Spy Kids 3-D "Game Over"
07-22-03, 12:25 PM
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Review Wanted: Spy Kids 3D: Game Over
My family is going to see Spy Kids 3D: Game Over on Friday, we have seen the other 2 movies and had a good time watching them.
Has anyone seen a preview for the movie?
If so, how did you like it?
Has anyone seen a preview for the movie?
If so, how did you like it?
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07-22-03, 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by Rypro 525
Do we have to wear the glasses, or was that just a thing to get people in the theaters.
Do we have to wear the glasses, or was that just a thing to get people in the theaters.
07-22-03, 01:00 PM
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Are the glasses one lens red, one lens blue? Or are they the brown-ish lens like at Disney theme parks?
[Apologies for the ignorance regarding the correct technical terms..]
[Apologies for the ignorance regarding the correct technical terms..]
07-22-03, 01:15 PM
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The film is using the red/blue anaglyph format (the worst but simplest form of 3-D) for the 3-D sequences. Audiences must wear red and blue glasses and are cued when to put them on during the film.
The effect is OK, but the color is ruined. This type of 3-D is much more suitable for comic books and posters than for movies. It has rarely been used for movies, except for a few skinflicks and partial 3-D films like THE MASK and FREDDY'S DEAD.
99% of all 3-D movies have used the superior (but more complicated and expensive) polarized format in which the audieince wears clear polariod glasses. Some of them were later downconverted to red/blue but these versions look horrible and nothing like the originals. There is a new red/blue anaglyph print of CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON making the rounds, but it doesn't compare to the polarized originals.
Red/Blue anaglyph is subject to ghosting, distorted color, pinkish hues in black and white movies, blurry images, etc. If you've only seen red/blue 3-D, then you haven't really seen 3-D at all.
Those in the LA area might want to check out the World 3-D Film Expo this September, in which 33 3-D movies and 21 shorts and cartoons will be screened in polarized 3-D. These are all classics fro the 1950's and again, all in REAL 3-D, not the red/blue junk.
Even so, SPY KIDS is interesting enough for kids. They just shouldn't think what they are seeing is state of the art 3-D! And yes, only certain segments of the movie are three- dimensional.
The effect is OK, but the color is ruined. This type of 3-D is much more suitable for comic books and posters than for movies. It has rarely been used for movies, except for a few skinflicks and partial 3-D films like THE MASK and FREDDY'S DEAD.
99% of all 3-D movies have used the superior (but more complicated and expensive) polarized format in which the audieince wears clear polariod glasses. Some of them were later downconverted to red/blue but these versions look horrible and nothing like the originals. There is a new red/blue anaglyph print of CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON making the rounds, but it doesn't compare to the polarized originals.
Red/Blue anaglyph is subject to ghosting, distorted color, pinkish hues in black and white movies, blurry images, etc. If you've only seen red/blue 3-D, then you haven't really seen 3-D at all.
Those in the LA area might want to check out the World 3-D Film Expo this September, in which 33 3-D movies and 21 shorts and cartoons will be screened in polarized 3-D. These are all classics fro the 1950's and again, all in REAL 3-D, not the red/blue junk.
Even so, SPY KIDS is interesting enough for kids. They just shouldn't think what they are seeing is state of the art 3-D! And yes, only certain segments of the movie are three- dimensional.
I was going to see this movie, but I doubt I will now.
07-22-03, 01:53 PM
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The only reason I wanted to this pic was for the 3-D. Somehow I was under the mistaken impression that the 3-D was going to use a state of the art approach. Grrrr. I'm gonna pass.
07-22-03, 02:17 PM
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The 3-D is far from state of the art and infact it looked as low-tech as could be.
As Steve posted it is the red/blue technique and while the entire movie isn't 3-D. All the scenes in the game world are and that makes up the majority of the film's 88 minute running time. All told I'd say that 60-70 minutes of the film requires the use of the glasses.
They do let you know when to wear them though, when a main character puts on 3-D glasses then you are supposed to as well. For those who miss that subtle hint, they flash the words "GLASSES ON" or "GLASSES OFF" on the screen.
Plot wise this is still a good movie. The 3-D thing could have worked much better and the loss of color during those moments really got to me since the previous Spy Kids films were so bright and colorful.
As Steve posted it is the red/blue technique and while the entire movie isn't 3-D. All the scenes in the game world are and that makes up the majority of the film's 88 minute running time. All told I'd say that 60-70 minutes of the film requires the use of the glasses.
They do let you know when to wear them though, when a main character puts on 3-D glasses then you are supposed to as well. For those who miss that subtle hint, they flash the words "GLASSES ON" or "GLASSES OFF" on the screen.
Plot wise this is still a good movie. The 3-D thing could have worked much better and the loss of color during those moments really got to me since the previous Spy Kids films were so bright and colorful.
07-22-03, 02:57 PM
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I cannot believe they are using those crappy red and blue glasses! Man! I am so bummed!
I have two kids that would LOVE to see a 3D movie, but I will be damned if I'll spend regular movie prices for something that cheesy and crappy.
I used to love Robert Rodriguez, but Spy Kids 2 was disastrously awful, and now we have this BS.
I have two kids that would LOVE to see a 3D movie, but I will be damned if I'll spend regular movie prices for something that cheesy and crappy.
I used to love Robert Rodriguez, but Spy Kids 2 was disastrously awful, and now we have this BS.
07-22-03, 04:32 PM
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My guess they did the "cheaper 3D" because they are going to include 3D glasses in with the DVD, this will allow them to save lots of money with the cheap glasses. I would be willing to pay extra for the "Better 3D".
07-22-03, 04:40 PM
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Here is a link to some pictures from the movie:
http://www.latinoreview.com/films_20...spykids3d.html
http://www.latinoreview.com/films_20...spykids3d.html
07-22-03, 06:25 PM
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See those pictures show scenes that take place in the game world and they have rich and vibrant colors. If they had skipped the 3-D stuff then it would have been as eyepopping as the first two.
Oh well. Plot wise. It's still good.
Oh well. Plot wise. It's still good.
07-22-03, 07:10 PM
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The only reason they used anaglyph is because other than the glasses, no special equipment or techniques are required.
Polarized 3-D requires a silver screen (most movie screens aren't); special projection lenses, and careful and attentive projection. They really have to be on their toes to get it right. Logistics prevent this from being done cost effectively in 3500 theatres at once right now.
GHOSTS OF THE ABYSS did run in 35mm polarized 3-D in a handful of theatres as a test. I saw one of the 35mm screenings, and it was obvious the theatre didn't get it right. Cameron wants to have 100 theatres ready for competent polarized projection for his planned 3-D feature at minimum. Disney is also planning a 3-D Zombie movie; which presumably will also be shown in polarized, so they have to get cracking to make it work.
One interesting fact: In the 1980's, over 20 features were released in polarized 3-D, several of them very widely, by the standards of those days at least. Movies like JAWS 3-D and FRIDAY THE 13TH PART 3 managed to play in 1000 theatres at a time with no major issues, so why can't they do it now? I guess maybe because in 2003 most theatres have 16 year old ushers doubling as the projectionists for 15 screens at once? In a small Illinois town, I saw competently projected polarized 3-D showings of COMIN' AT YA!, PARASITE, TREASURE OF THE FOUR CROWNS, FRIDAY THE 13TH PART 3, SPACEHUNTER, JAWS 3-D, THE MAN WHO WASN'T THERE, ROTTWEILER, JAWS 3-D, METALSTORM, AMITYVILLE 3-D, STARCHASER, SILENT MADNESS, as well as re-issues of older ones like THE BUBBLE, ANDY WARHOL'S FRANKENSTEIN, DIAL M FOR MURDER, HOUSE OF WAX, THE STEWARDESSES. There were others released, but they weren't as widely distributed. (I had to sneak into half of them, because I wasn't old enough for the R rated ones at the time!) If they could do it then, they can do it now with a little attention.
Still, as I said, they could have done a polariod or IMAX version of SPY KIDS on a more limited basis if they wanted, and then went the anaglyph route for DVD.
Polarized 3-D requires a silver screen (most movie screens aren't); special projection lenses, and careful and attentive projection. They really have to be on their toes to get it right. Logistics prevent this from being done cost effectively in 3500 theatres at once right now.
GHOSTS OF THE ABYSS did run in 35mm polarized 3-D in a handful of theatres as a test. I saw one of the 35mm screenings, and it was obvious the theatre didn't get it right. Cameron wants to have 100 theatres ready for competent polarized projection for his planned 3-D feature at minimum. Disney is also planning a 3-D Zombie movie; which presumably will also be shown in polarized, so they have to get cracking to make it work.
One interesting fact: In the 1980's, over 20 features were released in polarized 3-D, several of them very widely, by the standards of those days at least. Movies like JAWS 3-D and FRIDAY THE 13TH PART 3 managed to play in 1000 theatres at a time with no major issues, so why can't they do it now? I guess maybe because in 2003 most theatres have 16 year old ushers doubling as the projectionists for 15 screens at once? In a small Illinois town, I saw competently projected polarized 3-D showings of COMIN' AT YA!, PARASITE, TREASURE OF THE FOUR CROWNS, FRIDAY THE 13TH PART 3, SPACEHUNTER, JAWS 3-D, THE MAN WHO WASN'T THERE, ROTTWEILER, JAWS 3-D, METALSTORM, AMITYVILLE 3-D, STARCHASER, SILENT MADNESS, as well as re-issues of older ones like THE BUBBLE, ANDY WARHOL'S FRANKENSTEIN, DIAL M FOR MURDER, HOUSE OF WAX, THE STEWARDESSES. There were others released, but they weren't as widely distributed. (I had to sneak into half of them, because I wasn't old enough for the R rated ones at the time!) If they could do it then, they can do it now with a little attention.
Still, as I said, they could have done a polariod or IMAX version of SPY KIDS on a more limited basis if they wanted, and then went the anaglyph route for DVD.
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07-22-03, 08:21 PM
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For those who miss that subtle hint, they flash the words "GLASSES ON" or "GLASSES OFF" on the screen.
For those who miss that subtle hint, they flash the words "GLASSES ON" or "GLASSES OFF" on the screen.
07-22-03, 11:15 PM
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Wow. 60 minutes or more of 3D. That sounds great. Plus, I get to keep the glasses (which I hear are made of plastic.)
If the movie ends up sucking, at least I can go sneak into Tomb Raider and Pirates.
If the movie ends up sucking, at least I can go sneak into Tomb Raider and Pirates.
07-23-03, 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by Goldberg74
This is almost as annoying as the scratch-and-sniff cards with Rugrats Go Wild and the numbers flashing in the corners.
This is almost as annoying as the scratch-and-sniff cards with Rugrats Go Wild and the numbers flashing in the corners.