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Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
Originally Posted by bunkaroo
(Post 12191238)
I think this goes without saying by now, but there's absolutely no guarantee content available Netflix, today will be there tomorrow, 5 years from now, 10 years from now...etc.
The same rules apply to cable TV. Or music subscription services. Or the public library. Or PS+/XBL. As long as I maintain hardware, I know my physical library will be there for use. (Cue the tornado/hurricane/act of God arguments) |
Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
Originally Posted by Gizmo
(Post 12191256)
But with no Netflix you still have Amazon, Hulu, Vudu, iTunes, HBO GO etc.
If you want to watch a movie, you will no doubt be able to find it available for stream (with obvious exceptions). And in 5 years from now, who knows how much easier it will be. Netflix Streaming 5 years ago was laughable. 480p SD, movies were slim etc. We still had Blockbuster and (I think) Hollywood Video! Plus there are probably more movies available in HD compared to Blu-ray. Remember, there are still tons of movies and TV Shows forever stuck on VHS/LD/HD DVD/DVD etc that will never be available in 1080p disc. But with Streaming, they can and have been. It's just at this point, you can actively find just about any movie available on Blu-ray on some sort of streaming site. Before we get the arguments of people that live in the Canadian wilderness...yes, I know. Not everyone has fast internet, etc. but I don't suspect those people are on the bleeding edge of technology either. While you did mention act of god, you can still have someone come in and rob you. Would they take discs? Who knows. But you can access Netflix on your microwave! ;) And honestly, a robbery argument? That's a good reason for not maintaining physical discs? Well shit, I guess I should just sell everything I have in case some steals it first. :lol: |
Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
Originally Posted by Gizmo
(Post 12191226)
But so does Netflix.
That's my main issue now is just about everything I want to see is either on Netflix, Prime, or a $2-4 rental away. Why hold on to these discs? I find that for myself, my ocd compulsive collecting/hoarding habit does not get triggered at all with digital files. |
Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
Originally Posted by Spiderbite
(Post 12191235)
I have gotten to where I only buy the movie I love and rewatch frequently. I am still passing over many movies at $5 each just because I know I will only watch them once and then never watch them again (until the next format/picture upgrade change).
One of my strategies in attempting to squelch my ocd compulsive collecting/hoarding habits, is to watch tv shows in their first-runs and recent movies (from a few years ago) on basic cable channels. When watching movies on basic cable, I find that once I have watched a particular movie already, the bluray has a lot less appeal to me. (Not even as a $5 bluray). In contrast, I find that my hoarding and impulse buying is triggered very easily by bargain bin bluray movies that I haven't seen yet. (Mostly sci-fi/fantasy/action/etc ... type of stuff). For current seasons of tv shows where I have watched most or all of the episodes in their original first-run, I find that the dvd/bluray season sets have very little to no appeal to me. This is the main reason why I haven't picked up any of the dvd/bluray sets of current shows I watch like: Continuum, Orphan Black, The Americans, Under The Dome, NCIS, The Following, etc ... |
Originally Posted by Gizmo
(Post 12191259)
Plenty of movies are available to 'buy' digitally weeks/month(s) before the disc comes out. That coupon would appeal to them. I know someone who actively buys digital movies as she got tired of her kids losing/scratching discs. Those movies are available on a multitude of devices to keep them quiet when needed. So there is a market, just not to people like you and me who wouldn't pay the same price to own digitally and a disc.
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Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
I'm also finding that in not buying a particular tv show or movie franchise on bluray/dvd, helps quite a lot in curbing my ocd compulsive collecting/hoarding habits.
Basically it means not jumping onto the show/franchise "treadmill" in the first place. In practice I find that once I start buying the dvds/blurays of a tv show or movie franchise, my ocd compulsive collecting/hoarding habits start going into overdrive where I want to buy every respective season or sequel in order to "complete" my collection. EDIT: (This type of mentality is similar to that of a hardcore alcoholic who can't have just *one* drink). EDIT2: A big part of the ocd compulsive collecting/hoarding mentality for me, is also being a "compulsive completionist". |
Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
My desire to accumulate tons of discs has been gone for a while now. Streaming is fine for rentals. But getting rid of my existing discs in favor of streaming - that's stupid IMO. Of course I'm not living in a shoebox and I've got more than enough space to devote to them. If I was living in an apartment in NYC for example, I'm sure they'd be in binders or something like that.
It's also rare I watch something away from home, so I have no need to the portability streaming offers. |
Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
One of my strategies in attempting to squelch my ocd compulsive collecting/hoarding habits, is to watch tv shows in their first-runs and recent movies (from a few years ago) on basic cable channels. Those "digital copy" codes that come with most new discs have worked out as I've been trading them with people on Facebook for codes for different movies, but I still don't feel like I really "own" those that I've traded for. I also don't live in the wilderness and have decent internet that can usually play HDX movies, but one time I was set to watch one of my Ultraviolet movies and the damn thing kept stopping to buffer! I would've been extremely pissed if that were a movie I'd paid $20 or so for and not being able to watch it because of that. I ended up watching it a week later when everything was behaving. |
Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
(Post 12191860)
You're OCD and you can actually WATCH network TV and basic cable channels??? One of my (arguably faulty) reasons for collecting discs is that I don't throw money away on cable, and I rarely spend as much on discs per month as I would on a cable subscription (where I'd essentially be paying someone else to tell me what to watch, with lots of commercials and screen clutter).
Those "digital copy" codes that come with most new discs have worked out as I've been trading them with people on Facebook for codes for different movies, but I still don't feel like I really "own" those that I've traded for. I also don't live in the wilderness and have decent internet that can usually play HDX movies, but one time I was set to watch one of my Ultraviolet movies and the damn thing kept stopping to buffer! I would've been extremely pissed if that were a movie I'd paid $20 or so for and not being able to watch it because of that. I ended up watching it a week later when everything was behaving. No, you throw your money away on archaic items that have zero value. |
Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
Originally Posted by morriscroy
(Post 12191328)
(On a huge tangent).
I find that for myself, my ocd compulsive collecting/hoarding habit does not get triggered at all with digital files. Are these digital collections transferable (can you buy, sell, and trade with other parties)? If not, you don't own it. No more than you own the movies/tv shows you stream from netflix. |
Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
I doubt that's the reason, it's much more likely that part of the hoarding mentality is being able to physically see and handle the items one is hoarding. With digital, you never get that tactile physical reaction. It doesn't matter if you have 1 GB of movies of 1 TB of movies, you never see any physical changes in your collection. You can't hold them in your hand, etc.
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Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
If it's a movie or television show you enjoy and think May have replay value for you in the future, then buy it if you have the cash. I agree as mentioned, it's stupid to sell your discs of stuff you like in favor of streaming it instead. Everything that is licensed to Netflix or Amazon or even the premium channel streaming services has an expiration date at some point. They won't be around forever. Licenses expire eventually.
I'm not going to sell my 5 seasons of Fringe or Chuck on BD for chump change just to clear out some tiny shelf space thinking oh, I can watch the episodes anytime on Amazon Prime. It's not going to be there forever. |
Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138
(Post 12191254)
I got a $3 coupon from Paramount and went onto their Ultraviolet site, only to find stuff priced at around $15 and up. What's the point? When a digital new release is priced slightly below the physical copy, which comes with a UV code anyway, I see no point. If it's one-and-done watching streaming is ideal though, especially for rentals. But if I want to own it, I want a physical copy.
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Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
Originally Posted by Supermallet
(Post 12192039)
I doubt that's the reason, it's much more likely that part of the hoarding mentality is being able to physically see and handle the items one is hoarding. With digital, you never get that tactile physical reaction. It doesn't matter if you have 1 GB of movies of 1 TB of movies, you never see any physical changes in your collection. You can't hold them in your hand, etc.
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Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
Originally Posted by dvdshonna
(Post 12192058)
I'm assuming the typical movie fan hoards movies so they have instant access to a large collection titles. As opposed to collectors who like to accumulate large physcial collections of "collectibles" because they have a mental disorder.
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Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
(Post 12191860)
One of my (arguably faulty) reasons for collecting discs is that I don't throw money away on cable, and I rarely spend as much on discs per month as I would on a cable subscription (where I'd essentially be paying someone else to tell me what to watch, with lots of commercials and screen clutter).
It's a bundled package, where I'm primarily paying for the internet connection part, since they don't use the internet much. So most of the money I'm "throwing away" is for an internet connection, while the other party is mostly paying for the cable tv service. (This arrangement is less expensive than getting separate internet and cable services). |
Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
(Post 12191860)
You're OCD and you can actually WATCH network TV and basic cable channels???
My ocd doesn't get triggered at all when I'm watching network tv and basic cable channels. In practice I find it functions almost like an "anti-ocd" counteracting agent, when it comes to my compulsive collecting/hoarding of dvds/blurays. As mentioned earlier, my OCD doesn't get triggered at all with digital files. Why exactly this is the case, I don't really know (yet). When it comes specifically to ocd compulsive collection/hoarding, I find that objects of interest varies significantly. For example, today I have very little to no interest in a lot of the stuff I use to compulsively collect/hoard before I started collecting/hoarding dvds+blurays. (Some of the older "collections" from before 2011, I already got rid of). |
Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
Originally Posted by morriscroy
(Post 12192230)
For example, today I have very little to no interest in a lot of the stuff I use compulsively collect/hoard before I started collecting/hoarding dvds+blurays. (Some of it I already got rid of).
(Metaphorically it is very similar to a bulimic that eats a large amount of food and later vomits it all out, but over longer time periods).
Originally Posted by DJariya
(Post 12192042)
I'm not going to sell my 5 seasons of Fringe or Chuck on BD for chump change just to clear out some tiny shelf space thinking oh, I can watch the episodes anytime on Amazon Prime. It's not going to be there forever.
Some of the stuff I use to compulsively collect/hoard in the past, I haven't purged yet. For example, I still have my old vinyl record and music cd collections. (I hardly play the music cds these days, and haven't played any of the vinyl records in over a decade). |
Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
Originally Posted by dvdshonna
(Post 12192058)
collectors who like to accumulate large physical collections of "collectibles" because they have a mental disorder.
Before I started collecting/hoarding dvds and blurays in 2011, I was previously collecting/hoarding Star Trek novels. (I hardly read any of them). It was stuff I mostly found at thrift stores, book fairs, cutouts, etc ... for around 50 cents each (or less). |
Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
If you want to get rid of your vinyl records, I'll pay for you to ship them to me. :)
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Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
Originally Posted by dvdshonna
(Post 12192028)
Originally Posted by morriscroy
(Post 12191328)
(On a huge tangent).
I find that for myself, my ocd compulsive collecting/hoarding habit does not get triggered at all with digital files. Are these digital collections transferable (can you buy, sell, and trade with other parties)? If not, you don't own it. No more than you own the movies/tv shows you stream from netflix.
Originally Posted by Supermallet
(Post 12192039)
I doubt that's the reason, it's much more likely that part of the hoarding mentality is being able to physically see and handle the items one is hoarding. With digital, you never get that tactile physical reaction. It doesn't matter if you have 1 GB of movies of 1 TB of movies, you never see any physical changes in your collection. You can't hold them in your hand, etc.
I suspect things are a lot more complicated than this. I can think of one huge counterexample to this. It involved "collecting" intangible abstract "objects". (Hoarding doesn't really apply in this sense). When I was younger, my ocd compulsive collecting habit manifested itself in the form of attempting to find and "collect" every single failed physical theory. (ie. Theories that are never mentioned anymore in physics textbooks). Back then, I was fascinated by wrong theories and why some physicists/mathematicians believed in them in the past. It was such a huge time consuming obsession to me, that I almost flunked out of college from not paying as much attention to the courses I was taking at the time. |
Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
Originally Posted by Supermallet
(Post 12192294)
If you want to get rid of your vinyl records, I'll pay for you to ship them to me. :)
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Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
(This may sound like it's stating the obvious).
One semi-effective way of squelching my ocd compulsive collecting/hoarding habits (and impulse buying), is to restrict my purchases to bluray. In addition, I don't bother buying any blurays that are not widely available at retail bricks-and-mortar stores, such as stuff released by Twilight Time, Warner Archive, etc ... (I make these efforts at doing so, but it's not always easy and I'm not always successful). In practice, I find this is very effective when it comes to current tv show season sets, due to the fact that hardly any tv shows are released on bluray. For movies, I have very little to no interest in the current batch of new movies in theaters. So most of my bluray purchases are older catalog titles, which has a much smaller selection than dvd. (ie. Less impulse buying). |
Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
Originally Posted by dvdshonna
(Post 12192028)
For good reason. To access a digital "collection" you are relying on your ISP and whatever they decide to charge you. And if the service hosting your digital "collection" goes bankrupt, I'm betting that's the end of your "collection"
Are these digital collections transferable (can you buy, sell, and trade with other parties)? If not, you don't own it. No more than you own the movies/tv shows you stream from netflix. For clarification, I used the term "digital file" in a more general sense. (ie. Not just specific to music, movies and tv shows). For example, I find that my ocd compulsive collecting/hoarding habit is not triggered at all by digital books or pdf files of books/articles/papers (such as on archive.org). For that matter, I never had any interest in collecting/hoarding pirated software. In contrast, back in the day I had some offline acquaintances who were heavily into the "warez" scene, where they would be finding and downloading tons of pirated software for the sake of collecting/hoarding it. (ie. They never actually used any of the software they acquired). I would guess for these particular acquaintances, their OCD manifested itself and went into overdrive when it came to pirated software. But for whatever reasons, my OCD was never triggered by it at all. |
Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
I too am "All about the Tangible/OCD," type collector; thou most digital shows do not have commercials and don't take a bit to upload, I truly like the picture quality from a disc.
Its been about a year since I got rid of my cable and starting using Hulu and Netflix to watch tv. Recently I dropped Netflix as I was having too many issues with content freezing up and so signed up with Amazon Prime. In addition, shows like "The Mentalist," Archer," and "Mad Men" which are not on Hulu; so I started buying episodes on Amazon. In short I have opted to buy some content through Amazon and some things I really still want the Tangible item. The hardest part is determining which items I truly want in a tangible form. |
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