Continuity Errors in TTT?
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Originally posted by teplitsa
I just thought of this in the morning. Merry and Pippin have never been to Isengard or Orthanc. How did they know that Saruman had desecrated the trees in order to have treebeard take them there?
Gandalf had been there, he relayed the situation in FOTR, plus they may have overheard orc conversations during their captivity.
I just thought of this in the morning. Merry and Pippin have never been to Isengard or Orthanc. How did they know that Saruman had desecrated the trees in order to have treebeard take them there?
Gandalf had been there, he relayed the situation in FOTR, plus they may have overheard orc conversations during their captivity.
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Re: Continuity Errors in TTT?
Originally posted by im2smrt4u
How many people noticed continuity errors in TTT? What are they?
Another error a friend told me about was a while after Merry (or was it Pippin? ) pulled off his leaf brooch and spit it out. Later, during the orc battle, my friend said they both had their brooches on.
Finally, the last thing I noticed was Sam and Frodo's brooches would flip directions almost every scene near the end of the movie. I didn't notice if they did that earlier...
How many people noticed continuity errors in TTT? What are they?
Another error a friend told me about was a while after Merry (or was it Pippin? ) pulled off his leaf brooch and spit it out. Later, during the orc battle, my friend said they both had their brooches on.
Finally, the last thing I noticed was Sam and Frodo's brooches would flip directions almost every scene near the end of the movie. I didn't notice if they did that earlier...
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Re: Re: Continuity Errors in TTT?
Originally posted by milo bloom
I used my free ticket from the EE tonite, and I watched for these: nope and nope, Pippin's brooch stays gone, and Frodo and Sam's brooches don't switch, it's just that Sam's points one way, and Frodo's points the other. But I'm pretty sure they stay the same for each respectively.
I used my free ticket from the EE tonite, and I watched for these: nope and nope, Pippin's brooch stays gone, and Frodo and Sam's brooches don't switch, it's just that Sam's points one way, and Frodo's points the other. But I'm pretty sure they stay the same for each respectively.
Not quite a continuity error but the horse that Eomer gave Aragorn was named Hasufel. He later calls it Brego, the second King of Rohan. Maybe something was cut where he got another horse. On the battlements of Helms Deep, Aragorn drawsmhis sword with his left hand, but he is right handed and always wore his sword on his left. But I think this was a reverse shot to contrast the angle that the Uruks were on. I've seen it 5 times.
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Originally posted by Harlock415
Not quite a continuity error but the horse that Eomer gave Aragorn was named Hasufel. He later calls it Brego, the second King of Rohan. Maybe something was cut where he got another horse.
Not quite a continuity error but the horse that Eomer gave Aragorn was named Hasufel. He later calls it Brego, the second King of Rohan. Maybe something was cut where he got another horse.
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Ok, I think I have what could be a real continuity error. In the battle at Helm Deep there is a scene after the Elf commander dies where Aragorn gets angry and grabs the top of one of the ladders and pushes it over onto a bunch of orcs while riding it. What seemed strange about this is that the ladders would only be on the outside of the wall, and therefore Aragorn was throwing himself into a huge group of orcs outside the wall. Then only a few seconds later he is running up the steps into the keep. Sure, this could be explained by off screen actions, but it seemed odd to me.
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Originally posted by agilliland
Ok, I think I have what could be a real continuity error. In the battle at Helm Deep there is a scene after the Elf commander dies where Aragorn gets angry and grabs the top of one of the ladders and pushes it over onto a bunch of orcs while riding it. What seemed strange about this is that the ladders would only be on the outside of the wall, and therefore Aragorn was throwing himself into a huge group of orcs outside the wall. Then only a few seconds later he is running up the steps into the keep. Sure, this could be explained by off screen actions, but it seemed odd to me.
Ok, I think I have what could be a real continuity error. In the battle at Helm Deep there is a scene after the Elf commander dies where Aragorn gets angry and grabs the top of one of the ladders and pushes it over onto a bunch of orcs while riding it. What seemed strange about this is that the ladders would only be on the outside of the wall, and therefore Aragorn was throwing himself into a huge group of orcs outside the wall. Then only a few seconds later he is running up the steps into the keep. Sure, this could be explained by off screen actions, but it seemed odd to me.
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Re: Re: Continuity Errors in TTT?
Originally posted by filmerp
I noticed the switch of shots, but I was very willing to put up with it for the badass unbroken tracking shot of Gandalf falling through the crevaces!
I noticed the switch of shots, but I was very willing to put up with it for the badass unbroken tracking shot of Gandalf falling through the crevaces!
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Close to finishing reading TTT and came across something else. In the book Faramir says that Gandalf came to visit them while looking for ancient records. In FOTR we see Gandalf visiting an ancient city on a mountainside. Then in TTT Minas Tirith is in a valley split by a river. I assume in FOTR Gandalf was in Minas Tirith like Faramir implied in the book.
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Yes, The Fellowship of the Ring film actually shows Gandalf in Minas Tirith researching the origin of the One Ring. Peter Jackson points this out in the commentary track on the Extended Edition DVD. He and cohorts also say that they considered showing the titles of geographic locations on-screen to identify them but were afraid it might look too cheesy. In the book of FOTR, Gandalf mentions going to the archives of the citadel in Minas Tirith at the Council of Elrond. Also, Jackson states that about half of his movie of The Return of the King will take place in Minas Tirith.
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Originally posted by teplitsa
Close to finishing reading TTT and came across something else. In the book Faramir says that Gandalf came to visit them while looking for ancient records. In FOTR we see Gandalf visiting an ancient city on a mountainside. Then in TTT Minas Tirith is in a valley split by a river. I assume in FOTR Gandalf was in Minas Tirith like Faramir implied in the book.
Close to finishing reading TTT and came across something else. In the book Faramir says that Gandalf came to visit them while looking for ancient records. In FOTR we see Gandalf visiting an ancient city on a mountainside. Then in TTT Minas Tirith is in a valley split by a river. I assume in FOTR Gandalf was in Minas Tirith like Faramir implied in the book.
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Part of the problem is the fact that this movie (the one we saw at the cinema) was NOT the version that's meant to be TTT. Like LOTR, this version is a cut version.
When you, as a director, realise that there will be two or more versions, which do you film? The whole "finished product" as the director intends or a "completed" film that is perfectly seamless after editting.
Sure, some of the continuity errors ARE errors, but a lot of them are scenes cut for time (for the theatrical release) that will be reinstated for the EE of the DVD.
Even now, I've heard rumors that after all three films are released (and finally out on DVD) there may be an additional set in the works that's 16 - 18 hours long (although from the commentry PJ has said that there was no scouring of the shire filmed). If that's the case, then some of the errors in the EE may actually become null and void after the "definitive" cut.
Ultimately, if you have a perfectly seamless 2 1/2 hour theatrical release and then go onto release a 3 1/2 hour version of the same thing, then the extra hour CAN be considered filler and not integral to the movie.
Me - I'm happy to put up with a few more continuity errors (at the theatrical release) if it means that the EE version of the DVD is a more "complete" version and the extra material isn't just added filler.
When you, as a director, realise that there will be two or more versions, which do you film? The whole "finished product" as the director intends or a "completed" film that is perfectly seamless after editting.
Sure, some of the continuity errors ARE errors, but a lot of them are scenes cut for time (for the theatrical release) that will be reinstated for the EE of the DVD.
Even now, I've heard rumors that after all three films are released (and finally out on DVD) there may be an additional set in the works that's 16 - 18 hours long (although from the commentry PJ has said that there was no scouring of the shire filmed). If that's the case, then some of the errors in the EE may actually become null and void after the "definitive" cut.
Ultimately, if you have a perfectly seamless 2 1/2 hour theatrical release and then go onto release a 3 1/2 hour version of the same thing, then the extra hour CAN be considered filler and not integral to the movie.
Me - I'm happy to put up with a few more continuity errors (at the theatrical release) if it means that the EE version of the DVD is a more "complete" version and the extra material isn't just added filler.
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Originally posted by naughty jonny
Part of the problem is the fact that this movie (the one we saw at the cinema) was NOT the version that's meant to be TTT. Like LOTR, this version is a cut version.
When you, as a director, realise that there will be two or more versions, which do you film? The whole "finished product" as the director intends or a "completed" film that is perfectly seamless after editting.
Sure, some of the continuity errors ARE errors, but a lot of them are scenes cut for time (for the theatrical release) that will be reinstated for the EE of the DVD.
Even now, I've heard rumors that after all three films are released (and finally out on DVD) there may be an additional set in the works that's 16 - 18 hours long (although from the commentry PJ has said that there was no scouring of the shire filmed). If that's the case, then some of the errors in the EE may actually become null and void after the "definitive" cut.
Ultimately, if you have a perfectly seamless 2 1/2 hour theatrical release and then go onto release a 3 1/2 hour version of the same thing, then the extra hour CAN be considered filler and not integral to the movie.
Me - I'm happy to put up with a few more continuity errors (at the theatrical release) if it means that the EE version of the DVD is a more "complete" version and the extra material isn't just added filler.
Part of the problem is the fact that this movie (the one we saw at the cinema) was NOT the version that's meant to be TTT. Like LOTR, this version is a cut version.
When you, as a director, realise that there will be two or more versions, which do you film? The whole "finished product" as the director intends or a "completed" film that is perfectly seamless after editting.
Sure, some of the continuity errors ARE errors, but a lot of them are scenes cut for time (for the theatrical release) that will be reinstated for the EE of the DVD.
Even now, I've heard rumors that after all three films are released (and finally out on DVD) there may be an additional set in the works that's 16 - 18 hours long (although from the commentry PJ has said that there was no scouring of the shire filmed). If that's the case, then some of the errors in the EE may actually become null and void after the "definitive" cut.
Ultimately, if you have a perfectly seamless 2 1/2 hour theatrical release and then go onto release a 3 1/2 hour version of the same thing, then the extra hour CAN be considered filler and not integral to the movie.
Me - I'm happy to put up with a few more continuity errors (at the theatrical release) if it means that the EE version of the DVD is a more "complete" version and the extra material isn't just added filler.
Last edited by Giles; 01-16-03 at 09:22 AM.