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"R" rating??. The rating on the back of my dvd has 14a on it. Maybe the Canadian rating is different than the US.
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I want to see this one, too.
Moving to <b>Movie Talk Forum</b>. - David Stein |
I agree with adamblast, the ending had too many switcheroos going on for my taste.
Indy, your explanation makes sense but I didn't get any of that from the movie. |
Indy, your explanation makes sense but I didn't get any of that from the movie Oh, and BTW, yes I did think Frailty was a little too predictable but I thoroughly enjoyed it. :) |
Re: Frailty-Fantastic!!!!
Originally posted by Berkowitz How did it get a "R" rating??? The subject matter was dark, but there was no actual gore or images of gore. The most blood was the son's hands after digging. Spoiler:
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Very good film. One of the better thrillers of recent years.
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the graves can't probably be seen but i'm sure after that long somebody would of tripped on them by now. plus, in a public place, dogs would be sniffing and digging around all the time. there was this scene also when adam and fenton were watching a show and one character said to the other "god doesn't force people to do anything, he gave us free will". or something like that. so i don't believe adam's work was god's work. without coffins the rose garden would stink way too much for anyone not to notice somethings not right. all in all the movie was easy to predict. At least with Seven, spacey's character showed up near the end and was really powerful. this fell flat after you knew five minutes into the movie that matthew or adam was the killer going to kill powers booth. nothing mattered after. still a good movie but nowhere near a "two thumbs way up" that ebert gave it.
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Originally posted by sinister nowhere near a "two thumbs way up" that ebert gave it. And yes, C.H.U.D., I was very much "torn" over something as insignificant as my rating. I'm not "worried" about it, but I'm undecided. Perhaps you interpreted "torn" as more severe. Anyhoo, I've decided to go with the 6 because the longer the film's had to set in, the less I've come to think there was much worthwhile about it. Yeah, and enjoyed much of it, but it was definitely way too predictable, the plot didn't do much at all for me, and I was never fascinated by any of the characters. |
I liked the movie but it would've been better if at the end, it didn't really show the audience that "someone was protecting them and not getting caught". It would've been better if it was left to the audience to decide whether they were really seeing the visions or if they were just psycho's.
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I actually liked it that at the end they showed that someone was really protecting them. I would never have even considered that possibility if they hadn't shown that, and then wondered if the visions were fake or real.
As for predictability--I pretty much knew that the brothers were switched and that the FBI agent was a "demon." I didn't know that the visions were real or that the older boy had turned into a serial killer too. (I really like Indy Jones Fan's interpretation of that--it all makes sense. Much better than "the shock of it all drove him crazy" theory I had while watching the film. The idea that he was a demon all along, though innocent as a child, really fits in with the way the visions and God's protection turned out to be real. tasha |
What's interesting is that I saw it in the theater earlier this year and then on dvd a few days ago, the second time you watch it is like watching a completely different movie
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You actually learn that The FBI agent is a demon right away, because Adam doesn't sake his hand when the FBI offers it, he just hands him the picture.
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Samuel,
Here are my thoughts on the movie that I posted in the other Frailty thread. See if any of it makes sense in regards to your question. Spoiler:
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I wasn't going to even give this one a rent. With fellow DVDtalkers giving it good reviews, I think I'll give it a try! :)
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this movie was selling at my local walmart for $13.84 and for that price, i figured i'd try it out. what a great movie!!! -eek- like some of you, i could kinda of see how the movie was going but it was the best horror/suspense movie that i've ever seen especially given the major lack of blood and gore.
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Saw it for the first time the other night and I loved it. Great movie and its the type that stays with you for a few days.
Very disturbing movie to watch at times but you get a great pay off. Funny, but I thought it was better and more effective than signs. What kind of business did this movie due and when was it in theatres? I am going to buy it. |
I dont know how this one got away in the theatre. One of the best movies Ive seen this year and I loved the ending. I saw some things coming but it was much better than most thriller movies that Hollywood cranks out these days, even Shamlans. His last two movies were contrived and overdone to me.
Paxton did a great job here and I help it finds more of an audience on DVD. Interestijng to find out from the commentary that Paxton showed the film to James Cameron and he suggested some things for editing. Isnstead of showing what is seen when the demons are touched when he is touching them, he suggested saving it for the end. |
Great film...Three thumbs up!!! :D
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You guys are all so right! :up:
Am I crazy to think that this movie should be considered come Oscar time? Not necessarily for Best Picture, but maybe a few others (Director, Screenplay, Cinematography, even Supporting Actor -- the kid who played Fenton was amazing). |
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tha part that freaked me out was when
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I jumped. |
I just watched Frailty and I thought it was just plain excelent, best movie I've seen in a long time. I always kinda liked Bill Paxon but he did a heluva directing job.
But one thing that has me wondering is... Spoiler:
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Originally posted by necros I just watched Frailty and I thought it was just plain excelent, best movie I've seen in a long time. I always kinda liked Bill Paxon but he did a heluva directing job. But one thing that has me wondering is... Spoiler:
That was the story he was telling the FBI guy... |
Originally posted by d2cheer That was the story he was telling the FBI guy... You beat me too it. :) |
I watched this one last night and was disappointed. I expected an extremely dark, intense horror/thriller. For some reason, Bill Paxton's performance (both as actor & director) was unsatisfying, and much of the plot was unoriginal and predictable. It seemed like the movie wanted to be "The Shining" but couldn't equal the pacing and atmosphere of that film.
Also, Bill Paxton clearly needs to hone his directing chops. One shot of the son running down the street, for example, was unintentionally funny and distracted from the tone of the movie. If I had to grade it, I'd give this one 2-2.5 stars out of 4, but expecting a 3+ or better. Rent but don't buy!!! |
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