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Old 07-08-23, 10:58 AM
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Shin Ultraman - a flawed Blu-ray release

My copy of Shin Ultraman got here a little early.



Everything you've heard about the subtitles is true. There's only one subtitle stream, and it's treated like an SDH track, captioning sound effects and the like. The Japanese text at the beginning of the film is not translated. And, yeah, there's definitely HTML code in the subtitles.





Despite Shin Ultraman's nearly two hour runtime, the video and audio for the movie itself only take up 19 gigs, and the whole thing is crammed onto a single layer disc. All three soundtracks are lossy and DVD-quality. Here's a BDInfo scan:



Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Label: SHIN ULTRAMAN BD
Disc Size: 23,481,559,994 bytes
Protection: AACS
BDInfo: 0.7.5.6

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00001.MPLS
Length: 1:52:29.159 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 20,474,363,904 bytes
Total Bitrate: 24.27 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 21777 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Dolby Digital Audio Japanese 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -31dB
Dolby Digital Audio English 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -31dB
Dolby Digital Audio English 448 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -31dB

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 28.241 kbps

FILES:

Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
---- ------- ------ ---- -------------
00001.M2TS 0:00:00.000 1:52:29.159 20,474,363,904 24,269

CHAPTERS:

Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time
------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- --------------
1 0:00:00.000 0:00:37.370 18,423 kbps 54,568 kbps 00:00:14.389 32,616 kbps 00:00:14.389 25,634 kbps 00:00:09.926 95,941 bytes 514,756 bytes 00:00:35.452
2 0:00:37.370 0:09:11.550 22,280 kbps 55,515 kbps 00:03:33.880 32,724 kbps 00:01:56.366 29,500 kbps 00:00:51.426 116,160 bytes 914,421 bytes 00:02:27.939
3 0:09:48.921 0:05:57.690 21,983 kbps 53,172 kbps 00:11:34.485 32,451 kbps 00:13:55.417 27,787 kbps 00:13:55.417 114,609 bytes 746,333 bytes 00:14:41.547
4 0:15:46.612 0:06:06.699 21,974 kbps 50,865 kbps 00:18:20.182 30,679 kbps 00:18:20.182 26,362 kbps 00:18:20.182 114,561 bytes 918,027 bytes 00:18:20.224
5 0:21:53.311 0:07:23.109 22,005 kbps 53,787 kbps 00:23:20.816 29,964 kbps 00:28:39.384 26,813 kbps 00:23:20.816 114,726 bytes 693,711 bytes 00:23:20.857
6 0:29:16.421 0:08:31.260 21,985 kbps 53,841 kbps 00:36:29.312 32,323 kbps 00:36:29.395 29,660 kbps 00:36:29.395 114,611 bytes 770,454 bytes 00:31:39.063
7 0:37:47.682 0:06:20.296 21,827 kbps 55,424 kbps 00:39:51.806 32,728 kbps 00:39:20.691 29,776 kbps 00:42:06.232 113,807 bytes 830,078 bytes 00:41:01.667
8 0:44:07.978 0:07:01.754 22,120 kbps 55,412 kbps 00:44:22.368 32,558 kbps 00:49:54.908 29,641 kbps 00:44:22.368 115,326 bytes 649,268 bytes 00:47:25.634
9 0:51:09.733 0:08:32.512 21,981 kbps 55,318 kbps 00:52:13.296 32,756 kbps 00:55:39.669 29,693 kbps 00:55:01.756 114,599 bytes 755,081 bytes 00:55:24.612
10 0:59:42.245 0:09:20.560 22,055 kbps 53,234 kbps 01:03:33.184 32,509 kbps 01:03:33.184 29,724 kbps 01:03:33.184 114,987 bytes 730,317 bytes 01:08:21.472
11 1:09:02.805 0:08:48.527 21,988 kbps 54,055 kbps 01:11:31.870 30,438 kbps 01:11:54.977 27,272 kbps 01:11:54.476 114,637 bytes 726,262 bytes 01:13:16.016
12 1:17:51.333 0:07:44.463 22,003 kbps 53,159 kbps 01:21:15.871 32,526 kbps 01:22:31.571 29,734 kbps 01:22:31.529 114,715 bytes 835,159 bytes 01:21:59.873
13 1:25:35.797 0:06:08.368 22,009 kbps 49,855 kbps 01:26:26.639 28,675 kbps 01:26:42.822 26,054 kbps 01:26:38.860 114,746 bytes 655,015 bytes 01:26:42.864
14 1:31:44.165 0:07:19.188 21,902 kbps 54,224 kbps 01:33:45.369 32,737 kbps 01:36:47.176 29,752 kbps 01:33:45.369 114,175 bytes 791,161 bytes 01:35:24.969
15 1:39:03.354 0:08:27.173 22,105 kbps 54,210 kbps 01:39:16.033 32,588 kbps 01:39:16.033 29,745 kbps 01:39:16.033 115,248 bytes 925,121 bytes 01:43:39.004
16 1:47:30.527 0:04:58.631 16,900 kbps 36,379 kbps 01:51:32.394 32,130 kbps 01:51:30.934 29,484 kbps 01:50:58.485 88,131 bytes 496,690 bytes 01:50:11.062

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets
---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -----
00001.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 6749.076 21,777 18,371,715,720 99,940,959
00001.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x81 AC3 jpn (Japanese) 6749.076 448 377,948,928 2,109,090
00001.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x81 AC3 eng (English) 6749.076 448 377,948,928 2,109,090
00001.M2TS 4354 (0x1102) 0x81 AC3 eng (English) 6749.076 448 377,948,928 2,109,090
00001.M2TS 4608 (0x1200) 0x90 PGS eng (English) 6749.076 28 23,825,701 142,488


So here's hoping for a better release elsewhere. I'm not sure if Raven Banner's Canadian rights extent to home video, but if they do, I'll definitely be importing that.
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Re: Shin Ultraman - a flawed Blu-ray release

Only semi-related, but my favorite Aloha shirt company, Reyn's, which makes expensive but top quality shirts that literally last decades just came out with a limited-edition Ultraman shirt. I passed on it as I already have Godzilla one. But it's pretty cool for ulta fans.
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Re: Shin Ultraman - a flawed Blu-ray release

That does look really great!
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Re: Shin Ultraman - a flawed Blu-ray release

Never expect much from a Cleopatra release, which is really a vanity project for a music label out of L.A. They almost never release lossless audio on BD, even for music releases like concerts. They are fine handling cheap indie horror if you don't expect much in the way of A/V quality.
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Re: Shin Ultraman - a flawed Blu-ray release

Was so much looking forward to this.
Lossy is disappointing, but the subs being so f'ed up is, or should be, a complete deal killer.
I don't know if I can handle that nonsense over the coarse of the entire film.

Such a shame.
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Re: Shin Ultraman - a flawed Blu-ray release

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Only semi-related, but my favorite Aloha shirt company, Reyn's, which makes expensive but top quality shirts that literally last decades just came out with a limited-edition Ultraman shirt.
Just so you know, I did buy this, and it's all your fault!
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Is this a one off or is this company also licensing shin Kamen Rider?

This makes me sad, though, I missed it in the theater and was waiting for this release. Is there a digital release (that is hopefully better than this?)
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Re: Shin Ultraman - a flawed Blu-ray release

What a fiasco. Thanks for the heads up.

I had a stack of Prime Video credits with Amazon, so I think I'm just gonna go with the digital version until they sort this all out. (If they do anything at all.)
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Re: Shin Ultraman - a flawed Blu-ray release

Originally Posted by fujishig
Is this a one off or is this company also licensing shin Kamen Rider?
It's unclear which home video label (if any?) will pick up Shin Kamen Rider. Amazon gobbled up the streaming rights for Shin Kamen Rider for most of the world, and it's unclear how exclusive that might be. Like, if they have physical rights too that they'll never use, if ubiquitous streaming makes it unappealing for a label to license, etc. The Exchange was the sales agent for Shin Ultraman, and I don't remember reading about who's representing Shin Kamen Rider in the U.S.
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Word must be getting out about the blu ray problems.
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Re: Shin Ultraman - a flawed Blu-ray release

Courtesy of starsteam at blu-ray.com, here's info on the replacement program for Shin Ultraman. Send an email to [email protected] with the info listed below:

Thank you for your recent order for Shin Ultraman. We are aware of the English subtitling issues and will have replacement discs available for both versions shortly.

Please include proof of purchase and version (Blu-ray or DVD). Make sure to include your full name and address in your reply as well. Once confirmed, we can send you a replacement disc.

Thank you for your patience and support. Please allow us 7-10 business days to process and send you your replacement disc.
I got a response already. The proof of purchase they want is a photo of the back of the DVD/Blu-ray case, not (just?) a receipt like I originally sent.
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Re: Shin Ultraman - a flawed Blu-ray release

I just got a shipping notification for my replacement disc.
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Re: Shin Ultraman - a flawed Blu-ray release

I got the replacement disc in today.

It's definitely not perfect. The audio is still lossy, and there's only one set of subtitles: SDH dubtitles, so the Japanese dialogue isn't being properly translated, plus you still see sound effects and such captioned. On the upside, the Japanese text at the beginning of the film is translated now, and the weird pipes and HTML are gone. And it's still all crammed onto a BD-25. I'd have preferred "great", but I'll settle for "better" and hope for a more definitive release from another English-speaking country.



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I'm still curious, the streaming sub has to be just as bad, right? Otherwise why not just use that?
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How's the aloha shirt?
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How's the aloha shirt?
I haven't worn it out yet, but it looks and fits amazing!
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Re: Shin Ultraman - a flawed Blu-ray release

Just saw this in theatre and really loved it. Hoping there's more clarity on subtitles issue in future as it's definitely one I want a physical copy of to face off with my Shin Godzilla BR.
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Re: Shin Ultraman - a flawed Blu-ray release

Update on the 3rd version of Shin Ultraman. As a reminder, you can only get this if you buy a new copy (guaranteed only through Cleopatra directly) or if you haven't already gotten a replacement disc, which is dumb:


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Re: Shin Ultraman - a flawed Blu-ray release

Raven Bannerís preorder is up. Ships next month.



Raven Banner's release of Shin Ultraman features an Exclusive O-Card, all-new English subtitles, a new video master on BD50, plus exclusive commentary by Alex Rushdy (director of Dawn of the Monsters) and Kevin Derendorf (author of Kaiju for Hipsters), as well as a video introduction by Alex Rushdy.
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BD via Hong Kong (Neofilms) | Language: Japanese / Subtitles: English, Traditional Chinese
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https://www.yesasia.com/global/shin-...0-en/info.html

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I waited on this and now it looks like I have a choice of 4 different versions. I like Raven Banner's artwork but Cleopatra's subtitle description sounds good. Now I'm torn.
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Appears I can't even get a buck for these.

Does anyone want these codes that like Ultraman? I don't know if they are expired or not but worth a shot if you want to try.

If so PM and they are yours.

(Please note that it appears you have to watch the Ultraman sets on the movieSPREE app)
Ultraman: Ultra Q Complete Series (from Blu-Ray release)
Ultraman: Ultraman Complete Series (from Blu-Ray release)
Ultraman: Ultra Seven Complete Series (from Blu-Ray release)

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Shin Ultraman is streaming for free on YouTube since April 4 (powered by Chicken Soup for the Soul Entertainment)


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