One & Only Yourmusic.com Thread I (BMG R.I.P.)
06-16-11, 04:17 PM
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I missed the one I had in my cart. Steve Winwood last Greatest Hits CD. Oh well... I may give their site one last look. People get the Billy Idol Hits CD with DVD. $7.98 is an awesome price for it.
06-16-11, 11:30 PM
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My last few orders have been backordered and canceled, so I don't have much hope that the order I placed today will actually be fulfilled
06-17-11, 04:59 AM
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Nightwish
Made In Hong Kong (And In Various Other Places) (1 CD/1 Bonus DVD) 1 $3.99
Roadrunner United
The All Star Sessions (1CD/ 1 Bonus DVD) 1 $3.99
Soulfly
Omen 1 $3.99
Cynic
Focus (Remastered) 1 $3.99
06-18-11, 08:54 AM
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Right back at you. I actually was on the fence about that one because apparently the special edition came with a full live show. However, I figured for $3.99, I could always upgrade at some point. Plus, I wasn't that optimistic I was getting it anyway.
06-19-11, 06:33 AM
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I can't find a thing. If you don't have the Bowie Stage yet, $8 is a great price.
06-19-11, 09:26 AM
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I'm primarily a jazzer, but I've been through all the listings 2-3 times and could only find 2 CDs of (moderate/above average) interest. My farewell purchase is The Three Sounds' Soul Symphony and Elegant Soul. I kinda doubt they'll have a run of stock on those two.
It's been a good run between this and BMG. I've built a nice chunk of my collection from their listings over the years and saved a lot of $$. I'm going to miss them.
It's been a good run between this and BMG. I've built a nice chunk of my collection from their listings over the years and saved a lot of $$. I'm going to miss them.
06-19-11, 10:36 AM
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BTW, I'm assuming it's still there - but after you buy you get a pop up for mag subscriptions via bizrate at $1.00 to $2.00 per year. I got EW for $2.00 and Time for $2.00 and I would often buy a BMG CD just to get to that offer. Sadly that will go too! Anyone want to guess if they will get down to $1.99 ??
06-21-11, 01:16 PM
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Interesting article on the business behind music clubs:
http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/91126
It’s a Steal! How Columbia House Made Money Giving Away Music
by Ethan Trex - June 21, 2011 - 1:32 PM
If you grew up in the pre-MP3 era, chances are you had at least one go-round as a member of Columbia House’s mail-order music club. Who could turn down the allure of eight compact discs (or 11 record albums or cassette tapes) for just a penny? It would be stupid not to join up! A few months of automatic shipments later, you probably ended up like a lot of members did: as a no-income 14-year-old who owed Columbia House $47 for unwanted Sir Mix-a-Lot CDs. Let’s take a look at a few lingering questions about the music club.
How did the Columbia House business model work?
The underlying model for Columbia House was a pretty simple setup known as negative option billing. Basically, once you sign up for a membership in a club or service, you start getting monthly shipments unless you expressly tell the club you don’t want them. Of course, you also get the bill. Negative option billing has actually been illegal in Ontario since 2005, but it’s still legal in the United States. There are a few caveats, though. The Federal Trade Commission requires that any club or service offering a negative option plan must clearly and conspicuously indicate minimum purchase obligations, cancellation procedures, the frequency with which members must reject shipments, and how to eventually cancel a membership when they enroll new members. The FTC really drops the hammer on any company that doesn’t comply with these regulations. In 2009 it reached a $1 million settlement with the online company Commerce Planet, which had been offering a “free” online auction kit while also signing customers up for a recurring $59.95 “online supplier” program.
How did Columbia House make any money while giving away so much music?
Columbia House and competitor BMG brought in a tons of gross revenue — as late as 2000, the two companies were grossing $1.5 billion a year. But even with negative option billing bringing in cash from club members who forgot to return their rejection forms, Columbia House operated on a seemingly tight margin.
Columbia House and BMG had some fairly clever ways to save cash, though. Until 2006, the record companies had never actually secured written licenses to distribute the records it sent to club members. Instead, the clubs saved the hassle (and the expense) by paying most publishers 75% of the standard royalties set by copyright law. The clubs argued that since the publishers were cashing their discounted checks, they were submitting to “implied” licenses.
Music publishers didn’t love this arrangement, but for decades it was pretty tough to fight back against the mail-order clubs. As some of the biggest pre-Internet retailers, the clubs held enormous power over the music market. According to a 2006 Billboard article, if a publisher complained, the clubs would simply stop carrying their records.
On top of that, the clubs generally weren’t buying their records from labels and then selling them. Instead, the clubs would acquire the master tapes of records and press their own copies on the cheap. Moreover, remember those “bonus” or “free” records you got for signing up for the clubs? The clubs generally didn’t pay any royalties at all on those, which further slashed their costs. In the end, all these little factors saved a ton of money. In his 2004 book The Recording Industry, Geoffrey P. Hull took a look at the economics of the clubs. He estimated that the cost to the clubs of a “free” disc was only around $1.50, while a disc sold at full price cost the club anywhere from $3.20 to $5.50. Hull did the math and realized that even if only one of every three discs a club distributed sold at the $16 list price, the club would still end up making a margin of around $7.20 on each sold disc. Hull explains that retail stores were hard pressed to make a margin of even $6.50 per sold disc, so it’s easy to see how the clubs stayed afloat even with their massive marketing and advertising costs.
Did anyone really, really take advantage of those introductory offers?
Joseph Parvin of Lawrenceville, NJ, was undoubtedly the patron saint of anyone who ever wanted to stick it to a music club for receiving an unwanted record.
In March 2000, the 60-year-old Parvin admitted that he had used 16 post office boxes and his own home address to fleece Columbia House and BMG out of 26,554 discs during a five-year span in the ’90s. He pleaded guilty to a single count of mail fraud.
Oddly, the New York Times story on Parvin’s plea included a story of another scammer who was nearly as prolific. Just five months earlier, David Russo pleaded guilty to stockpiling 22,000 CDs using a similar scheme. He then sold the booty at flea markets.
What about Columbia House’s old rival, BMG?
This may come as a shock to your circa-1994 self, but Columbia House and BMG are part of the same company now. In 2002 Columbia House’s then-owners, Sony and AOL Time Warner, sold a majority stake of the company to the Blackstone Group. (Sony and AOL maintained a 15 percent share between them.) In 2005, Blackstone again flipped Columbia House to the German media giant Bertelsmann, the owner of BMG, for a reported $400 million. After a series of further transactions, Columbia House is now situated in the portfolio of Direct Brands, Inc., a direct marketer whose other holdings include the Book-of-the-Month Club.
Can I still order music from Columbia House?
You’re about two years too late. The merged version of Columbia House and BMG, the BMG Music Group, quit selling music on June 30, 2009. (Apparently digital music wasn’t just some silly fad.) Direct Brands still operates a business under the Columbia House name, but don’t expect the latest music to show up at your door. The revamped company sells DVDs and Blu-Ray discs.
http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/91126
It’s a Steal! How Columbia House Made Money Giving Away Music
by Ethan Trex - June 21, 2011 - 1:32 PM
If you grew up in the pre-MP3 era, chances are you had at least one go-round as a member of Columbia House’s mail-order music club. Who could turn down the allure of eight compact discs (or 11 record albums or cassette tapes) for just a penny? It would be stupid not to join up! A few months of automatic shipments later, you probably ended up like a lot of members did: as a no-income 14-year-old who owed Columbia House $47 for unwanted Sir Mix-a-Lot CDs. Let’s take a look at a few lingering questions about the music club.
How did the Columbia House business model work?
The underlying model for Columbia House was a pretty simple setup known as negative option billing. Basically, once you sign up for a membership in a club or service, you start getting monthly shipments unless you expressly tell the club you don’t want them. Of course, you also get the bill. Negative option billing has actually been illegal in Ontario since 2005, but it’s still legal in the United States. There are a few caveats, though. The Federal Trade Commission requires that any club or service offering a negative option plan must clearly and conspicuously indicate minimum purchase obligations, cancellation procedures, the frequency with which members must reject shipments, and how to eventually cancel a membership when they enroll new members. The FTC really drops the hammer on any company that doesn’t comply with these regulations. In 2009 it reached a $1 million settlement with the online company Commerce Planet, which had been offering a “free” online auction kit while also signing customers up for a recurring $59.95 “online supplier” program.
How did Columbia House make any money while giving away so much music?
Columbia House and competitor BMG brought in a tons of gross revenue — as late as 2000, the two companies were grossing $1.5 billion a year. But even with negative option billing bringing in cash from club members who forgot to return their rejection forms, Columbia House operated on a seemingly tight margin.
Columbia House and BMG had some fairly clever ways to save cash, though. Until 2006, the record companies had never actually secured written licenses to distribute the records it sent to club members. Instead, the clubs saved the hassle (and the expense) by paying most publishers 75% of the standard royalties set by copyright law. The clubs argued that since the publishers were cashing their discounted checks, they were submitting to “implied” licenses.
Music publishers didn’t love this arrangement, but for decades it was pretty tough to fight back against the mail-order clubs. As some of the biggest pre-Internet retailers, the clubs held enormous power over the music market. According to a 2006 Billboard article, if a publisher complained, the clubs would simply stop carrying their records.
On top of that, the clubs generally weren’t buying their records from labels and then selling them. Instead, the clubs would acquire the master tapes of records and press their own copies on the cheap. Moreover, remember those “bonus” or “free” records you got for signing up for the clubs? The clubs generally didn’t pay any royalties at all on those, which further slashed their costs. In the end, all these little factors saved a ton of money. In his 2004 book The Recording Industry, Geoffrey P. Hull took a look at the economics of the clubs. He estimated that the cost to the clubs of a “free” disc was only around $1.50, while a disc sold at full price cost the club anywhere from $3.20 to $5.50. Hull did the math and realized that even if only one of every three discs a club distributed sold at the $16 list price, the club would still end up making a margin of around $7.20 on each sold disc. Hull explains that retail stores were hard pressed to make a margin of even $6.50 per sold disc, so it’s easy to see how the clubs stayed afloat even with their massive marketing and advertising costs.
Did anyone really, really take advantage of those introductory offers?
Joseph Parvin of Lawrenceville, NJ, was undoubtedly the patron saint of anyone who ever wanted to stick it to a music club for receiving an unwanted record.
In March 2000, the 60-year-old Parvin admitted that he had used 16 post office boxes and his own home address to fleece Columbia House and BMG out of 26,554 discs during a five-year span in the ’90s. He pleaded guilty to a single count of mail fraud.
Oddly, the New York Times story on Parvin’s plea included a story of another scammer who was nearly as prolific. Just five months earlier, David Russo pleaded guilty to stockpiling 22,000 CDs using a similar scheme. He then sold the booty at flea markets.
What about Columbia House’s old rival, BMG?
This may come as a shock to your circa-1994 self, but Columbia House and BMG are part of the same company now. In 2002 Columbia House’s then-owners, Sony and AOL Time Warner, sold a majority stake of the company to the Blackstone Group. (Sony and AOL maintained a 15 percent share between them.) In 2005, Blackstone again flipped Columbia House to the German media giant Bertelsmann, the owner of BMG, for a reported $400 million. After a series of further transactions, Columbia House is now situated in the portfolio of Direct Brands, Inc., a direct marketer whose other holdings include the Book-of-the-Month Club.
Can I still order music from Columbia House?
You’re about two years too late. The merged version of Columbia House and BMG, the BMG Music Group, quit selling music on June 30, 2009. (Apparently digital music wasn’t just some silly fad.) Direct Brands still operates a business under the Columbia House name, but don’t expect the latest music to show up at your door. The revamped company sells DVDs and Blu-Ray discs.
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Holy crap. I had just about given up hope on my backorder from 5/31 and it shipped today. Don't cancel your backorders. Ride them out and hopefully you'll also get lucky!
06-21-11, 09:51 PM
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I just got a cancellation notice for 1 of the 2 items I ordered 6/18. They referred to the item as "backordered" and indicated they wouldn't be able to obtain the title.
06-22-11, 07:29 AM
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New deal is Buy One Get One Free. I wouldn't take a chance to get two CD's for $3.49 each. The "Get One Free" will probably be backordered/cancelled, resulting in a $6.99 CD.
06-22-11, 09:18 PM
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I received my latest order, a Rivers Cuomo CD. In fact, some artists and albums that weren't available last week are now back in stock.
06-23-11, 08:52 PM
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I noticed a lot of metal in stock, some titles I hadn't seen before. Very strange business model for a "going out of business" sale.
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06-24-11, 09:26 PM
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Re: One & Only Yourmusic.com Thread I (BMG R.I.P.)
It must be my lucky day. I received the 4 disc order today (w/soulfly) and my Radiohead backorder. Hope you get your stuff soon!
06-24-11, 11:59 PM
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Back to $3.99. 4+ days to go.
06-25-11, 11:38 AM
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Nope. I just tried it this morning and the prices of the albums in my cart stayed at $6.99. Hopefully this gets rectified before the 29th. I'd like to place an order before the club closes up shop.