen time of Bruce Lee in this "movie" is maybe about 20 minutes I think, it's definitely not more than 30 minutes. The final sequence where he is battling through the pagoda is awesome though, especially the nunchuk fight. HKL has a very nice version of this out. Five Deadly Venoms out now is only an english dub I believe but a new version is supposedly coming out very soon from Celestial with original language and subs. As for Shaolin Master Killer aka 36th Chamber of Shaolin the release by Celestial is very well done from the reviews I have read with original language and subs of course. The Celestial releases are R3.
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I'm pretty sure the dart Oh-Ren Ishii thorws through the paper wall at the restaurant is the exact same dart the female mole threw into the apple in "Enter the Dragon".

Even though this is minor, there seems to be a breakfast cereal theme in Tarentinos movies, the "fruit brute" in Resovior Dogs and Pulp fiction, and Black Mamba shooting through the box of fruit somethings.
Old 10-11-03 | 07:24 PM
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Here's another! In Reservior Dogs when Blondie turns on the radio in the warehouse, the first thing you hear on the radio is a spanish station singing, "Donde esta..." and then it's interrupted.

The same singing line appears right when we see "The Blood Splattered Bride".


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