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hanshotfirst1138 02-18-15 11:21 PM

I wasn't overly bothered by the religious stuff, though it was ham-fisted as hell and if it was going to be a part of the movie, should've actually been handled more gracefully. I was more irritated by the characters, who are supposed to be trained scientists, acting like moronic slasher movie victims.


Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 12399700)
Hopefully this ignores every last bit of Prometheus.

Apparent from the pointless tag at the end (and even that's fairly tenuously connected), there really isn't much in Prometheus which would impact anything elsewhere in the franchise. It's obviously set in the same world, and the stuff with the Engineers is obviously tied in to the Space Jockeys, at least nominally, but for all of the "It's a prequel to Alien hullabaloo, there's not much of it with a bearing on the (frankly thin as hell anyway) mythology. Though maybe that's just because giant chucks of the movie make no fricking sense at all.

Supermallet 02-18-15 11:53 PM

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Well, they clearly intended Prometheus to tie in to Alien, with the ship being identical (not the same ship, but the same type), and the images of Xenomorphs in the hieroglyphs and the creature at the end. And we don't know how they might try to tie the second Prometheus (Prometheuses?) in.

brayzie 02-19-15 06:38 AM

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I don't think there needs to be a total reboot other than for the studio wanting to disassociate a new film from lesser installments like Alien: Resurrection, AvP, AvP 2, and even Prometheus that they feel hurt the brand.

I hated how Alien 3 ended but it was a quality film considering the direction they took with it. Everything after comes across as fan-fiction, with the exception of Prometheus. The problem with that film was that for being modern SF it was pretty dumb, had characters written like they were in a Friday the 13th movie, and lazy creature designs.

...Actually I guess there needs to be a reboot. They're not going to do Prometheus 2, people aren't clamoring for a sequel to Alien: Resurrection or AvP 3, so they need to do something to revitalize the name.

DthRdrX 02-19-15 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by brayzie (Post 12399920)

...Actually I guess there needs to be a reboot. They're not going to do Prometheus 2, people aren't clamoring for a sequel to Alien: Resurrection or AvP 3, so they need to do something to revitalize the name.

They are still doing Prometheus 2. The Variety article said it's going to be done separate of Alien 5.

robin2099 02-19-15 11:11 AM

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I'm down with the idea of Bloomkamp doing an Alien 5. As long as he doesn't go super fan boy and turn out a pos similar to what happened with Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers. Prometheus 2 can just burn in development hell though. What an ok concept with terrible execution.

Sonic 02-19-15 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by brayzie (Post 12399920)
...Actually I guess there needs to be a reboot. They're not going to do Prometheus 2, people aren't clamoring for a sequel to Alien: Resurrection or AvP 3, so they need to do something to revitalize the name.

Why? It's the same shit one already seen throughout tons of Alien movies. Humans shooting down Aliens as they're getting chased. It's a tiring formula.

The only way this new Alien movie from Blomkamp will work is if half human/half alien (like Ripley) soldiers goes against the aliens.

That is why I think he's the perfect director because in District 9 that dude morphed into an alien and it was freaking cool. Blompkamp's alien artwork shows Ripley as an alien soldier. It's the only way to make this movie fun again.

inri222 02-19-15 11:46 AM

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Let it die and pretend only Alien & Aliens exist.

Ranger 02-19-15 11:52 AM

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I agree, ignore everything after Aliens.

The religion stuff didn't bother me in Prometheus. I meant that it seemed they'd make it have a much bigger part in Prometheus 2. Like is "Paradise" Hell, are the engineers dark angels, etc? Or maybe they're good angels?

RocShemp 02-19-15 12:08 PM

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The only way to make Prometheus work at all is to explain that the Engineers did not create the Xenomorphs but were rather trying to bring them back into existence (a'la Jurassic Park). It's the only way to explain the painting of the Xenomorph Queen despite the final Xenomorph looking like some weird mutant offshoot of the typical Xenomorph.

RocShemp 02-19-15 01:50 PM

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I saw this posted on FB in response to the news:

"You see, the Aliens all this time were a symbolically oppressed minority, fighting the metaphor of white privilege represented by the space marines who...Oh God I hate it already!"

:lol:

Why So Blu? 02-19-15 01:58 PM

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That's funny. :lol:

RocShemp 02-19-15 01:59 PM

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Yeah that was from Doug Walker (a.k.a. Nostalgia Critic).

Troy Stiffler 02-19-15 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 12399824)
(Prometheuses?)

It's Prometheuie.

Supermallet 02-19-15 02:39 PM

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I think Alien 3 is good enough to be included with the first two Alien films. It's not perfect but it's a quality film that's a damn sight better than anything that came after.

Giantrobo 02-19-15 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 12400414)
I saw this posted on FB in response to the news:

"You see, the Aliens all this time were a symbolically oppressed minority, fighting the metaphor of white privilege represented by the space marines who...Oh God I hate it already!"

:lol:


:lol: Wait a minute... :mad:

Shannon Nutt 02-19-15 02:47 PM

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The only way to bring back ALIEN properly is to have Ellen Ripley brought out of a deep freeze and reveal that ALIEN 3 and ALIEN RESURRECTION were just bad dreams. That may piss off some fans, but the number of fans it would please far outweighs the number it would tick off.

Bringing back the clone/Alien hybrid of Ripley is something I have ZERO interest in seeing.

RocShemp 02-19-15 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 12400519)
The only way to bring back ALIEN properly is to have Ellen Ripley brought out of a deep freeze and reveal that ALIEN 3 and ALIEN RESURRECTION were just bad dreams. That may piss off some fans, but the number of fans it would please far outweighs the number it would tick off.

Bringing back the clone/Alien hybrid of Ripley is something I have ZERO interest in seeing.

What's funny is that one of the initial plot ideas for Alien Resurrection was to start with Alien 3 being nothing but a hypersleep-induced nightmare, like the one from the beginning of Aliens.

Lt Ripley 02-19-15 03:40 PM

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Part 3 is good. Tewt and Twix dying at the beginning was perfect. Only problem is how did it get on board and how could they have possibly been too stupid to scan the ship prior to going into hypersleep.

stvn1974 02-19-15 04:30 PM

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"In Space No One Can Hear You Beating A Dead Horse"

inri222 02-19-15 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by stvn1974 (Post 12400660)
"In Space No One Can Hear You Beating A Dead Horse"

rotfl

Lt Ripley 02-19-15 05:04 PM

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http://i58.tinypic.com/iw2jaq.jpg

Ranger 02-19-15 05:08 PM

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Now there's no plan for a Prometheus 3?

Supermallet 02-19-15 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lt Ripley (Post 12400711)

:lol:

Abob Teff 02-19-15 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by antspawn (Post 12400213)
The only way this new Alien movie from Blomkamp will work is if half human/half alien (like Ripley) soldiers goes against the aliens.

Well, we could have somebody ... Say a TV star turned action movie star ... Training the Aliens so when a bigger, badder Alien gets loose ... Fuck, who writes this shit?!

Abob Teff 02-19-15 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ranger (Post 12400716)
Now there's no plan for a Prometheus 3?

Plan? Yes.
Chance we actually want it? No.


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