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Mike86 04-05-17 03:24 PM
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Honestly I get tired of Harley in general and feel that she's pretty overused but in this case I'm happy just because overall I like the idea of this movie.

Rypro 525 04-06-17 07:15 AM
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Anyone wanna bet that the Batman And Harley movie ends up being R rated? As even the new Justice League Dark movie was

mattysemo247 04-06-17 08:28 AM
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I don't think they are going to abuse the R rating too much. Overall, they still want to try to sell as many as these as possible, and there are a ton of kid's parents that won't buy an R rated Batman animated movie. They can still get away with a ton of shit with a PG-13 rating, like they did in both of the Dark Knight Returns movies.

hdnmickey 04-06-17 09:27 AM
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What's really strange, at least to me, is that these R rated ones don't really have real R rated content. If you are going that route, up the language, sex, or violence and make the loss of some of your "will not buy R for my kids" loss worth it!

Mike86 04-06-17 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Rypro 525 (Post 13047782)
Anyone wanna bet that the Batman And Harley movie ends up being R rated? As even the new Justice League Dark movie was
I kind of doubt it. Bruce Timm talks about how the film is lighter in tone compared to some of the more recent output which he acknowledged as more dark in the featurette posted by dex14.

Neil M. 04-06-17 01:57 PM
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I don't really get the whole R thing. It seems more like a marketing gimmick to me.

On another note, I just watched Teen Titans: The Judas Contract and thought it was pretty good.

Mike86 04-06-17 02:35 PM
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I don't mind them going for an R rating when the story justifies it but yeah it does feel a bit like they're trying to use it as a gimmick to a degree. Like The Killing Joke made sense to be R but I don't really think that Justice League Dark had to be. Same goes with the re-release of Wonder Woman with an R. I can't really imagine what would be added to warrant that. I was surprised that the two movies based on The Dark Knight Returns weren't R as that's a darker storyline.

hdnmickey 04-06-17 03:19 PM
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The was nothing in The Killing Joke that justified an R. Pure gimmick. It's like they asked for the R so people would feel the adaption was more genuine.

Kedrix 04-06-17 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by hdnmickey (Post 13048164)
The was nothing in The Killing Joke that justified an R. Pure gimmick. It's like they asked for the R so people would feel the adaption was more genuine.
I'll spoiler it just in case...but
Spoiler:

the BDSMish type stuff with Gordon was in my opinion "R"ish. Now the rape scene between Bat Girl and Joker or sex scene with Bat Girl and Batman was iffy, I could go either way (but slant towards PG13)...but the Gordon one was the only one that felt like it was pushing the envelope.

Mike86 04-06-17 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by hdnmickey (Post 13048164)
The was nothing in The Killing Joke that justified an R. Pure gimmick. It's like they asked for the R so people would feel the adaption was more genuine.
Realistically they probably could have gotten by with a PG-13 I agree but like Kedrix pointed out there are a few things that can probably slant it more in the R direction. I didn't really have a problem with that one since it is one of the darker stories that's been adapted. I do think now they're doing it to try and make it seem like they're edgy or something when a lot of times the rating doesn't feel justified.

PhantomStranger 04-06-17 03:28 PM
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The 'R' rating is purely for marketing reasons. While I am sure loads of teenagers will end up seeing these animated features, Warner is going after the adult consumers that actually buy these movies.

hdnmickey 04-06-17 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Kedrix (Post 13048168)
I'll spoiler it just in case...but
Spoiler:

the BDSMish type stuff with Gordon was in my opinion "R"ish. Now the rape scene between Bat Girl and Joker or sex scene with Bat Girl and Batman was iffy, I could go either way (but slant towards PG13)...but the Gordon one was the only one that felt like it was pushing the envelope.
All perfect examples of stopping short to keep the PG13 rating. I actually kept waiting to see something go further, since the box said R, but it never got there.

mattysemo247 04-06-17 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Neil M. (Post 13048094)
On another note, I just watched Teen Titans: The Judas Contract and thought it was pretty good.
Was it better than Justice League vs Teen Titans? I thought that one was one of the weaker entries in the animated universe.

Kedrix 04-06-17 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mattysemo247 (Post 13048199)
Was it better than Justice League vs Teen Titans? I thought that one was one of the weaker entries in the animated universe.
It supposed to be a lot better than JL vs TT...however I really liked JL vs TT anyway, but then I'm a sucker for anything Robin/Nightwing (and the fact I'm getting both is a bonus).

mrhan 04-06-17 08:52 PM
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I thought Judas Contract was average at best. It really only took elements of the original story and put it in a modern setting. I remember reading 10 years ago or so when Bruce Timm was working on the adaptation that it was going to be faithful to the comic book. What really turned me off was...

Spoiler:
when they were experimenting on the guy that looked exactly like Jericho and then they killed him. Was that a nod to the fans of the Wolfman/Perez TT? If it was it was weak; reminded me of what they did to Jimmy Olsen in BvS. Why bother designing a character to look exactly like a comic book character and then killing him off? Lame.

OldBoy 04-06-17 09:26 PM
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I just preordered the SteelBook. Came to $17.75 with shipping bc of gc. That way I won't have to bother with eBay and won't be able to get to store...

GoldenJCJ 04-06-17 09:32 PM
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I finally got around to watching Justice League Dark last night. I enjoyed it quite a bit but calling it a Justice League movie is pushing it. It's a fun Constantine movie though.

Hokeyboy 04-06-17 09:54 PM
Re: DC Animated Universe Films
 
Originally Posted by mrhan (Post 13048391)
I thought Judas Contract was average at best. It really only took elements of the original story and put it in a modern setting. I remember reading 10 years ago or so when Bruce Timm was working on the adaptation that it was going to be faithful to the comic book. What really turned me off was...

Spoiler:
when they were experimenting on the guy that looked exactly like Jericho and then they killed him. Was that a nod to the fans of the Wolfman/Perez TT? If it was it was weak; reminded me of what they did to Jimmy Olsen in BvS. Why bother designing a character to look exactly like a comic book character and then killing him off? Lame.
Did you watch the after-credits sequence?
Spoiler:
Jericho lives. He opens his eyes as they play Blood's dialogue about how, even in the dead, there's always a small spark of life.


Anyway, I'm liking who they're bringing on as the next Titan. And glad it ain't Danny Chase or Pantha! #FullTaffer

mrhan 04-07-17 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Hokeyboy (Post 13048458)
Did you watch the after-credits sequence?
Spoiler:
Jericho lives. He opens his eyes as they play Blood's dialogue about how, even in the dead, there's always a small spark of life.


Anyway, I'm liking who they're bringing on as the next Titan. And glad it ain't Danny Chase or Pantha! #FullTaffer
Yeah, it's about time they bought this character on. As for the ending I didn't see it the first time and...


Spoiler:
it sort of opens up why Slade hates the Titans if they decide to go in that direction. It can be a whole flashback to the first 2 issues of the 80's Titans series. I also think they should have had Cyborg in the story instead of the Blue Beetle. They also missed the opportunity to introduce Mal. That's where I thought they were going with the story when Beetle went to Gabriel's Horn. They might as well done that since they already bought Jericho in.


I also think that they handled the Judas Contract storyline a whole lot better in the original Titans TV series.

PhantomStranger 04-07-17 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ (Post 13048422)
I finally got around to watching Justice League Dark last night. I enjoyed it quite a bit but calling it a Justice League movie is pushing it. It's a fun Constantine movie though.
The story didn't really need Batman either, but WB is scared casual fans won't pick it up without him.

I liked Justice League Dark a lot but I've always been a fan of Zatanna and the other mystic DC heroes.

GoldenJCJ 04-07-17 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 13048948)
The story didn't really need Batman either, but WB is scared casual fans won't pick it up without him.

I liked Justice League Dark a lot but I've always been a fan of Zatanna and the other mystic DC heroes.
As I was watching it I kept thinking that Batman was just a third wheel the whole time. :lol:

hanshotfirst1138 04-08-17 07:19 AM
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My VUDU version of Dark doesn't have a post credits scene, is that exclusive to the BD or something?

PhantomStranger 04-09-17 12:11 AM
Re: DC Animated Universe Films
 
Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138 (Post 13049296)
My VUDU version of Dark doesn't have a post credits scene, is that exclusive to the BD or something?
I think they are talking about the new Judas Contract movie, which hasn't technically been released yet on BD.

Red Hood 04-17-17 09:11 PM
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No Best Buy exclusive for the Judas Contract?

TheMovieman 04-17-17 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Hood (Post 13055393)
No Best Buy exclusive for the Judas Contract?
Doesn't look like it.


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