Daredevil is BETTER than Spiderman, heres why.
02-18-03 | 08:13 AM
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Just my opinion but i don't believe in tearing apart a movie like that. I go on pure enjoyment and i must say i enjoyed DD at least as much as i enjoyed spiderman and plan on adding the DD dvd to my collection as i did with spiderman. I mean lets face it guys aside from the original batman and probably superman (been a long time since i saw it so i don't remember) i don't remember any other decent superhero movies. What is the point of bashing one over the other or even comparing the two. They both have different motivation. I personally hope that the next batman has the Azrael one that took over for batman in the comics after bane broke him. He was much darker and actually killed people, but that's getting off subject. I'm just saying This is the year of the superhero movies and honestly they all look awesome. Lets not go and compare them and watch them for what they are. Out of all the superhero movies coming out i personally think that the hulk has the most opportunity for major cheese. I think it may be the worst of the 4. Anyways that's my 2 cents (puts on flame retardant suit) 
02-20-03 | 12:20 AM
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Ok first let me say this .... for a person with an obvious IQ of less than 60 I am amazed that u were able to write this thread let alone put that much thought into it.
!:u are correct. Jennifer garner is smokin hot!!! I will concede this point
2: jack was way better than Colin... hands down
3: DD did display more human characteristics, but he DIDNT kill anyone in the film. He ALLOWED one person to die at the beginning, but he didn’t push the guy in front of the train the guy fell....he just didn’t help him up is all. Now, as for being more realistic, or true to character...... I suggest a tie. Letting that guys die was out of character for DD, but so were the web shooting glands and the "genetically engineered" spider. Both spidey and DD bleed, and were hurt in very human ways.
4: spidey not being with MJ right away was being true to the character, and made sense in the context of the film. While no where did it show that Electra was still with DD at the end...yes she left him something, so we know she is alive, but that doesn’t mean they are together
5:this isn’t even a valid argument .... there weren’t two villains in Spiderman... and as far as batman went .... well penguin and catwoman were very well played..... two-face and joker were ok .....and the triple threat poison ivy, Mr. freeze, and bane ....well that whole movie sucked ass so ...I wont even go there
6:his powers seemed more feasible??? yeah because I know so many blind people that can "see" in the rain.... they are freakin super powers ...they are NOT feasible !!!!!!!! no one can fly, or shoot force beams out thier eyes , or leap tall buildings in a single bound.
7: yes DD seems darker .... If u were an adult, gown up with your sight taken from you, well u would also be a bit darker than some teenager who can’t find the courage to ask the popular girl to the dance. The two comics were written in different eras, diff social climates, they cannot be compared in this way. That like saying batman is darker than superman ..... well duh!!!! they are diff characters.
You can prefer one over the other, but the reasons u gave have as many holes in logic as a slice of Swiss cheese.
Ok first let me say this .... for a person with an obvious IQ of less than 60 I am amazed that u were able to write this thread let alone put that much thought into it.
!:u are correct. Jennifer garner is smokin hot!!! I will concede this point
2: jack was way better than Colin... hands down
3: DD did display more human characteristics, but he DIDNT kill anyone in the film. He ALLOWED one person to die at the beginning, but he didn’t push the guy in front of the train the guy fell....he just didn’t help him up is all. Now, as for being more realistic, or true to character...... I suggest a tie. Letting that guys die was out of character for DD, but so were the web shooting glands and the "genetically engineered" spider. Both spidey and DD bleed, and were hurt in very human ways.
4: spidey not being with MJ right away was being true to the character, and made sense in the context of the film. While no where did it show that Electra was still with DD at the end...yes she left him something, so we know she is alive, but that doesn’t mean they are together
5:this isn’t even a valid argument .... there weren’t two villains in Spiderman... and as far as batman went .... well penguin and catwoman were very well played..... two-face and joker were ok .....and the triple threat poison ivy, Mr. freeze, and bane ....well that whole movie sucked ass so ...I wont even go there
6:his powers seemed more feasible??? yeah because I know so many blind people that can "see" in the rain.... they are freakin super powers ...they are NOT feasible !!!!!!!! no one can fly, or shoot force beams out thier eyes , or leap tall buildings in a single bound.
7: yes DD seems darker .... If u were an adult, gown up with your sight taken from you, well u would also be a bit darker than some teenager who can’t find the courage to ask the popular girl to the dance. The two comics were written in different eras, diff social climates, they cannot be compared in this way. That like saying batman is darker than superman ..... well duh!!!! they are diff characters.
You can prefer one over the other, but the reasons u gave have as many holes in logic as a slice of Swiss cheese.
02-20-03 | 01:26 AM
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This is the type of Big Blockbuster movie that gives Hollywood a bad name.
The story was contrived, the dialogue was laughable and the acting for the most part was horrible.
Dialouge like, "You killed the only two people I ever loved."
He knew Electra for what a few days?
Oh, I cant forget that blaring Metal rock sountrack. Geez, was this suppose to help the mode of the film?
Ben was the wrong person for the role. Jennifer Garner was there for the sake of being a love interest and had little resemblence to the Comic book character. Bent on Revenge! Now there was a plot twist.
What did she really have to do in this movie other than fight and become the love interest for the main character?
Birds of Prey was cancelled for being bad. We should be so lucky with this crappy movie.
Better than Spiderman? I dont think so. Sure Spiderman had its faults but the characters were pretty well rounded unlike Dardevil with its charactures.
this movie was made to capitilize on the sucess of Spiderman, yeah but if failed miserably.
Realistic? Darker? Than what?
The story was contrived, the dialogue was laughable and the acting for the most part was horrible.
Dialouge like, "You killed the only two people I ever loved."
He knew Electra for what a few days?
Oh, I cant forget that blaring Metal rock sountrack. Geez, was this suppose to help the mode of the film?
Ben was the wrong person for the role. Jennifer Garner was there for the sake of being a love interest and had little resemblence to the Comic book character. Bent on Revenge! Now there was a plot twist.
What did she really have to do in this movie other than fight and become the love interest for the main character?
Birds of Prey was cancelled for being bad. We should be so lucky with this crappy movie.
Better than Spiderman? I dont think so. Sure Spiderman had its faults but the characters were pretty well rounded unlike Dardevil with its charactures.
this movie was made to capitilize on the sucess of Spiderman, yeah but if failed miserably.
Realistic? Darker? Than what?
02-20-03 | 07:15 AM
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gmal2003
Ok first let me say this .... for a person with an obvious IQ of less than 60 I am amazed that u were able to write this thread let alone put that much thought into it.
gmal2003
Ok first let me say this .... for a person with an obvious IQ of less than 60 I am amazed that u were able to write this thread let alone put that much thought into it.
02-20-03 | 10:26 AM
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Kingpin should have been played a bit more fearsome. In the comic no one wanted to cross him. No one. In the movie he was played too lighthearted. And the fight between he and Daredevil should have lasted longer and Kingpin should have picked up desks and easily chucked them at Daredevil.
02-27-03 | 05:11 PM
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From entertainment weekly....
Ben There, Dumb That
''Daredevil'''s four fatal flaws. Here's why Ben Affleck's hit movie is the silliest superhero flick yet, says Brian Hiatt
IN THE RED Affleck (shown here with a dying Elektra, played by Garner) could have used some womanly advice on the look of his costume
The nation's No. 1 movie got one thing right: Daredevil's pec-hugging bodysuit, helpfully inscribed with the telltale initials ''DD,'' is unsightly enough to have been designed by a blind man.
But that's about it for realism in ''Daredevil.'' Even graded on a generous comic-book-movie curve, the film exhibits an uncommon disregard for the dictates of logic, common sense, and physics (Jennifer Garner's sturdy leather sportsbra excluded). Sure, the movie's $70 million-plus take suggests its lapses didn't faze many moviegoers. But even the most ardent Marvel Comics worshippers shouldn't have to put up with the level of silliness we've uncovered [warning: spoilers ahead].
LEGAL PROBLEMS Justice may be blind, but ''Daredevil'''s sloppy take on the legal system is just jaw-droppingly dumb. Ben Affleck's Matt Murdock must be the ditsiest lawyer since Ally McBeal; he, and the moviemakers, don't know whether he's a private attorney or a government prosecutor. The film establishes Murdock as a partner in a law firm, only to cut to a scene of him as a finger-pointing, speech-making prosecutor in a rapist's criminal trial. Then, when the rapist gets off (the jury must have been as confused as the audience), Murdock puts on his S&M outfit and pushes him in front of the C train. Now that's due process.
MOURNING BECOMES ELEKTRA ''Daredevil'' offers the most miraculous resurrection since Paula Abdul found a TV gig. In the film's climactic fight, Colin Farrell's Bullseye shreds Elektra's throat and impales her on her own sword; we see her heart stop. So how does she come back to life at the end? When Elektra croaked in the '80s ''Daredevil'' comics, a group of helpful ninjas revived her in a magical ritual. But there's nary a ninja to be found here. More puzzling: Instead of expressing bewilderment at his girlfriend's miraculous return from the grave, Affleck simply murmurs something about ''hope.'' Our hope? No ''Daredevil 2.''
POWER OF ATTORNEY ''Daredevil'''s makers touted their star as an all-too-human superhero who combats the aches and pains of crime-fighting by gulping Slim-Shady-worthy doses of Vicodin. So why do they betray their concept by showing Daredevil floating around Manhattan like a cross between Spider-Man and Mighty Mouse? Daredevil, whose only superhuman abilities are enhanced senses, is shown dodging bullets with a Neo-like ease, casually hurling himself from the top of skyscrapers, and making absurd 300-foot leaps from rooftop to rooftop. Forget Vicodin -- what this guy needs is a coffin.
OPEN SECRET Matt Murdock seems to have trouble understanding the ''secret'' part of ''secret identity.'' Sure, being a blind dude helps keep people from figuring out that you're a costumed crusader by night -- as long as you don't blow your cover by flaunting your abilities in broad daylight. But that's exactly what Murdock does in front of dozens of strangers in his cutesy first meeting with Elektra, engaging in an elaborate martial arts brawl that no blind man could ever attempt. Meanwhile, Elektra adds to the scene's foolishness with her alarming comfort about pummelling a cane-toting, shades-wearing sightless guy -- in public, no less. Talk about a bad blind date.
Ben There, Dumb That
''Daredevil'''s four fatal flaws. Here's why Ben Affleck's hit movie is the silliest superhero flick yet, says Brian Hiatt
IN THE RED Affleck (shown here with a dying Elektra, played by Garner) could have used some womanly advice on the look of his costume
The nation's No. 1 movie got one thing right: Daredevil's pec-hugging bodysuit, helpfully inscribed with the telltale initials ''DD,'' is unsightly enough to have been designed by a blind man.
But that's about it for realism in ''Daredevil.'' Even graded on a generous comic-book-movie curve, the film exhibits an uncommon disregard for the dictates of logic, common sense, and physics (Jennifer Garner's sturdy leather sportsbra excluded). Sure, the movie's $70 million-plus take suggests its lapses didn't faze many moviegoers. But even the most ardent Marvel Comics worshippers shouldn't have to put up with the level of silliness we've uncovered [warning: spoilers ahead].
LEGAL PROBLEMS Justice may be blind, but ''Daredevil'''s sloppy take on the legal system is just jaw-droppingly dumb. Ben Affleck's Matt Murdock must be the ditsiest lawyer since Ally McBeal; he, and the moviemakers, don't know whether he's a private attorney or a government prosecutor. The film establishes Murdock as a partner in a law firm, only to cut to a scene of him as a finger-pointing, speech-making prosecutor in a rapist's criminal trial. Then, when the rapist gets off (the jury must have been as confused as the audience), Murdock puts on his S&M outfit and pushes him in front of the C train. Now that's due process.
MOURNING BECOMES ELEKTRA ''Daredevil'' offers the most miraculous resurrection since Paula Abdul found a TV gig. In the film's climactic fight, Colin Farrell's Bullseye shreds Elektra's throat and impales her on her own sword; we see her heart stop. So how does she come back to life at the end? When Elektra croaked in the '80s ''Daredevil'' comics, a group of helpful ninjas revived her in a magical ritual. But there's nary a ninja to be found here. More puzzling: Instead of expressing bewilderment at his girlfriend's miraculous return from the grave, Affleck simply murmurs something about ''hope.'' Our hope? No ''Daredevil 2.''
POWER OF ATTORNEY ''Daredevil'''s makers touted their star as an all-too-human superhero who combats the aches and pains of crime-fighting by gulping Slim-Shady-worthy doses of Vicodin. So why do they betray their concept by showing Daredevil floating around Manhattan like a cross between Spider-Man and Mighty Mouse? Daredevil, whose only superhuman abilities are enhanced senses, is shown dodging bullets with a Neo-like ease, casually hurling himself from the top of skyscrapers, and making absurd 300-foot leaps from rooftop to rooftop. Forget Vicodin -- what this guy needs is a coffin.
OPEN SECRET Matt Murdock seems to have trouble understanding the ''secret'' part of ''secret identity.'' Sure, being a blind dude helps keep people from figuring out that you're a costumed crusader by night -- as long as you don't blow your cover by flaunting your abilities in broad daylight. But that's exactly what Murdock does in front of dozens of strangers in his cutesy first meeting with Elektra, engaging in an elaborate martial arts brawl that no blind man could ever attempt. Meanwhile, Elektra adds to the scene's foolishness with her alarming comfort about pummelling a cane-toting, shades-wearing sightless guy -- in public, no less. Talk about a bad blind date.
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Re: Re: Daredevil is BETTER than Spiderman, heres why.
Originally posted by El-Kabong
....I hated the film for those exact same reasons. I dont like superheroes that murder and shirk their responsibility. They should be With great power, blah, blah blah - not "Hey baby, lets get some!" That's why Superman and Spiderman owned Daredevil. Others over self. Nobel ideals over dark revenge and selflessness....
....I hated the film for those exact same reasons. I dont like superheroes that murder and shirk their responsibility. They should be With great power, blah, blah blah - not "Hey baby, lets get some!" That's why Superman and Spiderman owned Daredevil. Others over self. Nobel ideals over dark revenge and selflessness....
