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Navy Seals had Charlie Sheen, Michael Biehn, Dennis Haysbert, Bill Paxton, and Rick Rossovich(Slider from Top Gun). That might be considered a "Star Studded" Action vehicle and I'd buy a Deluxe VS edition. :lol:
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NAVY SEALS does seem like a likely candidate, although it’s been perpetually available since it played theatrically, so even packed SE might take a while to move. When I first got that email about Orion, a couple of Chuck Norris movies came to mind but neither are overly “star-studded” (well, one kinda is) but both are already available on Blu, with supplements: CODE OF SILENCE and LONE WOLF McQUADE. Then again, knowing VS’s gift for hyperbole, the “stars” in their references to “star studded” aren’t always guaranteed to be present or former A-listers, so maybe we’ll get a super-deluxe slipped ‘n boxed edition of EVE OF DESTRUCTION, THE TAKING OF BEVERLY HILLS, THE SUBSTITUTE, UNDER FIRE, the F/X movies, SPEED ZONE (well, it is “star studded” even though it’s terrible :lol: ), LIONHEART (the Eric Stoltz flop), REMO WILLIAMS, or stuff like that. Although I’m pretty sure a bunch of those are already on Blu-ray from Kino and Shout and the like.
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And Michael Bein was on a recent episode of Michael Rosenbaum's podcast and trashed Navy Seals for a bit, so I doubt he'd even participate unless VS pays well enough for cast participation.
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I doubt Kevin Smith will notice if Vinegar Syndrome releases Navy Seals.
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Called it!
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I called it on Navy Seals!!
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It's gonna be Navy Seals, Dangerous Game, and that China O'Brien set. I already have the China set coming from Eureka. I see that Dangerous Game is only a BD restored from a 4K source. I'll take it for it being an Abel Ferrara film.
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I'm good with my $5 bargain bin Blu of Navy Seals. :lol:
I have $20 in points I was going to use towards China O'Brien, but I figured I might as well take advantage of the double points and order it without that, then just them during the sale in May. |
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Oh, and I'll be throwing in Goin' South, too.
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I think I re-watched Navy Seals for the 1st time in many years during the pandemic while it was on Prime video.
For the star power it had, it was a pretty forgettable movie IMO. Hardly worth a hefty premium price on physical media. |
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I think Clerks namedropping it did more for Navy Seals still being mentioned nowadays than anything else.
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I couldn't do the flash preorder but all the HTBF movies (minus the mystery titles) are still available for preorder on the website. I hope to place my order for Navy Seals and China O' Brian next month. With Navy Seals being a VSU title I don't think its had the references in pop culture today that made movies like Road House or Showgirls sell out of the boxed set editions right away.
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Originally Posted by Bluelitespecial
(Post 14402346)
With Navy Seals being a VSU title I don't think its had the references in pop culture today that made movies like Road House or Showgirls sell out of the boxed set editions right away.
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Originally Posted by Brian T
(Post 14402574)
As far as I can tell, only those two plus CLOAK & DAGGER actually sold out their limited editions, while the rest haven’t come close
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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
(Post 14402583)
Beastmaster in the limited edition box did sell out, although the slipcover edition is still around. So 4 of the 7 VSU titles released before this year sold out, which ain’t bad, though I can’t wrap my head around some of their production numbers. (8,000 for D.A.R.Y.L. and Southern Comfort? Really?)
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I always wonder if it drives some of these companies nuts when they do a low printing of a title, and it sells out and then they get to watch the eBay aftermarket ridiculousness of those same titles selling for 2 to 5 times the original price they charged.
It always seems like so many titles can sit around forever at bargain basement prices but once it sells out, it suddenly becomes a must-have, hot title and people are willing to shell out big bucks for it. |
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I've sold some Vinegar Syndrome movies from my collection on Ebay. They were either movies I didn't like or didn't watch them enough to keep them. Everything I've listed I've kept them in line with the average price on the movie listed and condition its in. I think I sold Silent Madness and Drop Dead Fred for around $45 a piece. That's not bad and both had the slipcovers with them.
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Depends on the movie but I have sold some for 3 times as much as their MSRP and I bought them obviously for less than MSRP. I quit doing that though because even with the extra dough pocketed, I got tired of feeling taken by watching usually really shitty films that I wouldn't want to rewatch. Also kept finding many streaming for free or small rental charge later. Too much trouble for too crappy movies.
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Interesting visitor at the Vinegar Syndrome Store last weekend (actually his second time, after posting about it on X a month or so ago). The store undoubtedly draws a fair amount of locals of some repute (I've been in there when the occasionally one visits, although most aren't widely known), but he's probably the most high-profile shopper I've heard about thus far, so hopefully he's given them even more cred that might draw others while their in town making shows, which in turn might draw in more curious customers to see what all the fuss is about. Remember, folks, if you're ever in Toronto . . . ;)
'He's just truly a lover of all of it': Guillermo del Toro visited a Roncesvalles film shop and nerded out with staff The Academy-Award-winning director shared on social media that he visited Vinegar Syndrome and 'did some damage.' An employee told the Star about what it was like to meet one of his heroes. https://www.thestar.com/entertainmen...=entertainment Chris Colohan immediately knew that it was Guillermo del Toro who stepped into the Roncesvalles film store where he was working on Sunday. “We’re all nerds for all of this stuff, so it was kind of like one of your heroes walking in, you know?” The store, Vinegar Syndrome, has only been in the city for about five months. But with locations in Connecticut and Colorado already, the brand has become well-known among film enthusiasts for preserving film genres primarily from the 1960s and 1980s — such as cult, grindhouse, horror and more — often with bonus features. It’s no big surprise that the renowned Mexican filmmaker behind “Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio,” “The Shape of Water,” and several other fantasy and horror films made a stop there while in town for the production of his upcoming Netflix film "Frankenstein" (which will star Jacob Elordi, Oscar Isaac, and horror darling Mia Goth). He shared a selfie in the store on social media on Sunday, shouting out the address at 399 Roncesvalles Avenue. "Great shop!! Did some damage!" he tweeted. Del Toro was “really personable,” Colohan said, and the two immediately began talking "a mile a minute" about all of their favourite things — including sci-fi and horror author H.P. Lovecraft, whose influence Colohan sees throughout del Toro’s work — and the horror genre more broadly. (It's actually the second time they talked about Lovecraft, Colohan said; the first time was 10 years ago, while Colohan was working as night security on a film set at Pearson airport.) Del Toro was curious about other customers' finds, employee says In the store, the Mexican director was keen on finding something new, and asked customers what they were looking at and shopping for, Colohan said. “He’s so curious, he’s just truly a lover of all of it,” Colohan added. “He wanted a lot of sets with all the good extras.” In the end, the enthusiastic del Toro bought so many movies, another employee helped him carry a boxful to car. Among his purchases was a copy of the 1974 sci-fi movie "Phase IV" and a box set of Italian Giallo horror films, Colohan said. He also left his signature on a copy of "Cronos," a 1992 film he wrote and directed. "I think the people that it's worth having as heroes are people that … are nerdy for the whole thing themselves," he said. Andy Williams, the co-owner and operator of the Roncesvalles shop, said this was the second time del Toro came by — the first was about a month and a half ago. Unfortunately for him, Williams missed the director both times. But the owner and his full-time employee, Colohan, are sure that del Toro will be back. “It's kind of a treat that somebody comes in that we're a fan of and just loves the store … because we put a lot of work into the shop,” Williams said. Vinegar Syndrome champions physical media Lined with Blu-Rays and DVDs, Vinegar Syndrome champions physical media over online watching. The parent company, a film restoration and distribution business, aims to “race against time.” Its namesake actually refers to motion picture film deteriorating over time and creating a distinct sour smell, like vinegar. Williams previously spoke with the Star about why, in an era of streaming services, physical media continues to be special. “There’s nothing wrong with streaming. It’s very instant gratification, and it gives you many options,” he said. “But owning a piece of physical media is a big thing still.” Beyond its physicality, hard copy is sure to remain unchanged, he explained. “If you own a physical copy, people can’t take that away from you,” Williams said. “These days, it’s common to look for something online, and all of a sudden, it’s gone. Or it’s been cut because something in it has been deemed inappropriate. For anybody who loves any kind of art, if you’re getting something that hasn’t been tampered with, that’s important.” I tried to post their instagram update here, but it doesn't seem to display properly, but the link still works. |
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That is awesome!!!
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The China O' Brien two movie set is now 4 discs.
https://vinegarsyndrome.com/collecti...ina-obrien-1-2 Notice: due to low bitrate & image quality concerns regarding fitting both feature films on a single UHD100 disc, we have decided to upgrade this set to two UHD66 discs (one film per disc). Which means this is now a 4-disc set (2x UHD66 and 2x BD50). |
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After watching the China O'Brien trailer on VS's website, I have to ask is it a so bad it is good film? I have been aware of Cynthia Rothrock for decades now, but growing up I never really got a chance to watch the films she starred in and having seen some of her early appearances in Asian cinema films I totally get why she developed a beloved fan following in the United States. She has been great in the handful of Asian cinema titles I have watched lately mostly thanks to Brian T's posts laying out which films from 88 Films and other labels might be worth picking up, but yeesh...some of the "acting" in the trailer is beyond cringe worthy, lol.
Even some of the fight scenes are beyond cheesy, like when the bad guy is flying through a wall after being kicked by Cynthia R. I plan to pick up more films that star Cynthia R, but I am back to having to be a wee bit more picky about what films I might end up spending $40-50+ to have a place in my collection. ETA: Thanks Blu, it sounds like the action in each film is legit and more than makes up for bad acting. I suspect that I should actually buy this set as I slowly accumulate films that star Rothrock. |
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Originally Posted by Inhumans99
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After watching the China O'Brien trailer on VS's website, I have to ask is it a so bad it is good film? I have been aware of Cynthia Rothrock for decades now, but growing up I never really got a chance to watch the films she starred in and having seen some of her early appearances in Asian cinema films I totally get why she developed a beloved fan following in the United States. She has been great in the handful of Asian cinema titles I have watched lately mostly thanks to Brian T's posts laying out which films from 88 Films and other labels might be worth picking up, but yeesh...some of the "acting" in the trailer is beyond cringe worthy, lol.
Even some of the fight scenes are beyond cheesy, like when the bad guy is flying through a wall after being kicked by Cynthia R. I plan to pick up more films that star Cynthia R, but I am back to having to be a wee bit more picky about what films I might end up spending $40-50+ to have a place in my collection. They're just good martial arts films. You have Rothrock, Richard Norton, and Kieth Cooke. The acting is cringeworthy in parts but the action is great, IMO. |
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China O' Brian will be a blind buy for me but I've always liked Righting Wrongs and Undefeatable was my favorite Vinegar Syndrome release from last year.
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Originally Posted by Inhumans99
(Post 14405835)
After watching the China O'Brien trailer on VS's website, I have to ask is it a so bad it is good film? I have been aware of Cynthia Rothrock for decades now, but growing up I never really got a chance to watch the films she starred in and having seen some of her early appearances in Asian cinema films I totally get why she developed a beloved fan following in the United States. She has been great in the handful of Asian cinema titles I have watched lately mostly thanks to Brian T's posts laying out which films from 88 Films and other labels might be worth picking up, but yeesh...some of the "acting" in the trailer is beyond cringe worthy, lol.
Even some of the fight scenes are beyond cheesy, like when the bad guy is flying through a wall after being kicked by Cynthia R. I plan to pick up more films that star Cynthia R, but I am back to having to be a wee bit more picky about what films I might end up spending $40-50+ to have a place in my collection. ETA: Thanks Blu, it sounds like the action in each film is legit and more than makes up for bad acting. I suspect that I should actually buy this set as I slowly accumulate films that star Rothrock. However . . . I’ll advise at least a little more caution than the others here about these films. If you discovered Rothrock’s HK films relatively recently — especially RIGHTING WRONGS as Bluelitespecial mentioned, or YES MADAM or LADY REPORTER — then the O’BRIEN set may seem more tempting than it should. (I also think nostalgia is a big factor for people who do remember seeing them, rather than their actual quality). The fights are indeed pretty good for American martial arts films of the era (even though these are ‘technically’ Hong Kong movies), but their pacing and overall construction pales in comparison to their Hong Kong counterparts. The whirlwind plotting and cutting of most Hong Kong cinema can often effectively disguise cheesy writing and acting (somewhat). I rarely found that to be the case with American martial arts cinema of the era, including the O’BRIEN pictures. The stuff between the fights can be a real slog in both of them (depending on your tolerance), and the cutting patterns of the fights themselves are just less . . . tight, I guess, so those ‘through the wall’ moments give you more time to actually think about their logic, and how they tend to feel more ‘stunt-y’ and less ‘improvised’ than similar scenes in Hong Kong movies, where people are often kicked through walls to great effect (and usually without slow-motion). One other thing to consider: Robert Clouse may have directed ENTER THE DRAGON and two decent smaller films prior to it that undoubtedly got him the gig, but that film was largely immortalized by two people: Bruce Lee and Lalo Schifrin. After it, Clouse basically became a hack and the majority of his films inevitably include just enough elements — martial arts, crime fighter heroes, and/or Hong Kong sequences — that enterprising producers (often Golden Harvest) could slap “From the director of Enter The Dragon” on one-sheets and video boxes, even though quality-wise none of the films could hold a candle to ENTER. He was also a textbook example of a director who was pigeonholed and increasingly too lazy to fight it, so his films were a series of diminishing returns, with the O’BRIEN films preceding one final phoned-in whimper (IRONHEART) before he called it a day. In fairness, if you haven’t seen most of Clouse’s work, then it’s probably not possible to slot the O’BRIEN films into a sliding scale, and they’ll probably be reasonably enjoyable except for the cheese factor. That said, I’m sure the box set won’t be without its benefits, but if the cheese factor is sending up any kind of flags, I’d at least wait for it to go on sale later this year, or maybe next year, even as a standard edition if they do one. That’s my plan, anyway, because I am interested in watching the supplements.
Originally Posted by Bluelitespecial
(Post 14406033)
. . . and Undefeatable was my favorite Vinegar Syndrome release from last year.
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Yeah, I enjoy all of Rothrock's Hong Kong work, but once she goes back to the US? No gracias.
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I think this might be my first partner release purchase from AGFA
https://vinegarsyndrome.com/collecti...me-video-party 718 minutes of vintage theater promos. |
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They sold out of the 1000 copy slipcover limited version in less than an hour. I couldn't believe it and was surprised. It has to be one of the quickest selling titles I have seen.
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I assume the standard edition will be restocked once it sells out.
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Glad to see they’re salvaging a lot of the Something Weird VHS offerings (like the Shock-A-Rama Video Party set), but I wish they’d get to them with more regularity. SW put out a ton of tapes back in the day full of cool oddities and junk like this for which those tapes became basically the last viewable evidence that this stuff existed. I’m sure occasional film elements have turned up since then, but more often they haven’t, so those tapes (plus a few from Sinister Cinema) are it. I have some here that I scored when the hipster video stores here went out of business. Most were one-and-done viewings, but to see them compiled with more ephemera in multi-hour discs would be cool.
Also noticed the new VS releases are up: - LADY REPORTER (another Rothrock / HK double dip) - KINSKI’S PAGANINI - TOUCH (Cinematographe) - THE HOUSE WHERE DEATH LIVES - WITCH STORY |
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Originally Posted by Spiderbite
(Post 14408037)
They sold out of the 1000 copy slipcover limited version in less than an hour. I couldn't believe it and was surprised. It has to be one of the quickest selling titles I have seen.
I begrudgingly ordered the standard version. :(
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(Post 14408043)
I assume the standard edition will be restocked once it sells out.
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Originally Posted by Bluelitespecial
(Post 14408043)
I assume the standard edition will be restocked once it sells out.
UPDATE: It's now sold out.
Originally Posted by Brian T
(Post 14410052)
Seems likely that the standard edition isn’t truly sold out because they’ve done this kind of thing before, and it’s not like there’s expiring licenses or limits on this old ephemera.
https://vinegarsyndrome.com/collecti...me-video-party Still at 679 copies as I write this. Now my options are to wait with fingers crossed that the VS store here gets the slip version (and that I can get there in time to buy one), or just keep an eye on the standard edition and get it online if the numbers get uncomfortably low. Frankly, I don't understand the quantity limitations on something like this at all; as I mentioned above, there's no way that there are any copyright or licensing restrictions dictating how many copies they can distribute, or for how long. This seems like the kind of brand-representative title they could just keep available in perpetuity. Side note: I've watched a couple of Dark Force Entertainment's 'Drive-In' double feature Blu-rays recently, and noticed that, for the first time ever, some of their intermission trailers looked staggeringly pristine, as though they found vault materials. This stuff has been available for so long in crummy condition -- including on Something Weird's tapes -- that these versions really stood out. I'm guessing they were just random finds and not evidence of some kind of ongoing restoration effort, but it was cool seeing them how they probably looked back in the 50's and 60's. |
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The AGFA intermission video bluray is also going to be available on Amazon starting May 28th. The pre-order price is listed as $39.99 but I don't think the price will be that high by the time it's released.
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Just noticed a new preview banner on the VS site for Weston Razooli’s RIDDLE OF FIRE available May 1. Apparently it was picked up by them and Yellow Veil Pictures. I saw it at TIFF in September. It’s a pretty cool, very eccentric, homage to a certain breed of kids adventure movies from the late 70’s and early 80’s (not necessarily ones that might immediately come to mind). Razooli was quite open about a lot of his other, occasionally obvious inspirations that fuel the film (Zelda video games with side quests being one). This kinda disappeared off the radar after the fest circuit, I think. I was tempted to start a thread in Movies for it a number of times, but I guess with VS and YV behind it it’s presumably a Blu (or 4K) release instead. I could see it doing ok on the rep cinema circuit, such as one exists anymore, but it might gain a better footing via a disc edition like this, and whatever buzz that internet reviews will drum up. I don’t think it’s a classic by any means, but it’s respectably firm in its weirdness and could be worth a view for some folks, perhaps in a sale or on streaming.
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Looks really good and I love the synthesizer heavy score used in the trailer. I'll have to check it out.
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Originally Posted by Brian T
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Just noticed a new preview banner on the VS site for Weston Razooli’s RIDDLE OF FIRE available May 1. Apparently it was picked up by them and Yellow Veil Pictures. I saw it at TIFF in September. It’s a pretty cool, very eccentric, homage to a certain breed of kids adventure movies from the late 70’s and early 80’s (not necessarily ones that might immediattt et ly come to mind). Razooli was quite open about a lot of his other, occasionally obvious inspirations that fuel the film (Zelda video games with side quests being one). This kinda disappeared off the radar after the fest circuit, I think. I was tempted to start a thread in Movies for it a number of times, but I guess with VS and YV behind it it’s presumably a Blu (or 4K) release instead. I could see it doing ok on the rep cinema circuit, such as one exists anymore, but it might gain a better footing via a disc edition like this, and whatever buzz that internet reviews will drum up. I don’t think it’s a classic by any means, but it’s respectably firm in its weirdness and could be worth a view for some folks, perhaps in a sale or on streaming.
https://youtu.be/V9RhW4hE5gU?si=_fD6nMBEV39Sfa1Q https://youtu.be/-OQGwF1wVUU?si=1Fggq8L-9R3gPMiA Based on the newsletter they sent out today, it sounds like it won’t be a 4K disc, as they’re usually pretty explicit when it is. That’s probably fine, though, as it was shot on Super 16. Switching gears to what’s coming up in the nearer future, May 1st will see the unveiling of the Blu-ray for our latest VS Pictures release, which will be up for Pre-Order along with a hefty load of new Partner Label releases. |
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Originally Posted by Brian T
(Post 14415704)
Side note: I've watched a couple of Dark Force Entertainment's 'Drive-In' double feature Blu-rays recently, and noticed that, for the first time ever, some of their intermission trailers looked staggeringly pristine, as though they found vault materials. This stuff has been available for so long in crummy condition -- including on Something Weird's tapes -- that these versions really stood out. I'm guessing they were just random finds and not evidence of some kind of ongoing restoration effort, but it was cool seeing them how they probably looked back in the 50's and 60's. |
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I've found Riddle of Fire to rent or purchase on Vudu and Prime. Im very interested in seeing this movie so I might rent it first before deciding if I want to purchase a blu-ray.
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