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Old 07-08-03 | 03:17 PM
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Star Wars Franchise(CERTAIN SCENES)...There's music in every scene!!! Lucas needs to learn how to do some scenes without music. M Knight Whatshisface knows how NOT to use music or at least QUIET music in some scenes.
That's ironic, cuz Lucas actually went back and removed the music from the Luke/Vader duel in Empire(well, most of it anyway). And he made the right move IMO. There's a lot more tension when all you can hear are the lightsabers and Vader's taunts.
Old 07-08-03 | 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by reubs82
I haven't seen Last Temptation, but do think it's kind of odd that Peter Gabriel did the score for it. SOmetimes this style works, and sometimes it doesn't.

Don't judge until you have seen it. One of the best scores I have ever heard in a movie. Peter Gabriel is the man. Plus he goes somewhat indepth about the music on the Criterion dvd. A dvd, I might add, is definitely worth owning.
Old 07-08-03 | 10:46 PM
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Originally posted by BigPete
I didn't really think any of the music from Ravenous worked at all. It just didn't send out the right vibe.
It's intriguing that there's such a polarization of opinions when it comes to the Ravenous soundtrack. For me, it's one of the best and most fascinating soundtracks I've ever heard. Bold and experimental. But I read your later explanation and I understand your perspective as well.
Old 07-08-03 | 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by Doughboy
That's ironic, cuz Lucas actually went back and removed the music from the Luke/Vader duel in Empire(well, most of it anyway). And he made the right move IMO. There's a lot more tension when all you can hear are the lightsabers and Vader's taunts.
Good for him.


IMHO, in the last 2 he could've removed even more music. There were scenes that were already corny on their own but with the "Cute music" under aevery word it made it seem even more corny.
Old 07-09-03 | 12:21 AM
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The absolute worst for me is Last House on the Left. I love horror, and love most of Wes Craven's work, but I HATE this movie, and most of it is because of the soundtrack. Goofy happy Beverly Hillbilly banjo music and disturbing rape scenes do not go together. It totally ruins the film for me.

I also hate the use of 'Surfin USA' in 'A View to a Kill'.
Old 07-09-03 | 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by lisadoris
Without a doubt The Transporter...... who on earth picked the music for this film?
yeah that the first movie that popped into my head too.. at least as far as the newer films I have bought on DVD.. It really is like they just needed to stuff "this sound track" in there and who cares if it did not fit...

Other one that sort of bugs me as far as over all bad music for a film is The Scorpion King.. As a fan of B grade films and even cheesy Fantasy / Adventure films over all I want and sort of expect Barbarian film = a set sort of music of that time or more Conan like.. Errrr but Scorpion King was just way to modern IMO for the setting and time line of the film.
Old 07-09-03 | 08:24 AM
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The use of Coldplay's "Clocks" in the new Peter Pan trailer is painfully out of place. Although a good song, its a Top 40 hit and takes you right out of the mood that the trailer is trying to establish. They should have just licensed an old score or classical piece if the film's regular one isn't finished yet.
Old 07-09-03 | 10:29 AM
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I find John Williams’ score for Schindler’s list to be particularly annoying.
Old 07-09-03 | 10:31 AM
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I really like the music in A Knight's Tale. I remember seeing the previews and just groaning (Modern music in a medival movie? WTF???), but it's a real guilty pleasure of mine now. Seems like everyone is having a blast making the film and I find that infectious.

I really didn't like the U2 song at the end of Gangs of New York. Too out of place and jarring.
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It's intriguing that there's such a polarization of opinions when it comes to the Ravenous soundtrack. For me, it's one of the best and most fascinating soundtracks I've ever heard. Bold and experimental. But I read your later explanation and I understand your perspective as well.
I think Ravenous as a whole was a love/hate kind of experience. I loved the movie and the music absolutely enhanced that experience - as you mentioned it was different and fascinating and bold. I really enjoyed that soundtrack.
Old 07-09-03 | 07:28 PM
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I just got out of Pirates of the Caribbean, and though I liked the soundtrack, I realized that it is incredibly close to The Rock and Armageddon, and I guess a lot of other Bruckheimer movies... I never noticed that before.

This is odd, I could have sworn that I saw Hans Zimmer in the credits for Pirates, but both the AOL review and the credit listing on IMDB list Klaus Badelt among others... Amazon has the soundtrack listed under Klaus Badelt as well.
Old 07-09-03 | 10:15 PM
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Originally posted by TCG
Thought of another:

Beverly Hills Cop, that synth track I'm sure was great in 1984, but having recently seen it in the theater, it is laughably bad.
Oddly enough, I started humming what I thought was the Axel Foley theme music, only to end up humming the theme music for Fletch....written by the same guy?...I definitely like the silly synth background in Fletch....
Old 07-11-03 | 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by DRG
[B]The absolute worst for me is Last House on the Left. I love horror, and love most of Wes Craven's work, but I HATE this movie, and most of it is because of the soundtrack. Goofy happy Beverly Hillbilly banjo music and disturbing rape scenes do not go together. It totally ruins the film for me.
I watched this for the first time the other night, and absolutely hated the score. What makes the music even worse is the fact that the singer (who happens to be David Hess, the actor who plays Krug) is singing about the characters in the movie. It makes it sound like some goofy children's TV show.
Old 07-12-03 | 01:02 AM
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The soundtrack in Vanilla Sky annoyed the hell out of me. For the most part, the music itself wasn't bad, but it was so intrusive. There was hardly a quiet moment in the entire film... Almost like Cameron Crowe felt it neccessary to show off his CD collection or something.
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Zimmer was a "mentor" to badelt, I believe. There you have it.
Old 07-12-03 | 12:58 PM
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A lot of the music cues in' Pirates'sounded very 'Gladiator' like to my ears.
Thus the Zimmer connection
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The Techno music at the end of EVENT HORIZON......


It just didn't fit.
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Originally posted by Doughboy
That's ironic, cuz Lucas actually went back and removed the music from the Luke/Vader duel in Empire(well, most of it anyway). And he made the right move IMO. There's a lot more tension when all you can hear are the lightsabers and Vader's taunts.
[off-topic rant] But that's taking away from the original vision and scope of the film! No Star Wars fan (or a true fan) would allow for such a travesty of justice![/off-topic rant]





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On topic, the new trend that annoys me is the use of an orchestral score during a film and then at the end, a pop/rock song written for the film - to promote the artist. Such examples include MI:2, Spider-Man, etc.

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Old 07-13-03 | 03:04 PM
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The music number they randomly CGI added into return of the jedi.
Agreed. The worst part of that is the original source music isn't on the Special Edition of the ROTJ score. PO'ed me after I listened to it before I saw the movie.
Old 07-13-03 | 07:29 PM
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Any of the music played at any point in Daredevil. The movie was fair to good, but the blatant attempts to sell the soundtrack at every turn knocked it down a few notches IMO.
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For some reason a scene in Notthing Hill has always stayed with me. It's toward the end of the movie and Hugh Grant is sad b/c his gal has left him, he is walking down the street, sullen, hands in his pockets and the soundtrack starts playing "Ain't no sunshine when she's gone..." This bugged me. I hate the use of song lyrics to tell me what's going on in the characters head. It's one thing if the music adds some insight or more depth and emotional impact to the scene but that isn't the case here, it's just sloppy overly sentimental storytelling.
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The soundtrack in Vanilla Sky annoyed the hell out of me. For the most part, the music itself wasn't bad, but it was so intrusive. There was hardly a quiet moment in the entire film... Almost like Cameron Crowe felt it neccessary to show off his CD collection or something.
i watched it again this weekend and i agree............but i think in most scenes it was intentional. there seemed to be a theme throughout the movie that put the completely opposite kind of music into the scene...................

Spoiler:
it gave me the feeling that none of it was real.........which the last half of the movie wasn't
Old 07-14-03 | 12:07 PM
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For some reason a scene in Notthing Hill has always stayed with me. It's toward the end of the movie and Hugh Grant is sad b/c his gal has left him, he is walking down the street, sullen, hands in his pockets and the soundtrack starts playing "Ain't no sunshine when she's gone..." This bugged me. I hate the use of song lyrics to tell me what's going on in the characters head. It's one thing if the music adds some insight or more depth and emotional impact to the scene but that isn't the case here, it's just sloppy overly sentimental storytelling.
And that's not even the worse offense in Notting Hill. I love the movie, don't get wrong but when Grant leaves the hotel after being dissed by Baldwin, the soundtrack swells into "How Can You Mend a Broken Heart." Great song, love Al Green, but totally unnecessary in that scene. If your script or the actors need heavy-handed music to convey emotion something is wrong.

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