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Hamilton Book has some recent Vinegar Syndrome releases for cheaper than VinSyn themselves.
eXistenZ (UHD) is $29.95 ($5 less than direct) and DARYL is $27.95 ($17 less than direct, though presumably in different packaging). Fatal Games and Redneck Zombies are $21.95 ($3 less than direct). I'm sure there are others, but I haven't dug in too deeply. |
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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
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Hamilton Book has some recent Vinegar Syndrome releases for cheaper than VinSyn themselves.
eXistenZ (UHD) is $29.95 ($5 less than direct) and DARYL is $27.95 ($17 less than direct, though presumably in different packaging). Fatal Games and Redneck Zombies are $21.95 ($3 less than direct). I'm sure there are others, but I haven't dug in too deeply. |
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Definitely standard editions, as per the imagery, and the VS store guy here showed me the EXISTENZ version during a discussion of the fancy-box edition (among others) selling out. He noted the DARYL box still has a ways to go, but the standard is ready on that as well. I’d also say both might be cheaper from VS themselves in a future 50% sale, however I see that the VS listing says there are around 650 in stock. I presume they make additional copies for other retailers?
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I ordered eXistenZ from Hamilton Book. Much thanks to Adam for the tip. I like the movie, but not enough to shell out extra for the deluxe edition, especially since the slipcover art of Jude Law's hairy belly skeeves me out. (I get how that's the intent, but I don't care for it.) I would've liked the booklet, but I'll live without it.
Maybe I could've gotten the disc cheaper from a future sale on the VS site, but I didn't want to risk the possibility of it selling out before that. I also find the VS site frustrating, with its periodic outages where they shut down to sell unrelated merchandise, or only sell to subscribers or whatever. |
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Hello Adam, Unfortunately we ran into unexpected delays with our manufacturers at the start of the New Year. This has resulted in our warehouses not having all the new releases in stock. We are hoping to have everything in stock and ready to ship by the middle of next week. Subscribers: Your subscription packages (plus any additional orders) will be the first to ship, hopefully starting next week. Pre-order customers: Your pre-orders (plus any additional orders) will be shipping following Subscriber orders. Due to the large volume of orders, shipping may be carrying over into the month of February. We appreciate your patience and apologize for any inconvenience. ~Team VS |
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Is that email about the January New Releases?
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Yeah.
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I got that same email.
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It'll take a while for a Vinegar Syndrome shipment to arrive. In other news, I think somewhere there's a woman complaining that it's too cold.
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I haven't seen either movie but I'll likely buy it as I've loved the Cynthia Rothrock movies VS has released.
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Is this the topless karate chick?
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40 pages of “insightful analysis” of China O’Brien. :lol: (you’re right about VS’s hyperbole, Dex!). Kudos to VS (and even Eureka) for going all-in on these, though, and also for knowing a sizeable portion of their audience never would’ve bothered laying eyes on them throughout the DVD era. As I mentioned in the Eureka thread, Rothrock and Norton make these watchable, but just. The director was way past it at that point, but still had value on the VHS boxes.
I guess with Eureka now distributing in North America but not on all titles, the new routine will be folks flooding the other labels even more with “are you guys putting this out too?” requests. :)
Originally Posted by Spiderbite
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Is this the topless karate chick?
Speaking of topless karate, though, the Corman produced, Philippines-shot ANGEL FIST with the late “North American Karate Champion” Cat Sassoon would probably be a good VS title. She did full-frontal kung-fu in that one! :) (Although it’s pretty easy to find for free online nowadays) Spoiler:
And that further reminds me of a title that one of these companies would be nuts not to release, David Lai and Corey Yuen’s Hong Kong action-sleazefest WOMEN ON THE RUN (1993), which has both full-frontal Kung-fu and underwear-fu for good measure (trailer NSFW): Spoiler:
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I looked up the movie I was thinking about.
It is called Firecracker (1981). Also known as The Naked Fist! :lol: It is worth watching just for that scene and all the cheesiness it contains. Been awhile since I saw it. Firecracker (1981) - IMDb https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f3/06...f745f36de2.jpg |
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Found the movie thanks to reddit.
Watch Firecracker (1981) - Free Movies | Tubi (tubitv.com) Cut to 42 minutes in if you want to watch the full scene or cut to 44:30 if you just want to see boobies, but you will miss some great cheesy ultra-violence if you do. NSFW obviously. Wonder if they ever released that awesome music score on CD? :lol: |
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:thumbsup:That one was in a cool Roger Corman Cult Classics DVD set from Shout Factory, with TNT JACKSON and TOO HOT TO HANDLE (with the awesome Cheri Caffaro), both of which also have their fair share of nudity and fighting. Both of those are on Tubi as well, and in what seem to be the same prints used in the Shout Set. China O’Brien could only dream of having that kind of fun!
Actually it’s kind of surprising just how much Shout stuff is on Tubi. |
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Originally Posted by Brian T
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Actually it’s kind of surprising just how much Shout stuff is on Tubi.
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That’s cool. I do remember watching Shout TV off and on, ages ago, and being surprised just how much they made available for free. I’ve noticed quite a few Severin and Code Red movies on Tubi as well, among many others. It’s great to have so much cult stuff in one location, and all available to Canadians, too.
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Originally Posted by Brian T
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And that further reminds me of a title that one of these companies would be nuts not to release, David Lai and Corey Yuen’s Hong Kong action-sleazefest WOMEN ON THE RUN (1993), which has both full-frontal Kung-fu and underwear-fu for good measure (trailer NSFW):
I have literally never hear of this movie Bri, but it interests the hell out of me. And no, not because of naked-fu (although that's a hell of a selling point), but because of Corey Yuen. I love his movies. For one thing, I can think of two right off the top of my head (that I won't name for obvious reasons) where the main character is killed halfway though the movie. I love when that happens because it's such a mindfuck. And he doesn't just do it for shock value; usually the second half of the movie is other characters reacting to the death of the main. But the other thing it accomplishes is sending the message "no one is safe in this movie". It then adds to every fight scene, every action scene, that you just don't know who's going to come out on top. |
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Glad someone else caught my little plug for that one. It’s a hell of a film, alright, and I can’t imagine it’s not sitting in some boutique’s hopper already. Anyone who’s viewed that trailer can understand why it got a Category III rating, but it was also also a fairly big-budget affair (by Hong Kong standards), which many Category III movies are not, and it had a couple of good production companies (and a big-ish HK distributor at the time) behind it so I’m sure the elements have been looked after. Good point about the “no one is safe” aspect of Yuen’s films (I think I know the ones you’re referring to). I’m fact, I’d say that was one of the big draws for me to Hong Kong cinema in general in the first place, that cloud of inevitability that floated over the city in the decades leading up to the ‘97 handover. That produced a number of remarkably downbeat and noir-ish action films where there were no guarantees that even the hero would survive until the credits. I know all cultures have dark films like that, but Hong Kong filmmakers made some of the coolest ones.
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I just watched the Trailer for "Women On The Run" and dear lord, that looks amazing.
I posted this in the Asian movie thread a minute ago but it would probably be better served here: It is well worth your time if you like this kinda stuff. |
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Thought this would fit here, since it references VS and their ongoing efforts to salvage old porn films, and interviews “Ashley West”, whose Rialto Report podcast has exhumed a lot of the surviving players from that era. Sounds like vintage smut is also now another hipster rep-cinema trend in bigger cities, including Montreal:
- - - - - - - Four decades later, is it time for a reappraisal of pornography’s cinematic golden age? An adult conversation about adult films is under way as a new generation is appreciating the films and history of the golden age and a newfound audience has returned to the cinema to watch the films of the era. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/...raphys-golden/ There’s a scene in Paul Thomas Anderson’s Boogie Nights (1997) where adult filmmaker Jack Horner is warned of the looming threat of video. Minutes before the clock rings in the 1980s, an adult-cinema magnate explains to him that the days of 35 mm are numbered: “Videotape is the truth.” Seemingly overnight, the industry changed. In reality, a more gradual shift occurred, and 1984 – four decades ago this year – was the “last hurrah” of the so-called golden age of porn, a period of filmmaking which lasted roughly 15 years and arguably peaked with the success of the film Deep Throat in 1972. Expert directors, cinematographers, screenwriters and actors pioneered a new, countercultural film industry operating in parallel to Hollywood, and critics reviewed films by Gerard Damiano and Radley Metzger alongside their mainstream counterparts. Forty years later, an adult conversation about adult films is under way as a new generation is appreciating the films and history of the golden age. After launching The Rialto Report podcast and website in 2013, adult-film historian Ashley West thought that a wider reappraisal would only occur “once you moved beyond the films themselves, once you started looking at them by interviewing the people who made them, looking at their locations, the music, or examining the nature of the companies that released them.” New Blu-ray restorations released by such labels as Vinegar Syndrome and AGFA mean they can be enjoyed with a new level of critical appraisal – far from the purview of the local censorship boards that once cut these films to bits – presented with audio commentaries that revere their stars and filmmakers. Letterboxd, the cinephile’s favourite social-media app, allows the logging and reviewing of adult films alongside the classic film canon. A newfound audience has also returned to the cinema to watch the films of the golden age. In 2023, the L’Amour à Minuit program was launched at the Cinéma L’Amour in Montreal, Canada’s oldest surviving adult cinema, screening films such as Gary Graver’s The Ecstasy Girls (1979). Graver, a prolific filmmaker, used the pseudonym Robert McCallum in the adult world, and was Orson Welles’s final cinematographer, lensing The Other Side of the Wind and F is for Fake. Aidan Martin is one of L’Amour à Minuit’s programmers, and said the series’ focus is to bring the golden age of adult films back into the conversation. “It’s significant and revolutionary to be able to screen porn for a willing audience. And the really cool thing about it is that there is a huge audience that wants to watch.” Having worked at the cinema for a few years, Martin had noticed a younger generation’s interest in vintage erotica. On Feb. 1, the ticket-buying audience, who, Martin said, are mainly in their 20s and 30s, will view the star-studded, golden-age extravaganza Dracula Sucks (1978), an adaptation of Bram Stoker’s classic novel, at the 110-year-old Cinéma L’Amour. The screening is a partnership with Vinegar Syndrome’s new sub-label Mélusine, which released a 4K restoration of the film in 2022. Film historian Casey Scott has been producing audio commentaries for Vinegar Syndrome since 2016 and says the films of adult’s golden age are important because they are an unsung part of American film history. “There was a time when I watched these films and would fast-forward through the sex scenes,” said Scott, with a laugh. “Eventually I realized it was like watching a musical and fast-forwarding through the musical numbers. You can’t do that. You’re not going to appreciate what the directors were doing. The sex means something in these movies.” “I would never be one of those people who thinks all pornography is valid and all pornography needs to be restored, but I think the cream rises to the top.” Scott added that films released at the end of the golden age, such as Ron Sullivan’s Getting Personal, or Roger Watkins’s Corruption, “have finally found their intended audience.” During the transitional period of the mid-1980s, as theatres like Cinéma L’Amour were dwindling in numbers, video stores were lining their shelves with an abundance of new adult releases. West said the switch to video caused a “flight from quality” in the films being produced. “You stopped seeing people willing to put the money into 35-millimetre features, because they could now make it for a fraction of the money using new video camera technology.” At an average retail cost of $100 per videocassette, the studios were making more money than ever before. “By that period, the industry had moved over from its spiritual home, which was New York City, into a more permanent home, which was California,” explained West. New production companies reflecting an MTV sensibility, such as Vivid, were founded, and favoured the new technology. By 1985, the “video vixen” era was in full swing, with names such as Ginger Lynn earning top billing on posters and oversized video box covers. “The films became about quantity over quality,” said film historian Elizabeth Purchell. “But on the gay side of the industry, you see the opposite happening with a lot of producers who were actually spending more money on their movies and putting more craft into them.” Purchell, who directed the 2023 documentary The Naked Eye: Sex and the Mondo Film, an examination of the mondo genre of sexploitation films of the sixties and seventies, added that the rise of adult-video production was democratizing and empowering to those who were suddenly able to make videos. “It’s not until video that you start seeing titles that predominantly feature people of colour, bisexual-themed things, or trans people,” she added. “And a lot of it is fetishized. But at the same time I think those representations are important. A lot of people look at trans porn from the eighties and think: this is clearly problematic and marketed at cis, heterosexual men. But the people who were making those videos were people who were either from the trans community, or had ties to that community.” Film historian West added that a move toward social conservatism in the 1980s played as significant a role in the twilight of the golden age as the technological shift to videotape. “I always think of the 1970s as being the hangover of the sexual revolution of the 1960s, where people were very willing to experiment, push the envelope and try new things. Then you get the inevitable backlash with Reaganism in the 1980s, with the rise of the Moral Majority, the religious right, and the forces that try to fight back against the overpermissiveness of what they saw in the 1970s.” New powers acquired by law enforcement attempted to cripple the industry, added West. The mainstream film industry was also wary of porn’s influence on the marketplace. A Billboard item from 1983 noted the Video Software Dealers Association’s concerns about the adult industry’s presence at an approaching convention, taking steps to “ensure that adult suppliers’ booths don’t overwhelm or otherwise embarrass other exhibitors and delegates.” The adult industry’s preference of the VHS format over Sony’s Betamax played a significant role in VHS winning the video-format wars of the 1980s. “Porn still won the day,” added West, but what emerged after the golden age was a “corporatized product, a homogenized industry that was much less interesting.” West co-produces The Rialto Report with April Hall, and the duo have interviewed hundreds of the golden age’s stars, directors, writers and exhibitors, including luminaries of the genre who’d never publicly discussed their past. Many people worked under pseudonyms, or were never credited at all. It’s part journalism, part archaeology. “You’re uncovering pieces of a past civilization where people belong to the past yet you’re discovering things about their lives from that period that you never thought you’d have access to. It gives you the ability to understand a secret history in that detail.” Putting these golden-age films in a historical perspective lets them be seen in a new light, says West. “I’m an athletics fan, mostly track and field, and there’s nothing more boring than just watching somebody run around a track 20 times,” added West. “But as soon as you know the background of that person, their history, and know what their strengths are, suddenly it becomes a compelling soap opera that you can’t take your eyes off. It’s the same for these films.” |
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I kind of think of vintage porn in the same way in that it's nice to know a little bit about a part of film history that no one talks about. It's nice to see other people think the same way as said in that article. That's a good read.
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February releases will be announced in about a half an hour.
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As late-90’s post-handover Hong Kong cinema goes, A MAN CALLED HERO is pretty good. It was a fairly big-budget production (by HK standards) from the team behind the local box-office smash STORM RIDERS (which generally introduced true Hollywood-grade digital effects into HK fantasy cinema, after years of sporadic and dodgy applications). The effects in both films are now dated (as seen in the trailer on VS’s website), but for the time, and place, they got the job done. The full trailer shows scenes with the Ku Klux Klan and a large street brawl that were not in the only available version of the film, and the VS edition seems to be that cut, so I guess those are lost to the ages. Various DVD editions — including my old non-anamorphic HK disc — have ‘Special Version’ on the front, but as far as I know all discs have the same version of the film. Still, the movie has always been pretty cheap to buy, so some folks might want to test it out before paying top dollar at VS.
Also, it definitely appears that PHASE IV has gotten the treatment it has long deserved. Fingers crossed on those bonuses: https://vinegarsyndrome.com/collecti...ducts/phase-iv Additional info:
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I always forget to check the Partner labels when VS announce their own releases and wow, did Kani ever get a gem with the 1981 Hong Kong film MAN ON THE BRINK. This was a key film in the late 70’s / early 80’s ‘new wave’ movement in HK cinema that launched a number of prominent filmmakers into long careers, like Tsui Hark, Patrick Tam, Yim Ho, and Ann Hui. This film’s director Alex Cheung didn’t reach quite the heights of that bunch but he made a few solid films, including his first, COPS & ROBBERS, which preceded this one. CN Entertainment in Hong Kong released a belated DVD and Blu-ray in 2020 that actually included special features, but I’ve held off buying it because I don’t know if they’re subbed, and most listings say it has 5.1 audio, which wouldn’t be possible on a 1981 Hong Kong film. Kani’s edition has a commentary with Cheung (that’s certainly rarity for most Hong Kong directors), a 72-minute making of and other archival stuff that — at last! — doesn’t bring in a bunch of western bloggers and podcasters to give us context (well, except John Charles in the booklet). Gotta keep my eye on this one down the road.
FWIW, I recently imported (rather expensively, thanks to the shipping) the Hong Kong Film Archive sponsored deluxe restored editions of Ann Hui’s THE SECRET and King Hu’s THE VALIANT ONES so I fully expect these two to be announced by Kani or some other HK-friendly label in the near future because I did that. -rolleyes-:lol: Cantonese DTS-HD MA 2.0 :thumbsup: Additional info:
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I'm getting The Zombie Army because it was (partly) filmed in Delaware. :lol:
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This is up for pre-order. Great little documentary about Showbiz Pizza Place which was close to my heart as a kid. Only 2000 copies made and it is already down to just 1100 left. Had to pick up a copy for myself. Not sure if there is going to be a non-slip version as only the slip version is shown as available to order on the website.
The Rock-afire Explosion – Vinegar Syndrome https://vinegarsyndrome.com/cdn/shop...g?v=1706212202THE ROCK-AFIRE EXPLOSION is the true story behind one of the strangest pop culture phenomenons of the 1980s. Before being mysteriously replaced by Chuck-E-Cheese, the ShowBiz Pizza chain (and its animatronic rock band, the Rock-Afire Explosion) took the U.S. by storm and eventually inspired the hit video game FIVE NIGHT'S AT FREDDY'S. This documentary chronicles the rise and fall of ShowBiz Pizza, the Rock-Afire Explosion, and the obsessive fans who have kept the dream alive. Produced DIY-style by filmmakers Brett Whitcomb and Bradford Thomason (GLOW: THE STORY OF THE GORGEOUS LADIES OF WRESTLING), THE ROCK-AFIRE EXPLOSION is a joyful and touching look at the importance of nostalgia and the eternal quest to stay young. AGFA is excited to bring this overlooked doc to Blu-ray for the first time, complete with enough extras to inspire a million animatronic sing-alongs. directed by: Brett Whitcomb starring: Various 2008 / 72 min / 1.33:1 / English DTS-HD MA 2.0 Additional info:
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I was just writing this post about the ROCK-AFIRE doc when you posted yours, so this might be unfair now, but that documentary has been on YouTube for a while, uploaded there by its makers, I think (I caught it about five years ago). As a Canadian, I was only familiar with the ‘experience’ from TV commercials out of Michigan as a kid, and it creeped me out, but I thought the doc was reasonably above-average for YT, with actual interviews mixed in with the expected barrage of old video clips. They found some good emotional beats in it, largely from the grown men in it who clearly couldn’t let go (for better and for worse). There’s also a Rock-Afire channel on there which seems to be run by someone (or some folks) in the doc (?), and it’s loaded with a lot of ephemera, some of which I suspect might be repeated as bonus features on that disc.
I kinda have conflicting issues with these companies charging top dollar for, essentially, YouTube pop culture documentaries — which lets face it, number in the bazillions now — and which are often already monetized on there (acknowledging here that ROCK-AFIRE might not have been created for YT, but that’s where it’s lived on). I know, I know, free country and all, but it’s . . . interesting what’s deemed worthy of physical media. One of the sub labels also released a Blu last year that was literally a series of short YouTube documentaries about a specific video game console (can’t remember which one) and I quietly lamented that this might be the direction we’re headed: where even free stuff on YT gets the gold star treatment despite being available for years. I don’t know, I guess there’s no harm in it (as I’m sure I’ll be told) but it does seem a little deceptive — in the case of ROCK-AFIRE in particular — to promote something that has over a million views as “overlooked” (more of that patented VS hyperbole spreading around!) (there’s also another documentary (60 minutes for 25 bucks!) in the new releases called THE STORY OF VIDEO HEADQUARTERS that I’m sorta-kinda certain I’ve seen even though the site says it’s from 2023. I’ll stand corrected on that if need be; perhaps it just feels like all the other video store ‘docs’ I’ve seen on YouTube over the years.) |
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I remember going to Showbiz Pizza once as a kid and that animatronic band scared me to death. There's a reason we've had both Five Nights at Freddy's and Willy's Wonderland made as horror movies. Im watching that documentary on youtube right now and the dudes they are interviewing that say they are so called fans are creepy as hell.
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Wasn't sure if posting this here is okay but local horror movie director Jill Gevargizian (Jill Six) is almost done with her new movie and posted this photo. It's a Vinegar Syndrome air freshener hanging in her car. She's also a hair stylist, her last movie was called The Stylist and is on Shudder. She even used her salon in the movie.
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There are 6 Going out of print titles for $10:
https://vinegarsyndrome.com/collecti...rice-ascending Grandmother's House Witchtrap Prey Terror Last Gasp (Slip) Beware My Brethren |
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The VS Annual Valentine's Weekend sale on the Vintage Adult movies will start on Friday 2/9 on the Melusine website.
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If anyone is interested in any of the Adult Movies on sale. All of the VS branded adult movies that were already marked down 50% off will be marked down even further as VS is trying to clearance out their going out of print movies.
DVDs = $5 Blu-rays = $10 Limited Edition Slipcover Blu-rays = $12 |
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OrbitDVD also has a VS clearance/OOP sale with an additional 25% off at checkout:
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A new email from Diabolik DVD notes that they’ll be distributing Deaf Crocodile’s new boxed-set reissue of three of their Alexandr Ptushko fantasy films (ILYA MUROMETS, SAMPO, TSAR SALTAN), plus a new fourth release of RUSLAN AND LUDMILA. Each disc come with a new slip. Turns out this has been a Kickstarter project that has brought in nearly double the initial ask. I really like many of Deaf Crocodile’s releases so far — although I’ll wait for the fourth film here via Vinegar Syndrome — but this tendency for Kickstarters to go way above what the campaigners need gets to be a bit much sometimes. Presumably they’ll use the extra dough for future releases or whatever, but I kinda hope their business model doesn’t become dependent on this kind of largesse. :)
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I just received an email about this weekend starting at 12am Eastern Time on 3/15 being able to preorder the new releases for the Halfway to Black Friday sale coming up in May. These are the preorder options.
To prepare for the Pre-Order of your preference, here are the anticipated ordering options:
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Even after Googling, I don't have any clue on what the "action star studded" film could be. I have guesses, but none of them are with a start studded cast. I was thinking of stuff like Robocop 2, Flesh + Blood, Navy Seals (lol), etc.
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