Creature From the Black Lagoon Legacy Collection BD announced by Universal
 

Bob Furmanek and the crew at the 3-D Film Archive have painstakingly restored (and corrected errors on) the 3D for Revenge of the Creature--should look even better than its original 3D release!




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:clap: I've been waiting for this news. Can't wait.

That just leaves Invisible Man, right?

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Invisible Man franchise being released the same day.

These are both my favorites of the Uni Monster properties, so I'm greatly looking forward to finally having them on Bd.

The Creature set is doubly enticing. Not only is Revenge finally going to be able to be seen in 3D for the first time in 63 years, but both it and Walks... will finally be presented in their proper ARs.

Bobs close participation in Revenge is also something to cheer about.

Between these and the releases of The Changeling and the Night Stalker/Strangler, I'm already A-OK with how this Halloweens Bd releases have panned out. Anything else is just gravy at this point.

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Revenge of the Creature was shown on TV in red/blue 3D in the 80s, it was the first 3D movie I saw as a matter of fact although it didn't look very good in that format. I guess this'll be a double dip on the first movie for me as I bought the Monsters set mainly to get that, though it was put out on its own later. Will have to hear if they put these out individually before jumping on this one (I should get the third movie for completeness sake even though it's only in 2D.)

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This movie is one of the all-time favs for anyone who grew up in the 60s.
It was constantly shown on the Boob Tube as a Saturday afternoon feature.
Lots of good memories for me.

Although I do have the regular BD, I just might pick this one up.

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Nice! The question will be whether I wait for the prices to go down like they did with the previous sets.

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I'm not a huge fan of the Universal Monsters, though I did pick up the Alex Ross steelbooks, which was actually the first time I bought any of these films. They're very low priority for me, but I couldn't resist those gorgeous Alex Ross paintings.

I might pick this up, though, as I've always had a soft spit for the "Creature." Great design on him, and he's sort of sci-fi, sort of Lovecraft.

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After watching The Shape of Water, I can say you're not the only one with a soft spot for the Big Gilled-Guy. ;)

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I told you guys this was coming, just didn't have a release date yet! Expect another collection with the other missing BD titles as well.

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:confused:

What titles are those?

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I don't remember watching these movies. :hscratch:

I'm intrigued. :D

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As someone who grew up only seeing the stills from Creature Walks Among Us with the Creature in mid transition, I was never at all interested in seeing the actual film. A big appeal of the Creature all along for me was his look, with the scads of interesting reptilian detail.

Smoothing most of that away to make him look more human had no appeal to me whatsoever.

When I finally bothered to watch it after getting the first legacy set over a decade ago, I was greatly surprised to find a movie that was every bit as cool to watch as the first two (if you were a fan).
What it lacked in visual aesthetics for the monster, it made up for in terms of advancing the Creature's story. So cool to see a film (and series) that, unlike the Mummy films with Chaney Jr, didn't just regurgitate the same thing over and over with different leads and a different setting.

Now that you mention it, I do have some vague memories of a UHF channel broadcast of a '50's 3D movie that I think was a nationally syndicated event.
I was remembering it as the first Creature film, but now think it might in fact have been the sequel. I seem to recall you had to get the 3D glasses at 7-11 or someplace like that. I don't think I bothered watching the broadcast though.
I'd seen an anaglyph (red/blue) showing of the first film at the city historical museum in the early 80's and walked away not too impressed with the effect.

Pretty amazing what enthusiasts have access to now for home use.

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The Invisible Man set, which is also on the way.

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Your memories are correct. It was a syndicated event between 7-11 and the distributor. 1982. There were three events co-sponsored with 7-11. Revenge of the Creature, Hondo and The Mask.

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+Not quite done yet until you check to see if you have the old or new disc despite the sticker.

Corrected Inner ring codes are
(1057486) 2110795R1 01E 030001
(1057487) 2110795R1 01E 020001

Original codes...
(1045535) 2092919R0 02E 010001
(1045536) 2092919R0 01E 010001

Can also check the file dates if you had a BDROM. the originals were June or July and corrected dates are dated 9/20.

Also from Paul H. - I'm not exactly sure how to get his discID codes, but maybe something like DVDProfiler
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=1272

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Mine came yesterday from Amazon & does not have any sticker. I tried to read the ring codes, but even with readers, my eyes are too messed up. I THINK the 1st one started with 202292 & than went on. I'm uncertain, though. The full UPC is 191329065020. I don't have a pc based blu player, so can't get any imbedded id codes.

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If it doesn't have a sticker then almost 100% it's an old copy? . I find a flashlight angled on the surface in dim/dark room and a magnifying glass helps, but still difficult for 60+.
Certainly yours is close enough that it seems to confirm the old disc. You are the first I've heard who actually got the set without the sticker though I think I've counted around 5 or 6
now with the sticker, but old disc (about 1/3 of those reported). Is your sticker on the shrinkwrap or box itself (mine was on the shrink).
Even Amazon wouldn't be low enough to be making their own stickers and applying them to old stock figuring most people would never check, would they?

The UPC are the same on both, just the sticker adds the 00022 suffix

Similar to this though this is the 30 film boxset
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=16973911&postcount=1164

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Amazon. Sounds like I got screwed. Is it worth complaining? I am only going to play the 2D versions.

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If you are only going to do the 2D then no difference anyway, but might as contact Universal and have them send you the new disc. I can't remember if they ask for the
old disc back, but I don't think they have in the past.

https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/m...ts/090618-0900

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Thank you!

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Pulled the trigger on the box set ...

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I just wrote Universal & pasted in my Amazon receipt. Thanx again!

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Even with my crummy 62 yo eye site I can see that Return Of the Creature in 2d looks mediocre. A quality dvd upsampled with my Oppo would look sharper. GRR.

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I was able to check mine with my scanner. Disc #2 code is (1045536) 2092919R 01E 01001. I obviously got the bad one. I hope Universal is easy to work with; I don't want to deal with Amazon cs in India. Really surprised Amazon still has old stock & that they're not aware of this with all the negative reviews.

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That's been the problem. The 3DFA folks who did the original transfer of Creature and send their raw files to Universal have essentially disowned it after Universal filtered, DNR, and de-grained it for the final encode.
Universal doesn't consider that an error to be fixed though -- a bad result doesn't equal a bad disc. From memory there was a quite nice French Elephant Films Bluray of Revenge of the Creature except it was 1.33 instead of OAR - I've tried to confirm,
but I think it's an Open Matte transfer so zooming on the Oppo should give you a decent approximation of the OAR.

Universal I think has been pretty OK to work with getting fixed discs out after teh initial rush where they were overwhelmed and frequently ignored/missed/didn't acknowledge getting a lot of the 1st emails. Some folks had
to send the request several times before getting confirmed.

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They didn't ask for my old disc back. It's in the paper sleeve the replacement came in and stored in the case with the other 2 discs.

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Yeah... it's not a very good transfer and doesn't look much better than the last DVD set. I can't see a difference at all in the 2D transfer between the "bad" and "fixed" 3D discs. Its "need" factor is it's in OAR for a change.
I have no idea as the BFI is the only BR version I own. I own a copy of the Image "Milestone" DVD release - it's pretty good. I researched whether to get the KINO or BFI BR settling on the BFI due to their inclusion of the 1925 in a HD transfer and lower price. Reviews as to which has the better BR presentation are somewhat mixed. BFI is a single transfer of the 1929 while KINO has both a 20fps and 24fps version. I'm past the point of caring about the frame rate on this one just as long as it looks natural. The score on the BFI is also fairly good (but I just don't understand why they don't record the original score instead of creating new ones - for any silent film - unless the original is lost, which may be the case here - I don't know).

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Shouldn't be -- they're the exact same files. The only thing corrected was the encode and flags of those files from a SBS to Over/Under
Some people have said there is a significant difference in the Left Eye/Right presentation -- the std 2D is one eye, but if you're watching in 3D you can 'turn off 3D" and watch the opposite eye. Varying answers to mild improvement
to no difference from those that have done so.

By reports the German Koch BD of Creature Box actually used the Opposite Eye to do their 2D disc, but I've honestly not found anything definitive on people that have watched the Universal 2D vs Koch 2D side-by-side to see how different they look.

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I'd love to do that just to see. I have a 3D BR player but no 3D TV so the player won't even go into 3D mode to try.

When those replacements started coming in there was speculation they'd actually remastered the entire package properly so I check just to see although I didn't expect anything different as Universal had already said the transfer was "OK" and it was just the 3D encoding that needed to be corrected.

It actually does look a little better than the DVD (although that's subjective depending on your outlook and to me it's negligible). Sadly, it's just not the huge difference you see in the majority of the other BR Legacy films. When it comes right down to it I'm OK with the transfer as it's in OAR.

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I'll compare my dvd set with the blu. Uni hasn't written back as of yet. The 2d blu was pretty awful. Even the type was a little blurred. the other film on the disc looks fine. When I was Googling last night a couple of the hits said the 2d was also improved on the replacement disc.

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Placebo effect maybe or wishful thinking. Most of the A/B trials have basically said no difference at all.
Again I think the 2D BD is better than the DVD, but damning with faint praise.

At some point if the German Koch and/or French Elephant are on sale I may take a chance.-- honestly out of curiosity more than anything else.
I wish they'd put out the original 3D Film Archives results -- though Bob Fum. is being diplomatic and legally very cautious in his responses on HTF and Blu-ray, I get the impression their group is pretty much extremely disappointed with what happened to their work

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Yep... absolutely...
I get that same impression and feel for them having their hard work mutilated.

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I just compared the Legacy DVD of Revenge with the blu. The Dvd is slightly sharper, but is full screen (sigh) where the blu is of course wide. I also for the heck of it tried 3d mode on my 2d player. I got two pictures, one on the left & one on the right. The one on the right had a sharper image.

I wrote Uni a second time, as someone above said some people had to write multiple times. I will contact Amazon tomorrow if Uni ghasn't written back. I am concerned that this issue will be very confusing to 3rd world cs. I also used an Amazon credit for payment, which may make it more confusing.

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Second time was the charm:

"Thank you for sending us your shipping address and contact information.

We are continuously working on fulfilling these requests, so please allow 1-2 weeks to receive your replacement disc. Thank you for your patience.

Our goal is to always deliver the best possible product to our consumers. We hope that you will continue to enjoy this and future Universal releases.

Sincerely,
Consumer Relations
UNIVERSAL PICTURES HOME ENTERTAINMENT "

The irony is that the reason I had a credit to purchase this with is because UPS really messed up my last Amazon order & Amazon gave me a much larger than expected credit as an apology. The frustration is I literally spent over 8 hours on "chats" & the phone getting it resolved. The resolution was demanding that I be transferred to a USA based cs rep. They were all great. I have found that the reps in India are often poorly trained, & unfortunately their tend to be what I call "cultural points of reference" issues.

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Thanks, hariseldon. I have (1057487) 2110795R1 01E 020001 on the 2nd disc. What I also have is a big smudge and a partial fingerprint on the 2nd disc's playing surface, out of a brand new packaging. There's just no quality control anymore. Am sorry I do not have a BDROM

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Since that's likely the QC person's fingerprint I suspect you have evidence.

I suspect they opened all the old sets they got back from the retailers and manually repacked the disc then resealed them

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sounds like just what they did. The whole thing leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Have not been a Uni fan since the time I purchased a new ''Breakfast Club' BD only to find no disc inside. Retailer asked me to contact Uni - a few unsuccessful emails and a couple of phone calls later, gave up. Besides the Creature set ranks the lowest for me personally in the legacy collection, got it just for completion. Thanks again for all the useful information - many of us here owe you for it

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Really bad taste. Hopefully they'll come through with the replacements. A year after these were pulled off the market, the statement I received "We are continuously working on fulfilling these requests, so please allow 1-2 weeks to receive your replacement disc." seems a little wonky.

It's kind of like the massive amounts of either bootlegged or possibly repressed as low bit rate single layer "Thriller" box sets that were flooding the market last year. There's no way to know on those if you got a boot/low quality repress without checking the bit rate (which of course requires opening the box). Both "versions" had the same stickers on the outer box (& all the boots were sealed). AFAIK, no one ever found out if they were boots or low quality represses by Image. I've seen both & the packaging looks 100% identical.

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In general this is an Amazon specific issue at least still selling non stickered sets -- every other retailer sent theirs back and has only sold new sets so Universal seems to have little say.

Depending on how those stickered items with old discs inside happened is still to be determined. DId Universal pack and sticker those or is Amazon still to blame by stickering their items in order to sell the old stock -- Amazon: Oh Yes, corporate Universal, just send us
the new discs and stickers and we'll repack the set we already have for a small fee and save you the expense? Can I see Amazon doing it on their own -- absolutely and Universal gets all the blame since nobody knows the conversation

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Amazon is to blame either way. Mine did not have a sticker. There are a lot of reviews on Amazon discussing this issue. At best, why didn't Amazon return them to Universal? Though I still find it hard to believe that at a year out, Universal is still "continuously working on fulfilling these requests".