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Old 08-28-22, 08:56 PM
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Brotherhood of the Wolf

Le Pacte des Loups (Brotherhood of the Wolf) is getting a cool looking steelbook / collector's edition 4K UHD BD on 10/21/2022:




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Re: Brotherhood of the Wolf

Link not working. Interested to see if there are English subs.
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Re: Brotherhood of the Wolf

Dunno what's up with the link so I just removed it. I've read that Metropolitan has had English subtitles on their other releases so I decided to roll the dice and pre-order this release.
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Re: Brotherhood of the Wolf

The Blu-ray looks like garbage, and I suspect that a lot of its problems may have been baked into the movie's original Digital Intermediate. This was one of the earliest productions to have a full end-to-end DI, when the process still had a lot of kinks to work out.

If this 4K edition is just upsampled from that original 2K DI, I would not expect much from it. I would definitely recommend waiting for reviews from reputable sources.
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Re: Brotherhood of the Wolf

If that Metropolitan release is the French import, it will not be English friendly.
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Originally Posted by Why So Blu? View Post
If that Metropolitan release is the French import, it will not be English friendly.
Was about to refute this until I confirmed my only Metropolitan French imports are their Blu-rays of Silent Hill and Crying Freeman. Well, at lest the French audio commentary of the former has English subtitles...
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Re: Brotherhood of the Wolf

My set just arrived. No English subtitles. In fact, no subtitles of any kind (not even French captions).

There's an interesting bit of text that plays before the actual movie. They talk about how the feature was one of the first films finalized in post-production in 2K back in 2001, and that this is a brand new 4K scan taken from the negative. It seems the SFX were also re-rendered in 4K. Also the new Dolby Atmos mix was created under the supervision of original sound designer Sébastien Prangère and original re-recording mixer Cyril Holtz. The whole restoration was also carried out under the supervision of director Christophe Gans.

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Also the new Dolby Atmos mix was created under the supervision of original sound designer Sébastien Prangère and original re-recording mixer Cyril Holtz.
The original mix was famous for its powerhouse bass, but the trend in sound design these days has been to dramatically reduce bass when remixing older movies. Hearing that this is a new Atmos mix actually leaves me a little concerned.
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The original mix was famous for its powerhouse bass, but the trend in sound design these days has been to dramatically reduce bass when remixing older movies. Hearing that this is a new Atmos mix actually leaves me a little concerned.
The bass seems plenty deep and loud to me but I no longer have the old DVD to compare. Sounds and looks great overall.
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Re: Brotherhood of the Wolf

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The original mix was famous for its powerhouse bass, but the trend in sound design these days has been to dramatically reduce bass when remixing older movies. Hearing that this is a new Atmos mix actually leaves me a little concerned.
Yep, home surround mixes these days sound aimed at soundbars with less powerful bass and smaller dynamics.
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Re: Brotherhood of the Wolf

Forgot to mention that in addition to a 4K UHD BD and BD of the main feature, and a book of storyboards, this set also includes three DVDs of special features.
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Re: Brotherhood of the Wolf

How can there be no English subs? Seems like such an easy thing to have.
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Re: Brotherhood of the Wolf

Oftentimes with French releases they're contractually prohibited from including English subs.
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Oftentimes with French releases they're contractually prohibited from including English subs.
Really? Why is that? To discourage competition with an eventual English-friendly release?
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Re: Brotherhood of the Wolf

I've really wanted to upgrade my dvd from universal but I guess I'll still be keeping it in my collection.
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Re: Brotherhood of the Wolf

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I've really wanted to upgrade my dvd from universal but I guess I'll still be keeping it in my collection.
Shout Factory had a decent blu ray release about a year or so ago.
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I know but heard the bluray was no good. Maybe they'll re-release it on 4k.

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Re: Brotherhood of the Wolf

It's a serviceable Blu-ray. This movie may never look great on home video, I think some of the problems were baked into the production.
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Re: Brotherhood of the Wolf

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger View Post
It's a serviceable Blu-ray. This movie may never look great on home video, I think some of the problems were baked into the production.
yeah, I saw the Shout! release not too long ago. It wasn’t the best, but certainly not the worst.

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Re: Brotherhood of the Wolf

If Shout! get their hands on the new 4K master that was made for the Metropolitan release, it should look great on an English subtitled 4K UHD BD.

Although in French, the following review has some nice screenshot comparisons of the 2008 StudioCanal BD, the 2022 Metropolitan BD, and the 2022 Metropolitan 4K UHD BD:

https://digitalcine.fr/4k-bluray-dvd...nheur-a-la-4k/

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