What's with your attitude? You get your panties in a jumble just because someone has a different point of view. This is a forum and you subject yourself to ridicule especially if you haven't backed up your point of view. ----scratch that. Forget it. I'm tired of this. I'm out.


bjh_18 he's all yours. :D

My sentiments exactly.

Sure sounds like name calling to me. I wasn't belittling anyone. I never called anyone out by name, as some have done, and I never used any derogatory remarks about anyone. Again, all I was saying is that I can't understand why anyone would prefer a dubbed version over the original language, especially to the point of refusing to watch and/or buy a movie simply because there was no dubbed version. So if there is anyone who would like to bring some facts and opinions to the table on that, it would be greatly welcome.

I never said anything about all dubs being bad. While I think the practice of dubbing is negative, I never said a dub couldn't be fairly well done. I have several friends who never knew "Brotherhood of the Wolf" was dubbed, and they had watched it several times before I told them. I thought it was absolutely terrible, but I had seen it in it's original language. But clearly some dubs are good enough to make some people not even realize it. And I never said that anyone has an inferior mind set because they enjoy a dub. Again, and I guess I have to continue to repeat myself, I'm talking about only watching something if it is dubbed, not choosing to simply watch something with a dubbed track. I'm just asking for the reasoning behind it.

And for that sir, I will appologize. As I initial read through the thread, your posts were so heated that I mixed up who wrote exactly what. That question should have been directed to this post:

I do think it's pretty weak not to want to back up one's opinion with one example of a
"good dub" to support their postion.....then to revert to the "I don't have to" approach makes their position suspect.

Now that wasn't really necessary. I'm not wanting a petty argument. I'm just trying to understand a point of view that I don't see any benefits for.

Oh really?

Well then, allow me to highlight the comments that do so:

- I find it hilarious that there are people who relentlessly defend a practice that's pretty much universally despised by film buffs the world over.

- I can't comprehend how anyone who really loves film would actually want a dubbed track

Those comments are the very definition of belittling. As is the inclusion you made of those who fit the above bill with your so called, "Joe six pack" (everyday average guy who doesn't know better). Those are insulting sir and is why I reacted the way I did in my reply to you.

I'm sorry, and I'm sure you didn't mean so, but that's an oxymoron.

Is it possible for you to accept that perhaps there are many people that are able to simply enjoy the experience of watching a dub that is well made because a well made dub could give them a more enjoyable experience than watching said film subtitled?

Think of it as the reverse of what mrhan said of those old martial arts films dubs. Whereas he said those dubs were "so bad they're good" then perhaps someone can see a well made dub as simply "so good it's good". :)

Apology accepted. :)

Sorry about that. I hope you accept my apology. :)

Ok, wow, you just can't let things go and discuss the actual topic.

I do find it hilarious because I don't understand where that point of view is coming from, and I asked for clarification of that from someone with that point of view. And the second quote has exactly the same meaning. I really can't comprehend that, so again, I'm just asking for someone to explain their point of view on it. And as for my "so called 'Joe six pack,'" that is a phrase that is used quite often on this board and elsewhere to discuss people who are not as well-versed in the facts or just don't care about them.

No, it's not an oxymoron. One dub can be better than another, and there can be certain dubs that are fairly well done, and by well done I mean that some people aren't able to tell they are a dub (see my example with "Brotherhood of the Wolf"). But I think dubbing in general is a bad thing to do and that's bad for the movie. The recording might be fine, and the voice actors might do well, but the practice of dubbing itself is something I don't agree with.

I never said that I couldn't accept that many people may enjoy a dubbed movie, all I want to know is why they enjoy it over the original language. If it's just because, then say it's just because. There are many different kinds of people who like many different things, and for those who want a dub over the original language, I'd just like to know the reasons behind that, if there are any.



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Accepted with open arms.

bjh 18,
If you really want to discuss the subject further then let's do it over PM. This back and forth stuff on this thread has bored me really and is just harming the thread I think.

If not, then let's just end it here okay? :)

Agreed. It's a trivial thing anyway, so let's call it a truce and move on.

Good show old chap, good show. :thumbsup: