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Old 01-27-03 | 03:37 AM
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"You won't be able to tell which one is real and which one is not."



we'll see. :P the cgi neo looked questionable. the cgi agent jumping on the car looked silly. cgi-ing people stinks!
Old 01-27-03 | 03:48 AM
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im a tricky trickster, heres a direct link to the mov

http://progressive.stream.aol.com/wb...iler640_dl.mov
Old 01-27-03 | 03:52 AM
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Old 01-27-03 | 06:54 AM
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Thing is, about 99% of the people that watched the trailer are casual fans. They'll go see it, but they don't come the internet looking for news about the upcoming films. So, I think they decided to give us (or more, the casual viewer) a trailer that reminds the casual viewer of why they loved the first one and to intice them to see the next 2.
Old 01-27-03 | 11:13 AM
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I was worrying about these movies...I loved the first one and never thought a sequel would be a great idea, but this teaser has me finally sold. Sure, it looks like a similar style, but that's what I want... I don't want this film to be entirely different, as it needs to fit into the MATRIX cannon and work with the first film...

While I was enjoying the ad, nothing was a ****ing cool as when the Agent jumps on the car... I couldn't help but yell out "**** yeah!"... that shot has got my ass in the theatre come may....

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Old 01-27-03 | 11:29 AM
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While I was enjoying the ad, nothing was a ****ing cool as when the Agent jumps on the car... I couldn't help but yell out "**** yeah!"... that shot has got my ass in the theatre come may....

MATT
I was sitting there thinking: Man Agent Smith what the hell did that car do to you? It's only the first trailer so I'm not worried. I loved it and they could not release another trailer and my butt will still be planted in a theatre come opening day.
Old 01-27-03 | 07:10 PM
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Yup

I tend to agree with this analysis- it is still a teaser, not a full trailer. They are mainly getting the general public excited for an action flick, while the movie itself will no doubt strive to be more than just that.
Old 01-27-03 | 08:01 PM
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Nothing in this commercial impressed me at all. Until I see a more 'story-oriented' trailer (if such a thing will even exist) all it appears to be is the first Matrix on methamphetamines. And not being the biggest fan of the first one, that is not necessarily a good thing in my view.
Old 01-27-03 | 08:55 PM
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Honestly you shouldn't be looking in the trailers for depth and story. I mean, those things are supposed to get as many people into the theaters as possible...so, they use action, effects and money shots to get people in. That's what they're for, and as was said before, it's aimed at the casual viewer, not the die hard Matrix fan who knows it all, will analyze the trailer, and wants to know everything about the story. I mean, I thought we were always complaining about trailers telling us too much about the story anyway? I'd rather the trailer just tease us and not tell us ANYTHING about the story. That's why I go and watch the movie. But perhaps you guys would rather them put a trailer together where they tell you that Neo gets off the island and gets it on with Helen Hunt.
Old 01-27-03 | 09:35 PM
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I don't think there's any doubt that the Matrix movies will be deep in story and rich in character. . .
But I don't think the Teasers or the Trailers are gonna have a whole lot of that. They just sort of allude to something bigger, greater. . .
And I love that, I don't want to be spoiled. I want to be wowed and surprised on opening day.
Incredible Teaser though.
Old 01-27-03 | 10:10 PM
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Can't wait!
Old 01-27-03 | 11:53 PM
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Agent VS. The Car

Personally I thought the trailer was amazing and showed me that I must do everything I can to see this movie ASAP.

Now my wife is usually a harder sell on movies like this. She saw the first one with me but only because I made her. I figured I'd show her the trailer. When that car was demolished my wife actually yelled out loud like mdc3000. I was pretty amazed that it got her that into the movie. Now I feel better about dragging her to see this one.
Old 01-27-03 | 11:59 PM
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This trailer was simply incredible. I will be playing this over and over on my computer. Just incredible.
Old 01-28-03 | 03:32 AM
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Old 01-28-03 | 05:18 AM
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it was an awesome trailer and man when that agent stepped on that car and smashed it I just dropped my jaw on that one pretty amazing.

I didnt know both of them are coming out this year
Old 01-29-03 | 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by DVD Smurf
I really liked Matrix for its story and its philosophy. The question is whether they can get something that remarkable in a sequel, and if it can measure up with the first film. Sure the fight sequence looked very action packed, but fight is a fight. However, it is the story that makes the film.
I agree! The first one had the original idea of the "real world" and all the philosophy of living in a computer program. That shock factor, along with all the new bullet time fight scenes really made an impact. The original was just a great plot made into a great movie by two directors who just worked really hard to make something that wasn't cheesy. I don't think that they will allow the fall of the series to occur. These directors really care about their work. I'm interested to see what new plot twists they introduce!! I don't think they'll rely solely on the special effects to carry the movies.
Old 01-29-03 | 02:17 PM
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the cgi people looks really weird. i really liked the fact that humans were humans in the first one -- no cgi stuntmen, or whatever. it never looks good enough.

about this virtual cinematagrophy, could someone post more info on it? never heard of it before now.
The effects whiz is especially giddy today, because he finally gets to tell an outsider about “virtual cinematography,” his team’s big invention for the sequels, which will make bullet time look like finger painting. Welcoming his guest inside, he begins by apologizing for any ruckus that might occur downstairs. “We’re blowing up sentinels today,” he says. Twenty minutes later, a distant voice cries out, “Fire in the hole!” Gaeta pauses for a few seconds. Silence. So he resumes talking. The next instant, a deafening blast sends him (and his interviewer) ducking for cover. A tinkling sound showers the outer wall of his office. “Did you hear that?” he asks, delighted. “I think that was debris!” Gaeta laughs. “Welcome to the war zone.”



Virtual cinematography wipes out the line in the sand between what is real and what looks like the work of a computer. “Anyone who watches movies or TV or just lives their life is the ultimate expert in realism,” Gaeta says. “You know when things are fake. You can just sense it.” But not anymore. Remember that fight scene in “Reloaded” between Neo and the 100 Agent Smiths? Obviously, only one of those Agent Smiths is the real actor, Hugo Weaving—but you won’t be able to tell which one. The other 99, all digital creations, are three-dimensional, photo-realistic copies. They’re not just close approximations. They’re perfect. Their hair ripples, their faces contort, their bodies twist and fight. Now, if Gaeta and his team can create virtual humans, then they can create virtual anything: rooms, vehicles, you name it. And they have. And you’ll never know.
The refreshing thing about virtual cinematography is that it starts out with the genuine article. “We try to base everything on real actors and real objects,” says Gaeta. “It’s a very strong philosophical view that Larry and Andy and all of us share.” Here’s a gross oversimplification of how it works. Using five high-resolution digital cameras strong enough to pick up details like pores and follicles, Gaeta’s team will record an actor’s performance. This process is called universal capture, or u-cap. The team then feeds the information from all five cameras into a computer, and a complex algorithm calculates the actor’s appearance from every single angle the cameras missed. “Once we have the master performance captured,” Gaeta explains, “we can actually use it to create an event, like a martial-arts fight. But it could be anything.” Like, for example, a scene in which Neo flies at 2,000mph through a metropolis—which is what you’re looking at on the cover of this magazine.

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Old 01-29-03 | 02:33 PM
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Actually reading the whole article is a good idea, it's actually very interesting.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/850165.asp
Old 01-29-03 | 03:02 PM
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With the first Matrix my expectations were low (for me it was the warm up for Star Wars Episode I). I thought it would be a standard action flick but it raised the bar in terms of visuals and a fairly complex story line to boot. Before we all saw The Matrix little did we know it would become the Main Event of the year.

The new commercial makes the Matrix Reloaded look even slicker and bigger budgeted than the first. The general outline in terms of story has been set. The surprise of the two seperate worlds has already been told so it will just be expanding on that theme.

People who weren't moved by the first one aren't going to be impressed by its sequels. But those of us who love it for what it is...Boo-Yah! After all the action movies that tried to ape its look and style its finally time for the real thing!!!


Matrix Reloaded, Matrix Revolutions, and Return of the King. 2003, what a great vintage it will be.
Old 01-29-03 | 03:47 PM
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This preview blew me away. I thought the Hulk looked retarded.
Old 01-29-03 | 10:22 PM
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I can't wait both of these movies are the most anticapated movies for me.
They are going to blow away any exeptations we have about them.
Old 01-31-03 | 02:59 AM
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It seems barely possible for any movie to live up to the expectations being built up here, but I guarantee that the best way to watch these will be knowing as little about them as you can manage. Best of luck with that though.

For me, I want plot. Could care less about the fights and effects really. After decades of computer games promising and delivering better and better graphics you eventually realise they're about 2% of what you will appreciate about them in the long term. Movies are exactly the same.

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Old 01-31-03 | 04:18 PM
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After I seen the trailor where he swings on that pole while kicking the $hit out of those agents,I had to check my pants,WOW.

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