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gerrythedon 11-22-17 09:39 PM

COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray
 
Coco [SteelBook] [Includes Digital Copy] [Blu-ray/DVD] [Only @ Best Buy] [2017]

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OldBoy 11-22-17 09:47 PM

Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray
 
looks good, but will have to Zavvi the 3D...

Alan Smithee 11-22-17 09:58 PM

Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray
 
Just about ALL my purchases are imports at this point- thanks, Disney.

Doctorossi 11-24-17 08:00 AM

Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray
 

Originally Posted by Alan Smithee (Post 13212309)
Just about ALL my purchases are imports at this point- thanks, Disney.

Sadly, we have oughtta-know-better Pixar to thank for this, as they have autonomy to design their own releases, independent of standard Disney practices. I really thought they were going to *get it* and keep the 3D coming domestically, but I overestimated them.

Matthew Chmiel 11-24-17 06:41 PM

Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray
 

Originally Posted by Alan Smithee (Post 13212309)
Just about ALL my purchases are imports at this point- thanks, Disney.

I don't understand why Disney can't make the 3D releases retailer exclusive (a la Guardians Vol. 2 and Rogue One), but at the same time, I also understand why they're giving up on 3D Blu-ray since I literally cannot walk into a store and purchase a television capable of displaying 3D content.

Once my Vizio M-Series dies, all my 3D Blu-rays are pretty much worthless.

Jon2 11-24-17 09:30 PM

Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray
 
Yep... pretty much another Amazon UK or Zavvi buy. As long as it's region free.

What gets me about the "death" of 3D TVs is, why are the self-same manufacturers (LG and Samsung) making 4K/UHD players that are 3D capable? Why stop making 3D TVs... yet continue the effort/expense to build it into 4K players? -screwy-

OldBoy 11-24-17 10:33 PM

Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray
 

Originally Posted by Jon2 (Post 13213403)
Yep... pretty much another Amazon UK or Zavvi buy. As long as it's region free.

What gets me about the "death" of 3D TVs is, why are the self-same manufacturers (LG and Samsung) making 4K/UHD players that are 3D capable? Why stop making 3D TVs... yet continue the effort/expense to build it into 4K players? -screwy-

That doesn’t make sense. It can’t be easy to build that in. Why spend even a dollar if they don’t build it into their TVs?

OldBoy 11-24-17 10:34 PM

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Please post when Zavvi becomes available. Thanks.

Matthew Chmiel 11-25-17 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 13213421)
That doesn’t make sense. It can’t be easy to build that in. Why spend even a dollar if they don’t build it into their TVs?

It's not hardware specific. Blu-ray 3D playback is firmware/software based.

Sony, Samsung, and Panasonic updated a few of their existing players for Blu-ray 3D playback via firmware updates when discs began to come out. As we saw with the PS3, PS4, and Xbox One, all it required was a software update to get 3D playback.

Alan Smithee 11-25-17 04:39 AM

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Although I don't know first-hand, 3D player capability is probably as simple as DTS output is on DVD players- the first generation of players couldn't output that, but once it came out every player being made could do so, even if only a small number of people actually had DTS sound.

Hoping SOME form of 3D display comes back into production before my TV craps out, but I'm going to be buying a LOT less of this stuff if 3D really goes away. I've heard it costs VERY little to keep including in TVs, certainly no more than that motion-smoothing crap that every TV from the past few years has.

Adam Tyner 11-25-17 06:37 AM

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What I've been told is that it's not dollars and cents, exactly. The 3D filter on UHD displays limits peak brightness, and with HDR being a more compelling selling point, the trade-off isn't worth it to manufacturers. A 3D filter means a TV will look duller than the 3D-less TV next to it on the showroom floor, and no one wants that, especially given the lack of enthusiasm for 3D in displays nowadays. They'd be hurting the larger market to service a smaller market.

Gizmo 11-25-17 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner (Post 13213495)
What I've been told is that it's not dollars and cents, exactly. The 3D filter on UHD displays limits peak brightness, and with HDR being a more compelling selling point, the trade-off isn't worth it to manufacturers. A 3D filter means a TV will look duller than the 3D-less TV next to it on the showroom floor, and no one wants that, especially given the lack of enthusiasm for 3D in displays nowadays. They'd be hurting the larger market to service a smaller market.

Interesting.

I wondered why all CEs dropped 3D support if it wasn't much to include it. I think 2016 is the last year some CEs still included it. I personally have never used the 3D in my 2013 LG (even though I have 50 movies) and while I'm looking to upgrade I don't care if it has 3D or not since I'll never use the feature.

Matthew Chmiel 11-25-17 01:20 PM

Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray
 

Originally Posted by Adam Tyner (Post 13213495)
What I've been told is that it's not dollars and cents, exactly. The 3D filter on UHD displays limits peak brightness, and with HDR being a more compelling selling point, the trade-off isn't worth it to manufacturers. A 3D filter means a TV will look duller than the 3D-less TV next to it on the showroom floor, and no one wants that, especially given the lack of enthusiasm for 3D in displays nowadays. They'd be hurting the larger market to service a smaller market.

With Dolby's big push into the home theater market in recent history with bringing Atmos and Vision to consumer hardware, I'm surprised they haven't developed a home variation of Dolby 3D where the glasses do the filtering and not the display.

I'm really excited to see Titanic in Dolby Vision 3D on Thursday. From everyone I've talked to, Dolby Vision 3D is superior to laser IMAX 3D. It also helps that Titanic is one of the best, if not the best, 3D post-conversion out there. It looked amazing in digital IMAX 3D five years ago, so I wonder how the Dolby Vision 3D variation compares.

Alan Smithee 11-26-17 03:00 AM

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The 2D picture on my LG is plenty bright- someone even did some measurements and found no difference in brightness between 2D and 3D TVs in 2D mode.

Meanwhile my TV CLAIMS to also have HDR, but I'm not impressed with that so far.

mattysemo247 11-27-17 03:01 PM

Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray
 
The 4K version is 15% off at Target today with their sale going on. My order came to $25.24 shipped with Red Card.

popegregFKAgoblin23 11-29-17 02:29 AM

Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray
 
Hasn't this been out already for a few years, in 3D even:

The Book of Life 3D Blu-Ray ;)

mattysemo247 01-12-18 05:22 PM

Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray
 
Coming 2/27

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=22699

fumanstan 01-12-18 05:30 PM

Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray
 
This is one of my favorite Pixar movies ever, looking forward to buying the UHD :up:

E Unit 01-12-18 08:48 PM

Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray
 
Same here, can't wait to see this in 4K again.

OldBoy 01-12-18 09:31 PM

Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray
 
hope to god there is a Zavvi 3D. nothing listed as of yet...

gerrythedon 01-12-18 09:40 PM

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http://movies.disney.com/coco

Special Features:
  • Deleted Scenes
  • The Music of Coco
  • Paths to Pixar: Coco
  • Filmmaker Commentary
  • In-Home Exclusive: Welcome to the Fiesta
  • A Thousand Pictures A Day
  • Mi Familia
  • Land of Our Ancestors
  • Fashion Through the Ages
  • The Real Guitar
  • Dante
  • How to Make Papel Picado
  • How to Draw a Skeleton
  • You Got the Part!
  • Un Poco Coco
  • Coco Trailers


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OldBoy 01-12-18 09:46 PM

Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray
 
fuck, those all look good...

Alan Smithee 01-12-18 09:51 PM

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They could've at least put the 3D disc in that exclusive. Seems like there will be a 3D edition elsewhere but as the movie is just coming out in cinemas in the UK this week, it won't be out for a few more months. I'll go ahead and wait. 4K can bite me.

DJariya 01-12-18 09:55 PM

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I loved this movie. Will probably get the 4K version.

That's a nice cover too.

Doctorossi 01-15-18 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee (Post 13245078)
I'll go ahead and wait. 4K can bite me.

I'll wait, too. I love 4K, but not at the expense of half the movie. The lack of 3D in the 4K standard can bite me.

OldBoy 01-15-18 08:14 PM

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if anyone sees Zavvi post the 3D, please pm me as soon as possible. thank you!

BSTNFAN 01-19-18 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 13246970)
if anyone sees Zavvi post the 3D, please pm me as soon as possible. thank you!

I got an email from Zavvi this morning for the 3D steelbook.

Gizmo 01-19-18 10:12 AM

Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray
 

Originally Posted by Alan Smithee (Post 13245078)
They could've at least put the 3D disc in that exclusive. Seems like there will be a 3D edition elsewhere but as the movie is just coming out in cinemas in the UK this week, it won't be out for a few more months. I'll go ahead and wait. 4K can bite me.

I think we are at a point where 3D is not a selling point and the added expense of including a disc is pointless. There are no longer any 3D TVs for sale with a 2017/2018 model. Stores might have old stock or returns, but by all means, its a dead feature. But with stores carrying less and less physical media - an additional SKU for a movie probably isn't a hot selling point.

I went from 2 3D TVs to 0 in the course of 6 months. I now have tons of useless discs that I will never watch (is there a good place to sell them?).

Aside from maybe a few prestige releases, it appears 3D is dead in the USA. Maybe overseas is more popular?

Is 3D still a thing at the Theater?

E Unit 01-19-18 11:15 AM

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It isn’t dead and there was already a 3D glassesless TV demo’d. It’ll be back in the next few years.

But if you’re wanting it get rid of 3D discs, I’ll gladly buy them from you at $5 a disc.

hdnmickey 01-19-18 11:18 AM

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Including 3D has been pointless for many years now. A great example of a new and cool fad that went away quickly for most people. You can't even unload the 3D disc from a combo pack for much anymore given the extreme drop in interest.

Brian T 01-19-18 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Gizmo (Post 13249756)
Is 3D still a thing at the Theater?

On virtually every big-budget franchise or animated picture that comes along, it seems. But thankfully there are always 2D options for those who don't care for it.


Originally Posted by hdnmickey (Post 13249830)
Including 3D has been pointless for many years now. A great example of a new and cool fad that went away quickly for most people. You can't even unload the 3D disc from a combo pack for much anymore given the extreme drop in interest.

Tell that to the people selling them on eBay and elsewhere when they go out of print! ;) Even up here, I can resell still-in-print U.K.-only 3D sets for two to three times what they cost to import (latest example: 3D editions of the generally awful Tom Cruise Mummy picture = $$$). And they always sell. Anybody can see that 3D was, is and always will be a niche -- something the studios clearly never understood, and something the naysayers can't help but point out so obviously -- but it's a passionate one. :)

PerryD 01-19-18 11:57 AM

Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray
 
When I went to see Star Wars on the opening weekend, probably 2/3rd of the showings were in 3D, so I was very limited in the showings to see it in non-3D (like 9am and 7pm).

I bought a LG OLED 2016 model specifically because 3D was going away in future models. Thankfully, 3D is still added to Sony's 4K front projectors which will be my next upgrade.

Guardians of the Galaxy 2 on Blu-ray 3D was so much better than when I watched it in 4K.

Decker 01-19-18 12:34 PM

Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray
 
Can't believe that Best Buy isn't offering a 4K Steelbook for this. :grumble:

OldBoy 01-19-18 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BSTNFAN (Post 13249706)
I got an email from Zavvi this morning for the 3D steelbook.

placed an order immediately. thanks!!! can't wait for this and Thor 3...

mattysemo247 01-19-18 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Decker (Post 13249912)
Can't believe that Best Buy isn't offering a 4K Steelbook for this. :grumble:

They didn't for Cars 3 either. Maybe it's a Pixar thing.

rexinnih 01-20-18 07:31 PM

Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray
 
Put my order into Zavvi also. Thanks for the heads up.

mattysemo247 02-17-18 06:11 AM

Re: COCO: 4k Ultra HD / Blu-ray
 
Slightly disappointing 4K review

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Coco-4...193147/#Review

Alan Smithee 02-17-18 09:39 AM

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And I can guess why... :)

Gizmo 02-17-18 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee (Post 13271382)
And I can guess why... :)

I'm fully expecting them to toss in an HD DVD disc at this point if they toss in a 3D disc.

OldBoy 02-17-18 01:07 PM

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can't wait to see this is 3D!


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