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Old 04-16-15 | 01:12 PM
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Why is BD-Live even around? When I put in a disc I want to play what's in the disc. Not what I have to get out of the disc to get handed over to BD-Live to some boring interface.
Old 04-24-15 | 09:45 PM
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Old 04-25-15 | 12:46 AM
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This is $25 at Family Video.
Old 04-25-15 | 01:02 PM
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i would've liked a mention of extras, but looks and sounds real good.
Old 04-27-15 | 06:27 AM
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This is $25 at Family Video.
Same price at Best Buy.

Still too high for me - it's going to have to be under $20 for me to bite. I'm guessing it will drop significantly in about six months.

If that screenshot is correct, it looks like they really screwed up the color timing, IMHO.
Old 04-27-15 | 08:02 AM
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Black Friday purchase if the price is right.
Old 04-27-15 | 09:23 AM
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If that screenshot is correct, it looks like they really screwed up the color timing, IMHO.
Remaster was supervised by Scorsese.
Old 04-27-15 | 09:54 AM
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Remaster was supervised by Scorsese.
James Cameron and Michael Mann have supervised some teal-washed transfers too, I used to be a firm believer in the director being the word of God. These days, I'm quite the skeptic.
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James Cameron and Michael Mann have supervised some teal-washed transfers too, I used to be a firm believer in the director being the word of God. These days, I'm quite the skeptic.
Has Martin Scorsese, creator of the Film Foundation, ever shown a taste for revisionism? The man has never even put out a director's cut. I agree that it does happen from other director's sometimes but all these cynical people on the internet jump to that conclusion every time a new release looks different, citing old DVD era masters as proof.
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Has Martin Scorsese, creator of the Film Foundation, ever shown a taste for revisionism?
No. In fact, when Thelma Schoonmacher was supervising an HD remaster for The Color of Money, she was asked if she wanted to "correct" the color of the pool tables in certain scenes, because they came out very aquamarine in the original release prints due to issues with the lighting and film stock. She consulted with Scorsese, and they decided to leave the movie as is.

Sadly, when Paramount later issued a Blu-ray of the movie, they used an older DVD master, not the one Schoonmacher worked on.

(I have not seen the new Goodfellas disc yet and can't comment on it.)

The man has never even put out a director's cut.
Scorsese's only "Director's Cut" is New York, New York.
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I've heard Scorsese say that there's some things here and there in some of his films that could use a touch up, both technical and narrative stuff, but that once he's done, he's done, moving on to the next project and would rather not dwell on it as it would frustrate him. "art is never finished, just abandoned"
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Originally Posted by DaveyJoe
Has Martin Scorsese, creator of the Film Foundation, ever shown a taste for revisionism? The man has never even put out a director's cut. I agree that it does happen from other director's sometimes but all these cynical people on the internet jump to that conclusion every time a new release looks different, citing old DVD era masters as proof.
I'm not saying that he in particular does, I am just saying that I have become increasingly skeptical of "director approved" remasters, that is all.
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I'm not saying that he in particular does, I am just saying that I have become increasingly skeptical of "director approved" remasters, that is all.
And I'm saying it should mean something to you when talking about Scorsese. Mann and Cameron do not represent all directors.
Old 04-27-15 | 01:08 PM
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And I'm saying it should mean something to you when talking about Scorsese. Mann and Cameron do not represent all directors.
Very true, very true.
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What directors CAN we trust when it comes to remasters?
Old 04-27-15 | 02:18 PM
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Well, from what was mentioned above, Scorsese. And the two Spielberg-approved Blu-Rays I have-Jaws and E.T.-look pretty stunning. Criterion don't ever eliminate grain, to the point where occasionally some of their stuff will look a little awash in it. For most movies made after the 2000s, I'd imagine that they just take the masters right off of the DIs. 1080p is so close to 2K that the downscaling is probably fairly minor.
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What directors CAN we trust when it comes to remasters?
David Lynch. He did a great job making sure FIRE WALK WITH ME looked and sounded like the theatrical version, which prior (foreign) Blu-ray releases did not.
Old 04-28-15 | 12:04 PM
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David Lynch. He did a great job making sure FIRE WALK WITH ME looked and sounded like the theatrical version, which prior (foreign) Blu-ray releases did not.
There's not a tremendous amount of difference between the foreign and domestic Blu-rays of Fire Walk With Me, aside from the issue of English subtitles during the Pink Room scene. Lynch had also approved the MK2 master that's the basis for most foreign Blu-rays. He then later supervised a newer master for the domestic release. The new one is slightly brighter, sharper and has a minor red push, but it's not a dramatic difference.

The UK Blu-ray is botched due to the studio encoding it as 1080i/50 with sped-up video and audio, but the French and Japanese Blu-rays are very good.
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There's not a tremendous amount of difference between the foreign and domestic Blu-rays of Fire Walk With Me, aside from the issue of English subtitles during the Pink Room scene. Lynch had also approved the MK2 master that's the basis for most foreign Blu-rays. He then later supervised a newer master for the domestic release. The new one is slightly brighter, sharper and has a minor red push, but it's not a dramatic difference.

The UK Blu-ray is botched due to the studio encoding it as 1080i/50 with sped-up video and audio, but the French and Japanese Blu-rays are very good.
I have the French version of FWWM and it looks too bright. The new US version looks fantastic.

Back to GoodFellas - there are a few sites with screenshots out there now, and the film certainly looks different than it has before...I think it's a little too bright as well, but I wonder if all the past home video versions have clouded my memory of what I saw in the theater in 1990. That said, there definitely seems to be a trend to boost contrast on these 4k scans of older films - for good or for ill.
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Mind linking those pics?
Old 04-28-15 | 03:41 PM
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Mind linking those pics?
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Old 04-28-15 | 04:03 PM
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Ooooof. Hrmmmm.

It does look off.
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Can't wait for all the "expert reviewers" that will claim that the previous DVD and BD's had the correct colors. Look at the that shot with Liotta in jail. Wall was supposed to be green?
Old 04-28-15 | 05:14 PM
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Can't wait for all the "expert reviewers" that will claim that the previous DVD and BD's had the correct colors. Look at the that shot with Liotta in jail. Wall was supposed to be green?
The one that bothers me is that the red corvette now looks orange to my eyes.
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Is that Jon Stewart hosted reunion online somewhere?


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