View Poll Results: How did you like Kill Bill vol 2?
* terrible!
4
3.31%
** average
10
8.26%
*** good
31
25.62%
**** awesome!
72
59.50%
undecided
4
3.31%
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Kill Bill Volume 2
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03-02-04 | 06:23 PM
#152
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Originally posted by Rypro 525
Uma and Daryl Hannah do go at it in the flick right? (at least in the script)?
Uma and Daryl Hannah do go at it in the flick right? (at least in the script)?
03-09-04 | 02:54 PM
#153
Kill Bill Vol-2 (Test screening review)
Good ol' Harry has a review of it over at AIC. The site's been acting up today so if nobody can't get to it, I'll just copy/paste the review for later.
But here's some early info on some of the changes:
The Bill/Michael Jai White battle is said to have been cut out.
There's no new anime sequence.
Pai Mei is subtitled. Tarantino is not dubbing his voice.
But here's some early info on some of the changes:
The Bill/Michael Jai White battle is said to have been cut out.
There's no new anime sequence.
Pai Mei is subtitled. Tarantino is not dubbing his voice.
03-09-04 | 03:26 PM
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Re: Kill Bill Vol-2 (Test screening review)
Originally posted by Mondo Kane
But here's some early info on some of the changes:
The Bill/Michael Jai White battle is said to have been cut out.
But here's some early info on some of the changes:
The Bill/Michael Jai White battle is said to have been cut out.
There's no new anime sequence.
03-09-04 | 03:51 PM
#156
Both of those sequences were filmed
And I'm sure Quentin wouldn't want them to go to waste. Hopefully he's got a EE in mind when the big version comes to DVD.
Alright, I've tried the link and still can't get in so I'm sure most of you are going through the same. So here goes:
BlahBlahBlah
Cut to the chase
So it's more laid back and talky than the previous half. But still sounds great. I just wonder how this would've appeared had it been 1 giant film as originally planned.
And I'm sure Quentin wouldn't want them to go to waste. Hopefully he's got a EE in mind when the big version comes to DVD.
Alright, I've tried the link and still can't get in so I'm sure most of you are going through the same. So here goes:
KILL BILL VOLUME 2 Review
You ever have a day where you just need a great film?
That was me today. Last Friday I received a phone call inviting my father and I to Tarantino’s first theatrical screening of KILL BILL VOLUME 2 anywhere in the world, and it happened that it would be taking place here in Austin. That happened last night. I was, of course, overjoyed. What film geek wouldn’t be truly excited beyond words to see the first theatrical screening of an uncut Tarantino film? Not I.
So Monday morning I wake up giddy. I was going to be seeing KILL BILL VOLUME 2 today. So I go to get out of bed and because the Gods are cruel, the fates evil and the writer of my tale sadistic, my right knee decides that it will simply not lock, effectively rendering my right leg as sturdy as that of a rag doll’s. As I’m desperately trying to figure out a scenario by which I might actually get to be attending the screening tonight – the phone begins ringing. Of course – today – about 20 different crisis had to arise. The phone constantly ringing… me trying to figure out what to do. I decide that I...
You ever have a day where you just need a great film?
That was me today. Last Friday I received a phone call inviting my father and I to Tarantino’s first theatrical screening of KILL BILL VOLUME 2 anywhere in the world, and it happened that it would be taking place here in Austin. That happened last night. I was, of course, overjoyed. What film geek wouldn’t be truly excited beyond words to see the first theatrical screening of an uncut Tarantino film? Not I.
So Monday morning I wake up giddy. I was going to be seeing KILL BILL VOLUME 2 today. So I go to get out of bed and because the Gods are cruel, the fates evil and the writer of my tale sadistic, my right knee decides that it will simply not lock, effectively rendering my right leg as sturdy as that of a rag doll’s. As I’m desperately trying to figure out a scenario by which I might actually get to be attending the screening tonight – the phone begins ringing. Of course – today – about 20 different crisis had to arise. The phone constantly ringing… me trying to figure out what to do. I decide that I...
Cut to the chase
As the theater was packed, things got underway, there was a single microphone stand dead center in front of the screen. There were just under 500 people in the theater, and as Quentin took the mike, there was polite and enthusiastic applause. He simply announced that we were the first audience to see this film and that what we would be seeing would be rough… not entirely color timed with a very very temp mix… but that what we would be seeing would be a vast improvement on what it was a week ago. As he was talking, Bob and Harvey Weinstein came in, as did Richard Linklater and Robert Rodriguez and Sally Menke and assorted others.
As Quentin took his seat and the theater went dark… a hushed buzz went through the crowd. This was clearly an audience that “wanted” to see KILL BILL VOLUME 2.
The end result? As the final Q&U hit the screen and the projector turned off, the audience rose to its collective feet, turned to face Quentin and went on to applaud for 5 minutes. It was so overwhelming, that Harvey did not have the Research Firm conducting the screening pass out cards, clearly… Their work here was done.
The film is perfect as I could have ever hoped for. On my way out of the theater, Quentin asked me what my favorite moment of the film was. It was near the very end,
It is an incredibly emotional scene. Specifically – over the course of this film, you are struck with such an incredible amount of affection for David Carradine’s bastard Bill…
I found myself at that moment, honestly crying and laughing at the exact same moment, and not for crass manipulative reasons, but for earned tears and laughs. Specifically – that is such a hard thing to elicit from me in a theater… To have honest tears and laughs simultaneously is the very definition of the idealized version of entertainment for me. Something that touches you deeply and makes you laugh and enjoy yourself… That’s entertainment!
With my father, it was the scene where she first faces Bill and his armed “bodyguard” in his house. When you see the scene, you’ll get it. I wasn’t particularly surprised by his comments given current conditions with his “bodyguard” and their mutual violent adventures.
From others, I heard about 9 other “favorite moments.” In fact, I didn’t hear the same one twice. This is that sort of film. If you were turned off by the gore of the first film and found yourself wanting more of the ‘verbal” Tarantino dialogue… well, this is the film for you. It is a masterpiece. I’ve been reporting on test screenings for going on 8 years now, I’ve never heard of one with a standing ovation – it was overwhelming – like something you hear about, but never see. The film was that good.
How are the characters? Fantastic.
Michael Madsen is so f____ cool in this. If you’ve seen Charles Bronson in MAGNIFICENT SEVEN telling those kids about the strength of their fathers… or even Jon Voight in RUNAWAY TRAIN, when he tells a reckless Eric Roberts that if he gets free, if he would get down on his knees and scrub the tiniest stain off the floor with a toothbrush and follow orders and get the sort of job a con can get, he should be thankful… Well, Madsen is that man. He’s a man that has such sins that he has given up that life, finding no warmth in it. Instead, he lives in a tiny trailer in front of a magnificent view… and at night he works as a bouncer at a shithole strip club being treated like crap by people he could snap like his fingers… but he takes it. He takes it and he goes home and he plays his records and chews his tobacco knowing this is the best he can ever hope for… and wow. He’s great.
David Carradine is going to amaze people. Nobody anywhere has seen him this good. When I saw him onstage with Tarantino at Quentin’s last film festival – I knew there was the potential for magic. If you’ve seen his Wild Bill in THE LONG RIDERS – then you know that it wasn’t just stunt casting, that there was a purpose behind it. If you remember and like CIRCLE OF IRON – there are some elements here that are just taken to such a higher level… that it just isn’t even funny. Quentin does wonders with David in this film. In fact, David has several of the best monologues you’ve seen in a Quentin film here… His Peter & The Wolf style story of Pei Mei is a classic… His “Superman” monologue is also classic. I’m also particularly fond of the bit at Two Pines between him and “The Bride,” as well as the “Fish” story. David is, I imagine, the perfect portrayal of Satan in many ways. He’s charismatic as can be, eloquent, deceitful, manipulative, smooth and treacherously deadly. He’s a bastard and he knows he’s a bastard and he’s fine with that. That you will mourn his passing is a testament to Quentin’s direction and to David’s performance.
Uma Thurman is amazing. The phrase, “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned,” has never been more true than when
. She is amazing. The day she goes through beginning with her encounter with Madsen’s Budd till the end of the next chapter… WHEW! This is great stuff! Her time with Pei Mei… surprisingly affecting. In particular the relationship between Uma and Gordon Liu on screen is truly outstanding. I was surprised by the “tough love” and “respect” between the two of them. The payoffs on these scenes will elicit shrieking applause if you’re audience is anything like the one last night. Watching Uma and David together is magic. This isn’t nearly the action film of the first part, this is really getting down to the meat of the characters and their relationships.
Gordon Liu… WOW. Pei Mei is a cinematic god. For anyone that ever even briefly flirted with love for Shaw Brother’s classics… You will be blown away. So much of it is in his eyes, his gestures and yeah… even the subtitles. Pei Mei is funny as hell, cruel, but with an incredibly powerful sense of purpose.
Great work.
Daryl Hannah is such a great f____ b__ in this thing. Elle is horrible, but because she would always be second. Her patent leather shiny eye-patch is cool as hell and man is she mean. She took on all the worst qualities of Bill -- this is the Loki to Uma’s Thor. Two Nordic Goddesses fathered by Bill’s Odin. When they fight… imagine if you will the fight scene between Sean Connery and Robert Shaw in the closed quarters of that train in FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE… Now, give them the spacious environment of a white trash trailer smack dab in the desert outside Barstow – and you’ll begin to get it. This thing is an epic smack down. Right up there with Wayne and Victor MacLagen in THE QUIET MAN – this is a rumble that can be felt over seven states and when it ends… I dare you not to clap. No fancy smanchy wirework here. This fight hurts deep tissue.
The music is wonderful. At the moment, I’m a bit dazed… trying to recall it all, but like the music of the first film, this thing will spend considerable time being played in your world most likely.
What is missing? Well – you won’t see Bill’s fight with Michael Jai White which I described in detail from my China trip… I didn’t ask Quentin why he cut it out, instead, I understood. In this film it was more important that the audience like Bill, than fear his skill. Because it was more important how you feel about the end of the fight, than the anticipation of that fight. To that, it is a testament to how well Quentin understood what was truly important to the story. THAT BEING SAID, I can’t f____ wait to see that fight on the extras on a DVD!
Ok, for now, I’ll call it quits on this review. This is my favorite film of Tarantino’s… Can I say that with all my experiences with this film to the side? No, not really. I was the only person in that theater that had climbed the cruel steps of Pei Mei, so sure I’m sure that colors my view of things… but then, I was the only person in the theater that wasn’t standing and applauding for five minutes straight when it was done, but then… I was in a wheelchair.
As Quentin took his seat and the theater went dark… a hushed buzz went through the crowd. This was clearly an audience that “wanted” to see KILL BILL VOLUME 2.
The end result? As the final Q&U hit the screen and the projector turned off, the audience rose to its collective feet, turned to face Quentin and went on to applaud for 5 minutes. It was so overwhelming, that Harvey did not have the Research Firm conducting the screening pass out cards, clearly… Their work here was done.
The film is perfect as I could have ever hoped for. On my way out of the theater, Quentin asked me what my favorite moment of the film was. It was near the very end,
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
With my father, it was the scene where she first faces Bill and his armed “bodyguard” in his house. When you see the scene, you’ll get it. I wasn’t particularly surprised by his comments given current conditions with his “bodyguard” and their mutual violent adventures.
From others, I heard about 9 other “favorite moments.” In fact, I didn’t hear the same one twice. This is that sort of film. If you were turned off by the gore of the first film and found yourself wanting more of the ‘verbal” Tarantino dialogue… well, this is the film for you. It is a masterpiece. I’ve been reporting on test screenings for going on 8 years now, I’ve never heard of one with a standing ovation – it was overwhelming – like something you hear about, but never see. The film was that good.
How are the characters? Fantastic.
Michael Madsen is so f____ cool in this. If you’ve seen Charles Bronson in MAGNIFICENT SEVEN telling those kids about the strength of their fathers… or even Jon Voight in RUNAWAY TRAIN, when he tells a reckless Eric Roberts that if he gets free, if he would get down on his knees and scrub the tiniest stain off the floor with a toothbrush and follow orders and get the sort of job a con can get, he should be thankful… Well, Madsen is that man. He’s a man that has such sins that he has given up that life, finding no warmth in it. Instead, he lives in a tiny trailer in front of a magnificent view… and at night he works as a bouncer at a shithole strip club being treated like crap by people he could snap like his fingers… but he takes it. He takes it and he goes home and he plays his records and chews his tobacco knowing this is the best he can ever hope for… and wow. He’s great.
David Carradine is going to amaze people. Nobody anywhere has seen him this good. When I saw him onstage with Tarantino at Quentin’s last film festival – I knew there was the potential for magic. If you’ve seen his Wild Bill in THE LONG RIDERS – then you know that it wasn’t just stunt casting, that there was a purpose behind it. If you remember and like CIRCLE OF IRON – there are some elements here that are just taken to such a higher level… that it just isn’t even funny. Quentin does wonders with David in this film. In fact, David has several of the best monologues you’ve seen in a Quentin film here… His Peter & The Wolf style story of Pei Mei is a classic… His “Superman” monologue is also classic. I’m also particularly fond of the bit at Two Pines between him and “The Bride,” as well as the “Fish” story. David is, I imagine, the perfect portrayal of Satan in many ways. He’s charismatic as can be, eloquent, deceitful, manipulative, smooth and treacherously deadly. He’s a bastard and he knows he’s a bastard and he’s fine with that. That you will mourn his passing is a testament to Quentin’s direction and to David’s performance.
Uma Thurman is amazing. The phrase, “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned,” has never been more true than when
Spoiler:
Gordon Liu… WOW. Pei Mei is a cinematic god. For anyone that ever even briefly flirted with love for Shaw Brother’s classics… You will be blown away. So much of it is in his eyes, his gestures and yeah… even the subtitles. Pei Mei is funny as hell, cruel, but with an incredibly powerful sense of purpose.
Spoiler:
Daryl Hannah is such a great f____ b__ in this thing. Elle is horrible, but because she would always be second. Her patent leather shiny eye-patch is cool as hell and man is she mean. She took on all the worst qualities of Bill -- this is the Loki to Uma’s Thor. Two Nordic Goddesses fathered by Bill’s Odin. When they fight… imagine if you will the fight scene between Sean Connery and Robert Shaw in the closed quarters of that train in FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE… Now, give them the spacious environment of a white trash trailer smack dab in the desert outside Barstow – and you’ll begin to get it. This thing is an epic smack down. Right up there with Wayne and Victor MacLagen in THE QUIET MAN – this is a rumble that can be felt over seven states and when it ends… I dare you not to clap. No fancy smanchy wirework here. This fight hurts deep tissue.
The music is wonderful. At the moment, I’m a bit dazed… trying to recall it all, but like the music of the first film, this thing will spend considerable time being played in your world most likely.
What is missing? Well – you won’t see Bill’s fight with Michael Jai White which I described in detail from my China trip… I didn’t ask Quentin why he cut it out, instead, I understood. In this film it was more important that the audience like Bill, than fear his skill. Because it was more important how you feel about the end of the fight, than the anticipation of that fight. To that, it is a testament to how well Quentin understood what was truly important to the story. THAT BEING SAID, I can’t f____ wait to see that fight on the extras on a DVD!
Ok, for now, I’ll call it quits on this review. This is my favorite film of Tarantino’s… Can I say that with all my experiences with this film to the side? No, not really. I was the only person in that theater that had climbed the cruel steps of Pei Mei, so sure I’m sure that colors my view of things… but then, I was the only person in the theater that wasn’t standing and applauding for five minutes straight when it was done, but then… I was in a wheelchair.
Last edited by Mondo Kane; 03-09-04 at 03:57 PM.
03-09-04 | 04:20 PM
#158
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Re: Re: Kill Bill Vol-2 (Test screening review)
Originally posted by Sessa17
The Anime sequence was the only part of vol. 1 I didn't like. It completely took me out of the movie, plus I just hate Anime.
The Anime sequence was the only part of vol. 1 I didn't like. It completely took me out of the movie, plus I just hate Anime.
on both counts.
03-09-04 | 04:22 PM
#159
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Can anyone who writes into that site just give a clear and concise review of a film? Jesus, practically every review they post is a detailed breakdown of the last 5 years leading up to the actual viewing of the film.
03-09-04 | 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by FinkPish
Can anyone who writes into that site just give a clear and concise review of a film? Jesus, practically every review they post is a detailed breakdown of the last 5 years leading up to the actual viewing of the film.
Can anyone who writes into that site just give a clear and concise review of a film? Jesus, practically every review they post is a detailed breakdown of the last 5 years leading up to the actual viewing of the film.
03-09-04 | 04:55 PM
#162
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Originally posted by Sessa17
I just loathe Harry & that site for that. The only person there worth checking out is Moriarity. Harry is the worse, he is so bias it's disgusting & every single movie the guy sees is the single greatest piece of film ever created. His reviews are utterly meaningless.
I just loathe Harry & that site for that. The only person there worth checking out is Moriarity. Harry is the worse, he is so bias it's disgusting & every single movie the guy sees is the single greatest piece of film ever created. His reviews are utterly meaningless.
03-09-04 | 05:58 PM
#163
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Yeah, the "review" does seem to have alot of dross that I couldn't give a tin shit about, but from the descriptions of the film itself, I'm really getting excited about seeing this.
03-09-04 | 09:10 PM
#166
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While I wish I could take delight in that review, "Fat Harry" has more than screwed up with many high profile reviews in the past, namely Attack of the Clones and DareDevil. It's getting hard to distinguihs between a review and a shill in his case.
03-09-04 | 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by jeffkjoe
Does anyone wonder how anyone can get a career from having written for Aint-It-Cool-News?
Does anyone wonder how anyone can get a career from having written for Aint-It-Cool-News?
Now Kill Bill 2...can't wait. I do hope we get to see the cut anime and Michael Jai White scene, but I'd never second guess a decision by Tarantino to cut something out. Quite frankly, I think he's a master filmmaker. Bring this flick on...loved vol 1.
03-10-04 | 03:05 AM
#169
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to no anime sequence in this one. As a long-time anime fan I was extremely dissapointed with the piss-poor quality of the anime in Kill Bill1. Also, looking at that pic below, there is no way a 70 year old paper-thin old guy is gonna beat a ripped, big black guy, I don't care what Hollywood kung-fu you know. I'm glad this fight is cut out, maybe Tarantino figured he wanted something just a little less cartoony and fake.
03-10-04 | 03:46 AM
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Piss Poor quality of anime in the first one? 
I'm a long time anime fan and I thought it was done well. Then again it was Production IG.. and you know how they only make low budget awful crap... 
As for the fighting. Yeah, I hope Uma also beats her masters ass the first time during training since we all know a 100+ year old man can't fight back. Come on QT! Get back into reality.
Dude, this is not just your regular old paper-thin guy we are talking about, it's David Carradine, it's like saying that Sean Conory shouldn't be a ladies man.
As for Aint-it-cool. The sites been worthless for a long time now.
I'm a long time anime fan and I thought it was done well. Then again it was Production IG.. and you know how they only make low budget awful crap... As for the fighting. Yeah, I hope Uma also beats her masters ass the first time during training since we all know a 100+ year old man can't fight back. Come on QT! Get back into reality.
Dude, this is not just your regular old paper-thin guy we are talking about, it's David Carradine, it's like saying that Sean Conory shouldn't be a ladies man.
As for Aint-it-cool. The sites been worthless for a long time now.
03-10-04 | 03:53 AM
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Sounds like me a case of LOTR - hyping certain clips and then cutting them for the EE. 
I'm sure we'll see it in Tarintino's EE that he has mentioned before. Either way, bring on Vol.2!
I'm sure we'll see it in Tarintino's EE that he has mentioned before. Either way, bring on Vol.2!
03-11-04 | 08:12 PM
#172
DVD Talk Hero
Here are a couple more advance posters (this time from Japan, with that rather bizarre "Kill is Love" tagline). I'm not sure if they are full size or just the small chirashi size:
EDIT: damn linked pics wouldn't work
EDIT: damn linked pics wouldn't work
Last edited by cultshock; 03-12-04 at 12:24 AM.
03-11-04 | 08:14 PM
#173
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Sorry, the second one didn't work out right. I'll give it another shot in a bit.
03-11-04 | 08:14 PM
#174
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Originally posted by Trigger
*ahem* when you say "go at it"... what exactly do you mean?
*ahem* when you say "go at it"... what exactly do you mean?
03-11-04 | 08:16 PM
#175
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Ah crap, I guess I can't link these. Never mind. Check out impawards.com if you are curious.