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A Dances With Wolves Discussion

Old 02-22-03, 01:55 PM
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A Dances With Wolves Discussion

In honor of the new Dances With Wolves SE, i've decided to start a thread on the film itself.IMO i think it's a masterpiece.One of my all time favorites.Beautifully shot and directed, a great script and wonderful acting all-around.I however feel that it gets critized just because of Costner.I hear people who bad mouth the movie but just say bad things about Costner, not the film itself.Well, let's forget about the Costner bashing and concentrate on the film.I've seen the theatrical cut and the long version.While i think both versions are excellent, the long version details the characters even more and adds to them.Whether long or short this film will always be a grand epic.So, your thoughts.



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I also voted the long version is even better. While I might stop short of calling it a masterpiece, it is a very, very good film.

I totally agree with you that many people dislike it because they love to bash Kevin Costner (who, while not the world's greatest actor, is a lot better than he's usually given credit for).

Not only that, I also like The Postman. Will Patton was such a great villain. That was brilliant casting against type.
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Not only that, I also like The Postman.
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masterpiece. one of the only really good new era epics.
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Old 02-22-03, 03:27 PM
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Not quite a masterpiece, but I watch it whenever it's on TV. I do believe that Costner bashing is the leading cause of this movie's diminished reputation. John Barry's soundtrack gives the film a timeless and epic feel, and despite what I've heard people say this movie is very well acted. Costner has his best performance, outside a movie about sports, really making the character's changes believable.
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There should have been an option between "masterpiece" and "average". Now it only gets my "average" vote.
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Originally posted by lxl
There should have been an option between "masterpiece" and "average". Now it only gets my "average" vote.
Yeah my bad.
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My vote goes to "garbage." So sappy, melodramatic and lacking genuine emotion, for me. In my opinion, any of the other films nominated for Best Picture that year - even the dreadful Godfather III - would have been more worthy of the top Oscar honor.
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In my opinion, any of the other films nominated for Best Picture that year - even the dreadful Godfather III - would have been more worthy of the top Oscar honor.
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I say masterpiece. I haven't seen the extended version, so I'm highly anticipating the new DVD release.
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Originally posted by greatjedi
I say masterpiece. I haven't seen the extended version, so I'm highly anticipating the new DVD release.
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I thought it was a Masterpiece when I first saw it, but later realized that I was juat spellbound by the cinematography and score. (Which was enough and almost still is)

However, I think Goodfellas got screwed that year.
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Old 02-22-03, 07:36 PM
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while i cannot give it my blessing as a masterpiece ....DWW is an incredible film. i am eagerly awaiting the long cut on DVD. WHile i dodnt pretend to be a kostner fan, my fav movie of his will always be the bodyguard, then closely followed by dances with wolves
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Nice thread Amadeus. I wouldn't say its perfect, but I think Dances with Wolves deserves the label 'Masterpiece'. It is truly majestic on the big screen. This film comes to mind whenever I hear or read the word friendship. Its one of my favorite films; so far I've collected 3 of the posters & several dozen lobby cards.

I've read that Michael Blake is working on bringing the sequel The Holy Road to the screen (I don't think Costner is involved though). I haven't read the book, but I've got mixed feelings about a sequel.
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Nice thread Amadeus.
Thanks. As for a sequel, dear god i hope not.
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Better than the book! Which is rare with these types of stories, a lot of times they don't come off too authentic. You can tell the people involved in making Dances with Wolves really had passion for the story they were telling. My all time favorite movie.
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A Masterpiece!!
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A Masterpiece!!
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I liked it the first time I saw it, but I've seen it since and found it quite cringeworthy. So average, at best.
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I'm a sucker for a good score, and this movie has a FANTASTIC one. When I think of this movie, music fills my head way before the image of John on the horse in the battlefield. I like Costner movies also. Robin Hood: POT, Bull Durham, Field of Dreams, Silverado, Waterworld, The Postman, Dragonfly, JFK, The Bodyguard, The Untouchables, Tin Cup, Wyatt Earp, why does he get a bad rap?
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OH MY GOD! This thread is still open! Thank You God.
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Originally posted by movielib
I also voted the long version is even better. While I might stop short of calling it a masterpiece, it is a very, very good film.
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I have enjoyed the movie lot. I wouldn't call it "Masterpiece" or "An Average Film," but it's very powerful film about America Natives. It made me feel much more respect for America Native people.

I've read Michael Blake's novel, I think the book is way better than film.
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I watched it once... pure garbage... I almost walked out...

Can't stand Costner (but I won't bash him)... the only part I even remember was when Robert Pastorelli kept eating those pickled eggs and tooting...

I have never and will never own this movie, let alone watch it again.
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