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Old 08-25-06 | 10:04 AM
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Hasn't that video been proven to be a fake?
Which just adds insult to injury. If a bunch of fans threw that together and actually made it look like a live action version of the original cartoon, it just maginifies how unneccessary all these changes are to the designs.
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Old 08-25-06 | 10:11 AM
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Is that even the "final" Megatron design? For all we know, that's only what he'll look like before takes on his Earth form.
Yep.

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Old 08-25-06 | 12:16 PM
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I'm more disturbed that Megatron appears to be wearing a metallic g-string.
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Old 08-25-06 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Fincher Fan
I'm more disturbed that Megatron appears to be wearing a metallic g-string.
Paging Joel Schumacher... paging Joel Shumacher...
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Old 08-25-06 | 07:05 PM
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Old 08-25-06 | 07:38 PM
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Yeah but it's what "should have been".
Isn't it amazing how some tech geek on Jolt can outdo ILM over a weekend?
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Old 08-25-06 | 08:05 PM
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Wow. This is one of those situations that I’ve always been on the other side of. You know; the ones where the hard core fans are getting pissed off about the changes while the non fans are getting excited about the new direction the new medium takes the property.
I never got into the transformers as a kid or later. I couldn’t stand the production line animation design of robots made of cubes and rectilinear cubes. I always called them Rubiks robots. The transformations looked completely ridiculous and that bionic sound effect…well, sorry.
It was proven that robots and complex machinery could be animated in things like Maddox 1 and Roujin Z. I gravitated toward this fare. Seeing the photos of the Bumblebee, Blackout/Incinerator and that jet guy gives me hope. These actually look like machines that can function as a conventional vehicle and flower out into biped form and function that way. I applaud the design team. Except for Megatron, that smacks of the design school that brought us Arnie’s Mr Freeze and the never used Sentinel from X2. These people think that more noise in the detail, without any coherent structure, is where it’s at. Honestly, when I see design like that, I hearken back to the day when I thought methamphetamine made me a better artist. Bumblebee though? Wow! He opens up and you can see that the brake discs are the processes of his shoulder girdle. More stuff like that and I will be stoked.

Maybe I missed something when I missed the epic story of The Transformers (I watched the CG Beast Wars for a while) but, I just don’t get thrilled by really bad drawings. Maybe this time, I’m Joe 6-pack (well, Joe 12-pack really).

It feels weird to be Joe 12-pack for once, but I like machines, not living cubes.

Who knows? Maybe I’ll be posting in the “Most Disappointing Movies” thread after, but most of the designs have made me more excited than I was.
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Old 08-25-06 | 08:13 PM
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Megatron looks cool... as some sort of Insecticon queen. Honestly, I both like and hate his design. I can understand updating the designs and all but that is a total reimagination. If Don Murphy thinks he's appealing the fans by crapping all over their hopes for this feature, he should be banned from ever producing another feature again.

I know they've already shot some of this film but can't they just shoot around the Transformers so they can totally retool their designs to something that remotely resembles G1. Heck, even Armada was closer to what I'm seaing right now.

And, if it is too late, can they please change the title to something other than Transformers? I'm really having a hard time staying optimistic here.
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Old 08-25-06 | 08:24 PM
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Wow. This is one of those situations that I’ve always been on the other side of. You know; the ones where the hard core fans are getting pissed off about the changes while the non fans are getting excited about the new direction the new medium takes the property.
I never got into the transformers as a kid or later. I couldn’t stand the production line animation design of robots made of cubes and rectilinear cubes. I always called them Rubiks robots. The transformations looked completely ridiculous and that bionic sound effect…well, sorry.
It was proven that robots and complex machinery could be animated in things like Maddox 1 and Roujin Z. I gravitated toward this fare. Seeing the photos of the Bumblebee, Blackout/Incinerator and that jet guy gives me hope. These actually look like machines that can function as a conventional vehicle and flower out into biped form and function that way. I applaud the design team. Except for Megatron, that smacks of the design school that brought us Arnie’s Mr Freeze and the never used Sentinel from X2. These people think that more noise in the detail, without any coherent structure, is where it’s at. Honestly, when I see design like that, I hearken back to the day when I thought methamphetamine made me a better artist. Bumblebee though? Wow! He opens up and you can see that the brake discs are the processes of his shoulder girdle. More stuff like that and I will be stoked.
I get what you're saying (though I really dig the original show and it's character designs) and I agree to a point. Updaing them to something more functional doesn't bother me but some changes have been downright arbitrary. Like the horrible Megatron design you just pointed out. I want to like this movie but the production design makes me cringe. For example, I'd be willing to swallow Prime's design if not for the fact that the flames have a silly looking quality to them when he's in robot mode. I can look past it in the truck itself but the robot looks far too color crazy. Bumblebee doesn't really bug me except for the whole Camero issue. I get that VW said no (and I adore the new Camero) but they should have renamed him Hot Rod or something. Incinerator I actually like. Devastator should just not be a mere tank. What's the deal with Scorponok? He shouldn't even be in this movie. Plus, didn't they say no insects or animals for this movie? I know he's a robot scorpion but he sticks out from the other characters since he doesn't transform into any sort of vehicle or other Earthly aparatus. Again, Megatron looks good for another character altogether or even another movie altogether.
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Old 08-25-06 | 08:37 PM
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I haven't been following this production too closely, even though I was a big fan as a kid. I had a bunch of the toys, and when we would rent videos, I would use my "choice" for one 25 minute episode of Transformers.

As a fan of the reimagined Battlestar Galactica, I understand how sometimes you need to change things. But even BSG kept the look of the show IMO, the Vipers look like evolved Vipers, the Galactica looks like an evolved Galactica...

...these new Transformers designs...look like crap.

The "fake" video posted just above just gave me more of thrill than anything I've seen from the new production yet.

I don't have high hopes for this flick, despite the guy in charge, I was willing to give it a shot, but I'm seriously reconsidering.
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Old 08-26-06 | 01:26 AM
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I'm more disturbed that Megatron appears to be wearing a metallic g-string.
Would you rather have him running around with his cock flopping all over the place?
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Old 08-26-06 | 01:35 AM
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Spoiler-heavy script review.

If you guys hate the character designs, wait till you get a load of this.

Although I will cop to liking the part where
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Megatron tears Jazz in half, rips out his heart, and "screams into the sky."

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Old 08-26-06 | 01:54 AM
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at least the writers may have gotten Prime "right"
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Old 08-26-06 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
Isn't it amazing how some tech geek on Jolt can outdo ILM over a weekend?
Now now let's not throw ILM under the bus here. The blame has to go with the people who conceptualized the 'bots. If it turns out that it was ILM, then I'll roll the tires over them myself.
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Old 08-26-06 | 07:57 AM
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At least the real Transformers: The Movie (1986) is getting re-released on DVD in November. I just hope that if a live action G.I. Joe movie is ever made, the people who made the live action Transformers stay the hell away.

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Old 08-26-06 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
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Megatron tears Jazz in half, rips his heart, and "screams into the sky."
If I cared about this movie any longer, which I don't, my response to this would be a resounding "Fuck... "
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Old 08-26-06 | 12:02 PM
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I find this thread funny, mostly because every one of you will probably be there first day, no matter what.

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Old 08-26-06 | 12:16 PM
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I find this thread funny, mostly because every one of you will probably be there first day, no matter what.

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I think it's funny because it's a bunch of grown-ass men becoming really, really passionate about robots can transform into automobiles.
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Old 08-26-06 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
Spoiler-heavy script review.

If you guys hate the character designs, wait till you get a load of this.

Although I will cop to liking the part where
Spoiler:
Megatron tears Jazz in half, rips out his heart, and "screams into the sky."

They not only rip-off the predator, but they also.......... Unreal, how lame.
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Old 08-26-06 | 01:20 PM
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I think it's funny because it's a bunch of grown-ass men becoming really, really passionate about robots can transform into automobiles.
Your moms passionate about robots that can transform into automobiles. OOOOHHH FACED!
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Old 08-26-06 | 02:42 PM
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I think it's funny because it's a bunch of grown-ass men becoming really, really passionate about robots can transform into automobiles.
Welcome...to the Internet....
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Old 08-26-06 | 08:05 PM
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I find this thread funny, mostly because every one of you will probably be there first day, no matter what.

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Not me. It's looking like a matinee or Netflix.
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Old 08-26-06 | 08:08 PM
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I think it's funny because it's a bunch of grown-ass men becoming really, really passionate about robots can transform into automobiles.
Oh, and there are "grown-ass men" passionate about sports (you know, hitting balls with sticks or playing catch), collecting stamps, fishing, all kinds of things that seem ridiculous unless you are the one that enjoys it.

So yeah, I am passionate about seeing one of the most memorable parts of my childhood again on the big screen, and I do get upset when everything about the movie is decidedly NOT what I remembered. So what's it to you?
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Old 08-26-06 | 08:30 PM
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I'M NOT A DOUCHE!!!111!!!
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Old 08-26-06 | 09:40 PM
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Oh, and there are "grown-ass men" passionate about sports (you know, hitting balls with sticks or playing catch), collecting stamps, fishing, all kinds of things that seem ridiculous unless you are the one that enjoys it.

So yeah, I am passionate about seeing one of the most memorable parts of my childhood again on the big screen, and I do get upset when everything about the movie is decidedly NOT what I remembered. So what's it to you?


Come on. Can't you find any humor in your passion for The Transformers? It's not even just a little funny? Lighten up.
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