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Old 11-22-17, 09:39 PM   #1
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COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray

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Old 11-22-17, 09:47 PM   #2
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looks good, but will have to Zavvi the 3D...
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Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray

Just about ALL my purchases are imports at this point- thanks, Disney.
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Just about ALL my purchases are imports at this point- thanks, Disney.
Sadly, we have oughtta-know-better Pixar to thank for this, as they have autonomy to design their own releases, independent of standard Disney practices. I really thought they were going to *get it* and keep the 3D coming domestically, but I overestimated them.
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Just about ALL my purchases are imports at this point- thanks, Disney.
I don't understand why Disney can't make the 3D releases retailer exclusive (a la Guardians Vol. 2 and Rogue One), but at the same time, I also understand why they're giving up on 3D Blu-ray since I literally cannot walk into a store and purchase a television capable of displaying 3D content.

Once my Vizio M-Series dies, all my 3D Blu-rays are pretty much worthless.
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Old 11-24-17, 09:30 PM   #6
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Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray

Yep... pretty much another Amazon UK or Zavvi buy. As long as it's region free.

What gets me about the "death" of 3D TVs is, why are the self-same manufacturers (LG and Samsung) making 4K/UHD players that are 3D capable? Why stop making 3D TVs... yet continue the effort/expense to build it into 4K players?
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Yep... pretty much another Amazon UK or Zavvi buy. As long as it's region free.

What gets me about the "death" of 3D TVs is, why are the self-same manufacturers (LG and Samsung) making 4K/UHD players that are 3D capable? Why stop making 3D TVs... yet continue the effort/expense to build it into 4K players?
That doesn’t make sense. It can’t be easy to build that in. Why spend even a dollar if they don’t build it into their TVs?
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Please post when Zavvi becomes available. Thanks.
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Old 11-25-17, 12:32 AM   #9
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That doesn’t make sense. It can’t be easy to build that in. Why spend even a dollar if they don’t build it into their TVs?
It's not hardware specific. Blu-ray 3D playback is firmware/software based.

Sony, Samsung, and Panasonic updated a few of their existing players for Blu-ray 3D playback via firmware updates when discs began to come out. As we saw with the PS3, PS4, and Xbox One, all it required was a software update to get 3D playback.
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Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray

Although I don't know first-hand, 3D player capability is probably as simple as DTS output is on DVD players- the first generation of players couldn't output that, but once it came out every player being made could do so, even if only a small number of people actually had DTS sound.

Hoping SOME form of 3D display comes back into production before my TV craps out, but I'm going to be buying a LOT less of this stuff if 3D really goes away. I've heard it costs VERY little to keep including in TVs, certainly no more than that motion-smoothing crap that every TV from the past few years has.
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Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray

What I've been told is that it's not dollars and cents, exactly. The 3D filter on UHD displays limits peak brightness, and with HDR being a more compelling selling point, the trade-off isn't worth it to manufacturers. A 3D filter means a TV will look duller than the 3D-less TV next to it on the showroom floor, and no one wants that, especially given the lack of enthusiasm for 3D in displays nowadays. They'd be hurting the larger market to service a smaller market.
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What I've been told is that it's not dollars and cents, exactly. The 3D filter on UHD displays limits peak brightness, and with HDR being a more compelling selling point, the trade-off isn't worth it to manufacturers. A 3D filter means a TV will look duller than the 3D-less TV next to it on the showroom floor, and no one wants that, especially given the lack of enthusiasm for 3D in displays nowadays. They'd be hurting the larger market to service a smaller market.
Interesting.

I wondered why all CEs dropped 3D support if it wasn't much to include it. I think 2016 is the last year some CEs still included it. I personally have never used the 3D in my 2013 LG (even though I have 50 movies) and while I'm looking to upgrade I don't care if it has 3D or not since I'll never use the feature.
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What I've been told is that it's not dollars and cents, exactly. The 3D filter on UHD displays limits peak brightness, and with HDR being a more compelling selling point, the trade-off isn't worth it to manufacturers. A 3D filter means a TV will look duller than the 3D-less TV next to it on the showroom floor, and no one wants that, especially given the lack of enthusiasm for 3D in displays nowadays. They'd be hurting the larger market to service a smaller market.
With Dolby's big push into the home theater market in recent history with bringing Atmos and Vision to consumer hardware, I'm surprised they haven't developed a home variation of Dolby 3D where the glasses do the filtering and not the display.

I'm really excited to see Titanic in Dolby Vision 3D on Thursday. From everyone I've talked to, Dolby Vision 3D is superior to laser IMAX 3D. It also helps that Titanic is one of the best, if not the best, 3D post-conversion out there. It looked amazing in digital IMAX 3D five years ago, so I wonder how the Dolby Vision 3D variation compares.
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Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray

The 2D picture on my LG is plenty bright- someone even did some measurements and found no difference in brightness between 2D and 3D TVs in 2D mode.

Meanwhile my TV CLAIMS to also have HDR, but I'm not impressed with that so far.
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Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray

The 4K version is 15% off at Target today with their sale going on. My order came to $25.24 shipped with Red Card.
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Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray

Hasn't this been out already for a few years, in 3D even:

The Book of Life 3D Blu-Ray
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Coming 2/27

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Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray

This is one of my favorite Pixar movies ever, looking forward to buying the UHD
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Same here, can't wait to see this in 4K again.
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Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray

hope to god there is a Zavvi 3D. nothing listed as of yet...
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Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray

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Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray

fuck, those all look good...
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They could've at least put the 3D disc in that exclusive. Seems like there will be a 3D edition elsewhere but as the movie is just coming out in cinemas in the UK this week, it won't be out for a few more months. I'll go ahead and wait. 4K can bite me.
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I loved this movie. Will probably get the 4K version.

That's a nice cover too.
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I'll go ahead and wait. 4K can bite me.
I'll wait, too. I love 4K, but not at the expense of half the movie. The lack of 3D in the 4K standard can bite me.
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