I'm leaning towards the false memory theory since a lot of the posters claiming to have seen it sound like this to me:

"I absolutely 100% saw it and recorded it on VHS!"

"So can you please provide a screenshot?"

"Sorry. I loaned that tape out to my girlfriend's uncle's next-door-neighbor, and now he can't find it."

There was even a post about how FBDO was going to be shown on TBS. So how come no one saw it then under a controlled test environment? Were all these "German TV-edits" destroyed sometime around the introduction of DVD?

Someone should just TIVO it next time it's on cable. I'm sure it hits VH1/TBS/USA every month or two at least.

Yes, but in this case the "To be continued..." actually exists, and people definitely saw it on the VHS release and are simply mixing up where they saw it. But for some reason in the Ferris case people are insisting that anyone who believes they ever saw this are imagining it, though like me they have independent recollections of it.

I'm certain this scene was on the VHS copy that I previously owned. Of course I have long since disposed of all of my crappy full screen VHS movies. I now need to watch the DVD to see if the scene I remember is missing. He is sitting catanic in a chair by the pool, Sloan waves her hand in front of his face and there is no eye movement so she strips down (no nudity) and jumps in the pool.

I remember seeing this. Cameron was sitting on the very end of the diving board and then he tips off the end into the water.

That's my thought as well...

For every other movie out there like this (Fast Times, Superman 2, etc.) there are not only web sites that detail all of the cut scenes, but bootlegs are readily available of the TV version.

The fact that there are dozens of people in this thread swearing that this scene exists on VHS tapes (that they no longer have), yet no one has been able to reacquire or produce said tape in nearly 2 years is certainly suspect.

If so many people are certain that this scene existed, why is there no proof? Seems trivial to get someone with this on tape to provide screen shots and/or quicktime files of the scene in question. Every other movie on the planet with scenes that have been added or cut are explained in extreme detail on web sites. Why the silence for this one?

That's not the part in question. What's being debated is the existence of a scene before that where Sloan disrobes.

This is the only scene I remember seeing her in something skimpy:

http://www.idiotsavant.com/bueller/p...s/ferris07.jpg

well said....i want it to be true....i really do....but where are the pics?

Identify, same scene. It's just a part of the pool scene, it's not a different locale.

True, and this is one reason I'm leaning ever so slightly towards the "yes" camp on this one. And I know how frustrating it can be when you're absolutely sure of something and people still doubt you, but there is a strong case to be made for this scene being a manufactured memory.

The way the missing scene has been recalled by people here, I think, probably reflects the way many of us imagined what might have taken place based on what Sloane says to Cameron later. I’m pretty sure I haven’t seen the scene in question (though I’ve watched FBDO on TV countless times) and even I get a visual picture based on some of the descriptions, that triggers something in my subconscious. What would help convince me, other than hard proof obviously, is some shared memory of an arcane detail, a specific line of dialogue, or some other oddity that wouldn’t necessarily fit in to a general recollection (or imagining) of the scene.

Either way, I’m interested in knowing the answer. It’s not like the Kennedy assassination or anything. We should be able to get to the bottom of this.

When Hannibal came out on DVD, multiple people had independent recollections of seeing additional brain-cutting footage in the theatre. Footage which definitively did not exist, as we later found out from the DVD's producer. Indeed, when someone posted a shot from the film, a bunch of people said "That's it! That's the missing footage I saw!" Embarassingly, the shot was a screencap from the DVD.

DJ

I apologize for re-covering old ground, but:

The film on the DVD
(and as I remember it from the theatre and the VHS)
cuts from the trio on the bluff overlooking the lake with Ferris talking to the camera and Cameron catatonic
to a shot of Ferris and Sloan in the hottub eating oreos and Cameron sitting in a chair on the edge of the diving board.

If there was (as some people claim) additional footage in that scene of Sloan disrobing, and hesitating, and then checking to make sure Cameron isn't watching her...
Cameron couldn't already be on the end of the diving board --was Sloan disrobing on the diving board so that she could wave her hand in front of Cam's face?

So was there also footage of them moving Cameron to the end of the diving board?

As it is, the cut between the two scenes plays as a joke:
Sloan says they need to try something else to help Cameron,
and we cut to Ferris' idea of helping: going hottubbing with Sloan!

The extra footage makes concrete what Sloan describes having occurred later on, but how does it make sense narratively?

The extra footage would ruin the joke.
And on the commentary track, John Hughes says that the juxtaposition of the two scenes is supposed to play as a joke.

No. Cut from how can we help Cameron to them about to hot tub, then cut to them moved to lounging in the tub, him now vegetating on the diving board.


That's probably why it was cut. As I recall, it was brief anyway, and wasn't some sort of strip-tease, just a hesitation as she assures herself he ain't all there, then they're in the water. You didn't even really see what she was wearing underneath until after they are in the tub. I recall wondering if the decision on how to help Cameron was for her to strip in front of him, to snap him out of it or to test him and make him break "character," then realizing she was actually trying to make sure he could not see her. Maybe that was supposed to be part of the joke.


The cut is still to them having decided the best course of action is to hop in a hot tub, and not dramatically different. It does set up a payoff as the viewer is lulled along with Sloane only to have it turned around on both later. Again, I won't argue with taking it out, just with having seen it in one edit of the film, to the point that when I watched the DVD with my son I mentioned it as missing as soon as they cut to Sloane and Ferris already in the hot tub.

Where is John Hughes when you need him? If he says it never happened, I'll believe him. But man, I can see it.

Cut from "how can we help Cameron?"
to them about to hot tub,
then cut to them moved to lounging in the tub, him now vegetating on the diving board.


So besides Sloan disrobing, what's going on in this "about to hot tub" scene?
Where's Ferris?
Where's Cameron?
We suddenly cut to a scene with him sitting on the end of the diving board, and that's supposed to make any sense?

Cutting from Sloan's concern about helping Cameron to the shot of them in the hot tub is the joke.
Any footage in between would ruin the joke. It doesn't make sense.

Count me in as one of the many people, who even as a little kid, swore he saw the Biggs Darklighter scene in Star Wars.

I'll add Cry-Baby to that list. When it comes out on dvd eventually (please?!?!?) I hope they add in the tv-broadcast scenes as special features, or an alternate version (but of course don't mess with the theatrical version). I wouldn't mind an SE of Sixteen Candles with a tv version as well (with the extra scenes, like in the cafeteria).

And Pretty Woman has the opposite situation - they cut in about 3 scenes that I can think of that was "b-roll" footage - and you have NO option to watch the original theatrical version. That sincerely sucks, as the b-roll footage makes the film much more sleazy - puts the whole hooker thing right in your face (whereas with the OTR you could forget about it for most of the film).

After reading this whole thread...I am torn. At first I couldn't remember a scene with Sloane undressing (but them, I am a girl, and straight ;) ) but when it was described in detail - I do remember sloane waving her hand in front of cameron's face, then diving, and him sneaking a peek out of the corner of his eye. So either I'm really easily swayed (which I'm not) or there is a cut scene out there somewhere. And I wouldn't take it for granted that the lack of info = it doesn't exist, because it could have been in a tv cut, a trailer, etc. I have seen too many instances where studios have given misleading information (beauty and the beast, lion king, etc. - not truly OTR or uncut- they've been altered in really sneaky ways) to believe what the studios have to say either.

I suppose I'll add my worthless two cents to this thread.

I have seen the film countless times on TV, as well as countless times on DVD, and I have never seen the scene in question. Ever.

Me too. I even got into a couple of heated debates about this in the early days of Usenet. My memory was so vivid, there was NO WAY that I didn't see this. :lol: Even my dad confirmed that he had seen it with me, way back in '77.

The mind plays some pretty funny tricks on us. I accept now that I had a lot of Star Wars going on in my life at the time -- the comics, the storybook, the novel, the radio drama, etc. And, over time, my mind just filled in that scene for me. It was never in the film.


That's what I'm saying about this situation -- just because dozens of people swear they've seen something, doesn't make it necessarily true.

I was 25 when SW came out and can emphatically state there was no Luke Skywalker/Biggs Darklighter sequence, although Biggs does appear in the DeathStar attack. There was no "A New Hope: Episode IV" title either, just Star Wars.

But the Luke/Biggs scene does exist and I've seen it. At San Diego ComicCon a few years ago.

Maybe, maybe not. SW had a limited release to just 50 theaters nationwide a month before it's much wider general release. I was going to art school in Pittsburgh and saw it about a month before most of my friends. Yeah, I bragged.

At any rate, at least a week, maybe two, before it's intial limited release, SW had sneak preview showings. This I know because some of my art school friends saw a SW sneak preview. If you and your dad saw one, it's quite possible it had the Luke/Biggs scene.

A lot of films have sneak previews and are re-edited before their release. Even with as little as a weeks time between them.

Doesn't mean it isn't true, either. Put me in the group who thinks they saw Cameron sneaking a peek.

And, here's something else to think about. A lot of films have had regionally edited versions, and I don't mean regions in the DVD regions sense; meaning different countries. I mean different areas of the U.S. And it wasn't just limited to the North and South. Sometimes even within the same state. Major cities could get a slightly different version than less urban areas. While it wasn't a major movie industry secret, it wasn't something the studios exactly bragged about.

Where did you live when FBDO was released? I was living in a major metropolitan area.

I'm not sure if someone else stated this already, but I think a lot of people imagined the scene in question as a result of fantasizing about what Mia Sara disrobing would have looked like had it actually played out.

I also think the concept of it being a scene added back in for made-for-tv viewing to fill time is feasible as well.

I haven't followed this whole thread, but here is another one for you: In Independence Day, when they finally admit to the President that Area 51 exists, the Secretary of Defense (James Rebhorn?) says "That isn't entirely accurate." Jeff Goldblum asks "What? Which part?" I swear that in the theater the Sec.Def. then said "All of it." However the last line is not in any video version that I've seen. Any thoughts?

I was thinking about that kind of thing yesterday too. I remember a scene in one of the trailers for the first Major League where they were at dinner after one of their first games where Charlie Sheen's character pitched, and someone hit a home run off him. Someone told him there were a lot of parks that wouldn't have been hit out of, he said to name one, and they replied, "Yellowstone". That scene never made it into the movie.

That scene's not in the movie? I'm prett sure that it is.

I have seen Ferris Bueler's Day Off many, many times on VHS, UK VHS, bare bones DVD, in the theater, on network tv, and cable tv. This scene does not exist. Next question.