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Adam Tyner 05-27-22 09:14 AM

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Fran Simeoni is leaving Arrow and starting another label: Radiance Films.

Can’t say I was expecting to wake up to that this morning! And only 2 releases in August. What leaked was it.



dex14 05-27-22 09:28 AM

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Adam Tyner 05-27-22 09:30 AM

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From James Flower:


THREAD: Hello! So you might be wondering why this month's AV announcements are looking much slimmer than usual. Don't worry, it's not a signal that things are going down the tubes at Arrow HQ - quite the opposite. (1/8)

As you may be aware, we've had a few QC issues recently that have necessitated replacement programs as well as some embarrassing errors on our packaging. This has not gone without note at Arrow HQ and we’ve been discussing ways to prevent it in future. (2/8)

While the majority of these issues have been unanticipated and we've acted as quickly as possible to correct them, we're well aware that it only takes a handful of mistakes to endanger some fans' confidence in us, especially when replacement programs are involved. (3/8)

With that in mind, we've decided to only release two titles each in August and September, in order to discuss and implement an even more rigorous QC process, as well as giving us the space to finish work on some especially demanding projects (hello, Shawscope Vol 2!). (4/8)

This "circuit breaker" will also give us the opportunity to restructure the team following some sad departures (farewell,
@Frangipane13
!) with these aims in mind. We're also on the lookout for QC freelancers; please send your CVs to [email protected] to be considered. (5/8)

Will this mean we'll promise that there will never be any mistakes or replacement progs ever again? Of course not; sometimes these things are truly beyond our control. But we recognise that there are weaknesses in our current workflow and are doing what we can to fix this. (6/8)

We hope this goes some way to repairing any damage to our reputation and customer goodwill. We care very deeply about our releases providing the best experience from top to bottom, and take it seriously when we fall short of this aim. (7/8)

We'll be back to our usual size schedule in October, which work is already well underway on. The coming year should be our most exciting yet, with something to please everyone, including some of our most-requested titles! (8/8)

Brian T 05-27-22 10:03 AM

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Can't say I've kept to date on Arrow's QC issues – and not sure I'd necessarily notice all of the issues that have been reported – but it's good to see them taking this approach and taking on freelancers to help out. Would love to chime in myself in certain areas.

Makes me wonder if I need to find out if there are replacement programs I need to take advantage of.

By the way, what's the difference between the two US Running Out Of Time sets, besides the superior (though still somewhat bastardized) original poster art? Is it just a slipcover or something?

Adam Tyner 05-27-22 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian T (Post 14110137)
By the way, what's the difference between the two US Running Out Of Time sets, besides the superior (though still somewhat bastardized) original poster art? Is it just a slipcover or something?

Yeah, it's just artwork. They've been doing that a lot recently (mostly for Dario Argento movies).


Originally Posted by Brian T (Post 14110137)
Makes me wonder if I need to find out if there are replacement programs I need to take advantage of.

I'm not sure if there's a more comprehensive list somewhere, but I know 12 Monkeys, Donnie Darko, Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer, Demons, Dune (packaging-related damage, not an authoring mishap) all had replacement programs.

Brian T 05-27-22 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner (Post 14110154)
I'm not sure if there's a more comprehensive list somewhere, but I know 12 Monkeys, Donnie Darko, Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer, Demons, Dune (packaging-related damage, not an authoring mishap) all had replacement programs.

Thanks. That helps. Don't have any of those, so I guess I'm alright so far.

DJariya 05-27-22 02:12 PM

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I might be interested in Flatliners. I don't think I've seen more than a couple of times. But, I recall liking it.

The remake from a few years ago on the other hand is one of the worst remakes of all-time.

asianxcore 05-27-22 10:53 PM

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Picked up a copy of the Robocop 4K LE at local Best Buy.

Someone hid the last copy behind a stack of other Blu-Rays :lol:

DJariya 05-30-22 02:52 PM

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I watched my Wild Things 4K set last night.

I had not seen the movie in at least 15 years. It's unfortunate that this type of erotic thriller isn't being made anymore in Hollywood anymore with the level of sexuality in it. But, this isn't a review thread, so that's all I will say. The movie still holds up pretty well.

I did watch one of the extras after the movie. There is a new 14 minute interview with Denise Richards. She's definitely had some "work" done. And her voice sounds very different from when she was younger. It's a very raspy smoker's voice. But, I enjoyed her interview and hearing her reflect back on the movie.

LorenzoL 06-09-22 11:17 AM

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Master O 06-12-22 02:12 PM

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https://cityonfire.com/arrow-video-t...aolin-blu-ray/

Yes, I understand that's a very old article, but is Arrow Films going to release Shaw Brothers movies on Blu Ray or not? Was that ever announced anywhere?

E Unit 06-12-22 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 14111404)
I watched my Wild Things 4K set last night.

I had not seen the movie in at least 15 years. It's unfortunate that this type of erotic thriller isn't being made anymore in Hollywood anymore with the level of sexuality in it. But, this isn't a review thread, so that's all I will say. The movie still holds up pretty well.

I’m the total opposite, I’m pretty glad stuff like this isn’t made anymore. And who the hell needs more weirdos like Joe Eszterhas making money from the worst dialogue ever written. I hadn’t seen this probably since the DVD release and decided to check it out before I thought about buying it. That would have been wasted money.

Adam Tyner 06-12-22 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Master O (Post 14117251)
https://cityonfire.com/arrow-video-t...aolin-blu-ray/

Yes, I understand that's a very old article, but is Arrow Films going to release Shaw Brothers movies on Blu Ray or not? Was that ever announced anywhere?

They’ve released quite a few so far: the twelve-movie ShawScope box set, Come Drink with Me, and The 8 Diagram Pole Fighter.

ShawScope Vol. 2 is coming later this year, and we might see some additional standalones. (I’m hoping for Super Inframan for sure.) Among the 14 movies in the second volume are Invincible Shaolin, The Magnificent Ruffians, The Kid with the Golden Arm, Ten Tigers of Kwangtung, and The Boxer’s Omen.

dex14 06-12-22 06:07 PM

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My Young Auntie, Mad Monkey Kung Fu, 36th Chamber Trilogy

LorenzoL 06-13-22 04:55 PM

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Adam Tyner 06-17-22 08:29 AM

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at Amazon and Barnes & Noble ($24.99), for anyone who wants both cuts of the movie.

Also, Arrow titles are 50% off at Barnes & Noble right now! And Amazon has started to price-match.

Brian T 06-17-22 04:27 PM

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Noticed Arrow’s Shaw Brothers box is $90 and part of the B2G1 sale. Probably not easy to find two other sets in the range, but if you could that one would be a record deal. Also noticed some other Arrow Asian boxed sets in the B2G1 batch, though I’m not sure if they’re price-matching B&N: Yokai Monsters, Daimaijin, both Gamera boxes.

Inhumans99 06-17-22 05:22 PM

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Finally pulled the trigger on Amazon and ordered the Robocop UHD Steelbook, Tremors 4K regular edition (the deluxe version is now way too crazy expensive to purchase), and An American Werewolf In London Deluxe/Limited edition UHD (which I think is the lowest it has been, and is even a bit over 50% off msrp at Amazon).

asianxcore 06-22-22 03:09 PM

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The local B&N store closest to where I live had all of their copies of True Romance out early.

I was able to pick up one of the 4K LEs in addition to the 4K LE of An American Werewolf In London :banana:

milo bloom 06-22-22 04:24 PM

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I got my stuff in already: Mill of the Stone Women, Andromeda Strain and 12 Monkeys.

Did I read somewhere that 12 Monkeys had an error? Do I need to see about a disc exchange?

asianxcore 06-22-22 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 14122089)
Did I read somewhere that 12 Monkeys had an error? Do I need to see about a disc exchange?

Yup! I believe Arrow Video has acknowledged the issue but hasn't started the replacement program yet.

This is from last month:

milo bloom 06-22-22 11:15 PM

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I got the regular Blu-ray, was that one okay?

Adam Tyner 06-22-22 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 14122227)
I got the regular Blu-ray, was that one okay?

The error is on the 2018 BD too. It largely (completely?) went unnoticed then.

Toddarino 06-23-22 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 14122089)
I got my stuff in already: Mill of the Stone Women, Andromeda Strain and 12 Monkeys.

Did I read somewhere that 12 Monkeys had an error? Do I need to see about a disc exchange?

I watched the UHD knowing there was an issue and still didn’t notice it. I had to look up the scene and watch it two or three times to see the problem. I’m glad they’re doing a disc replacement, but I can see why this went unnoticed for so long.

Adam Tyner 06-23-22 06:48 PM

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New announcements tomorrow. MVD leaked one of the titles:
Spoiler:
A Fugitive from the Past

Considered the magnum opus of the five decades-long career of Tomu Uchida (Bloody Spear at Mount Fuji, The Mad Fox), the epic crime drama A Fugitive from the Past was voted third in the prestigious Kinema Junpo magazine's 1999 poll of the Top Japanese Films of the 20th Century. In 1947, a freak typhoon sends a passenger ferry running between Hokkaido and mainland Japan plunging to the ocean depths, with hundreds of lives lost. During the chaos, three men are witnessed fleeing a burning pawnshop in the Hokkaido port town of Iwanai. The police suspect theft and arson, and when Detective Yumisaka (Junzaburo Ban) discovers the burned remains of a boat and the corpses of two men, he sets about tracking the shadowy third figure. Meanwhile, the mysterious Takichi Inukai (Rentaro Mikuni) takes shelter with a prostitute, Yae (Sachiko Hidari), a brief encounter that will come to define both of their lives. A decade later, long after the trail has gone cold, Yumisaka is called back by his successor Detective Ajimura (Ken Takakura) as two new dead bodies are found. Making its home video debut outside of Japan, this adaptation of Tsutomu Minakami's 1700-page novel is a landmark in master director Uchida's oeuvre. Its gritty monochrome photography has the immediacy of newsreel as Uchida uses the landscapes of postwar Japan to explore the massive social upheaval and unspoken legacies of the war, and create an unsettling karmic allegory of a man's struggle to escape his past sins.

Bonus Materials

  • High Definition Blu-ray (1080p) presentation of the restored 183 minute-long cut of the film
  • Original uncompressed mono audio
  • Optional English subtitles
  • Introduction by writer and curator Jasper Sharp
  • Scene-specific commentaries from leading Japanese film scholars Aaron Gerow, Irene González-López, Erik Homenick, Earl Jackson, Daisuke Miyao and Alexander Zahlten
  • Original theatrical trailer
  • Image gallery
  • Tomu Uchida filmography
  • Reversible sleeve featuring original and newly commissioned artwork by Tony Stella
  • FIRST PRESSING ONLY: Fully illustrated collector’s booklet featuring writing on the film by David Baldwin and Inuhiko Yomota

Sales Points

  • Winner of 7 Awards including Best Actor, Actress, Supporting Actor, Director & Screenplay
  • For fans and collectors of Arrow's Japanese Cinema titles
  • Voted third on the final poll of the Top Japanese Films of the 20th Century



…but just the one. Unclear if there’s more to come for the US or if the other one (since September is only supposed to have two titles) will be UK-only.

dex14 06-24-22 09:12 AM

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LorenzoL 06-25-22 06:06 AM

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I anxiously awaiting the news about Volume 2 Shwscope titles and release date.

dex14 06-30-22 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner (Post 14117274)
They’ve released quite a few so far: the twelve-movie ShawScope box set, Come Drink with Me, and The 8 Diagram Pole Fighter.

ShawScope Vol. 2 is coming later this year, and we might see some additional standalones. (I’m hoping for Super Inframan for sure.) Among the 14 movies in the second volume are Invincible Shaolin, The Magnificent Ruffians, The Kid with the Golden Arm, Ten Tigers of Kwangtung, and The Boxer’s Omen.


Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 14117290)
My Young Auntie, Mad Monkey Kung Fu, 36th Chamber Trilogy

MERCENARIES FROM HONG KONG (Hong Kong, 1982; Dir. Wong Jing): An avalanche of non-stop gunfire, pyrotechnics, wild motorcycle stunts, and barrels of bloody excitement from Wong Jing, in true ’80s style. Starring some of the most famous Shaw legends: Ti Lung (THE DUEL), Lo Lieh (FIVE FINGERS OF DEATH), Wong Yu (DIRTY HO), and Wang Lung-Wei (HONG KONG GODFATHER). Unseen on Canadian screens for over 35 years. World Premiere of Arrow Films’ new 2K restoration.
https://rue-morgue.com/third-and-fin...etails-photos/

rocket1312 06-30-22 12:02 PM

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I wasn't familiar with Mercenaries from Hong Kong before I saw this. Now that I've looked it up, all I can say is "awesome". More like this please. Hopefully it makes the cut in volume 2. I'd rather this than some of the c-grade venoms titles.

Brian T 06-30-22 12:02 PM

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That gives me hope that at least one of the future boxed sets might lean more toward contemporary-set HK action pictures of the Shaw brothers era, and away from the straight-up period martial arts shows. I can think of quite a few worthwhile titles, but who knows what they've picked up!

EDIT: I should probably add that Arrow had pretty good materials to work with on this. The print on my IVL/Celestial DVD was in excellent shape. Actually, a lot of the Shaw brothers elements were in fine condition back then (better than most had surmised over all the years they were mostly absent), so other than mild cleanups and generally better transfers, I'm just glad to see any picture like this one finally re-appearing on these shores.

Norm de Plume 06-30-22 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 14126017)
I wasn't familiar with Mercenaries from Hong Kong before I saw this. Now that I've looked it up, all I can say is "awesome". More like this please. Hopefully it makes the cut in volume 2. I'd rather this than some of the c-grade venoms titles.

I haven't heard of it either. I haven't seen many of his films, but Wong Jing's critical reputation is that of a hack.

dex14 06-30-22 01:48 PM

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Definitely a part of Volume 2


Brian T 06-30-22 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Norm de Plume (Post 14126076)
I haven't heard of it either. I haven't seen many of his films, but Wong Jing's critical reputation is that of a hack.

Personally I don't think that title is entirely earned, and has seemingly most often been applied by western fans (or "fans"?) of HK cinema who – for whatever reason – couldn't adjust to his free-wheeling, lowest-common-denominator, often incongruous blends of action, comedy, drama, violence, horror, cheesecake, stolen concepts, etc., often swirling together within the same film, even though that was a mix that domestic HK audiences of those eras went in for time and time again. I think they kinda knew what they would get – popcorn movies packed with incident and . . . stuff – so there was presumably some kind of comfort factor there. He's made his fair share of local duds for sure, but he was a reasonably consistent maker of "popular" entertainments in that era, and worked with all of the top stars with fairly large budgets to match. I doubt he'd have had the 106-film career he has (so far) if local audiences didn't see something of themselves and their culture reflected in his work, and I tend to approach and review them with that in mind.

Since then, however . . . :lol:

. . . I do feel that a lot of his output from the last 15 years or so – in part due to his willingness to bend over and praise communist China – really does play like big-budget hackwork sometimes, lazily revisiting 'moments' and 'feels' of his earlier work without the same sense of abandon and/or excess that fuelled Hong Kong cinema – and Hong Kong – in general throughout the golden era. See the VEGAS TO MACAU trilogy, or the CHASING THE DRAGON duo, for example. He recently co-directed two NEW KUNG FU CULT MASTER films with a cast largely made up of HK vets – no doubt in part to make up for his 1993 original lacking a second film to wrap up the story – but what few reviews I've seen have been mixed, despite all the whiz-bangery on screen:
Spoiler:





rocket1312 06-30-22 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Norm de Plume (Post 14126076)
I haven't heard of it either. I haven't seen many of his films, but Wong Jing's critical reputation is that of a hack.

This is many years before the Wong Jing of Naked Killer and the like. And the Shaw system guaranteed a certain level of homogeneity. Bottom line is it's got Ti Lung, Lo Lieh and Wang Lung Wei in a contemporary crime film, which is pretty much an automatic sell for me.

And it's not like late period Chang Cheh is a high bar to cross for inclusion in one of these sets.

LorenzoL 07-01-22 10:09 AM

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Wong Jing himself knows about his reputation as a hack especially if you get to watch “Whatever You Want” a 90’s Shaw in which he makes fun of WKW and himself.

Looking forward to Mercenaries as it’s one that I haven’t watched before.

LorenzoL 07-01-22 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian T (Post 14126019)
That gives me hope that at least one of the future boxed sets might lean more toward contemporary-set HK action pictures of the Shaw brothers era, and away from the straight-up period martial arts shows. I can think of quite a few worthwhile titles, but who knows what they've picked up!

EDIT: I should probably add that Arrow had pretty good materials to work with on this. The print on my IVL/Celestial DVD was in excellent shape. Actually, a lot of the Shaw brothers elements were in fine condition back then (better than most had surmised over all the years they were mostly absent), so other than mild cleanups and generally better transfers, I'm just glad to see any picture like this one finally re-appearing on these shores.

Arrow have hinted that they would focus on Chor Yuen in one of the upcoming volumes.

Master O 07-04-22 09:42 AM

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Besides June, when else does Arrow have sales at Barnes & Noble?

Adam Tyner 07-04-22 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Master O (Post 14127583)
Besides June, when else does Arrow have sales at Barnes & Noble?

November. They're usually around the same time as the Criterion sales.

Brian T 07-05-22 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by LorenzoL (Post 14126543)
Wong Jing himself knows about his reputation as a hack especially if you get to watch “Whatever You Want” a 90’s Shaw in which he makes fun of WKW and himself.

That one's a lot of fun, and the kind of movie we'll not likely see getting a release in the west. So many localized jokes (beyond just the WJ and WKW riffing). And despite his own acknowledgement of it, I still say WJ's reputation as a hack isn't entirely earned, especially from the western perspective where many folks actually haven't had access to his entire output. (also, I tend to think hacks rarely make good films, and Wong Jing has made a ton of good movies, maybe even a few great ones). I think some of his most gonzo pictures are quintessential viewing if you want to truly understand and appreciate HK culture and cinema beyond the more commonly exported action genre. There were other directors and screenwriters who cranked out films in the same 'anything goes' vein as Wong Jing, but through his prodigiousness and and factory-filmmaking techniques Wong Jing seemed to position himself at the top of the heap. :)

Master O 07-10-22 08:38 PM

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I wonder if Arrow Films would ever want to release the movie Samurai Reincarnation (1981) as a Blu-Ray. It's the kind of film that would be right up Arrow's alley.


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