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dvdshonna 08-04-14 11:37 PM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 

Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 12189781)
i don't know now if i would cry for joy or sadness if Blu-ray were to go away...

I believe there will still be new releases on DVD, long after Blu-rays discs are gone.

hanshotfirst1138 08-04-14 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 12189718)
Nudge nudge wink wink say no more say no more I agree. 4k is going to be relegated to some very high profile titles, with likely very few special features. And that's if there even is a physical format.

I'm not sure it could be any other kind of format, the data load would be too huge for streaming.

morriscroy 08-05-14 12:06 AM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 

Originally Posted by dvdshonna (Post 12189970)
I believe there will still be new releases on DVD, long after Blu-rays discs are gone.

What would be ironic and sad at the same time, is if dvd ends up becoming the "energizer bunny" or "cockroach" of the physical packaged media market for movies and tv shows.

Especially if dvd is still alive and well, after all the outstanding dvd patents have expired.

Supermallet 08-05-14 01:04 AM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138 (Post 12189978)
I'm not sure it could be any other kind of format, the data load would be too huge for streaming.

Well Netflix already has 4k versions of Breaking Bad and House of Cards ready:

http://gizmodo.com/breaking-bad-is-n...lix-1591610250
http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/8/559...house-of-cards

Gizmo 08-05-14 09:31 AM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 
I'm currently buying about 8-10 BDs a year now. Only must-have films/TV, or upgrades. This year I can only recall buying 3-4 BDs so far (still have yet to buy Grand Budapest as I'm waiting for that to drop in price).

The magic and passion just isn't there anymore, especially when they have become de-valued so quickly. Back in the day you could buy a DVD/HD DVD/BD and sell it a few weeks/months later for a loss, but not pennies on the dollar. Now it seems you're lucky to get $5 for a BD if it's fairly new. With the release of these triple/quad packs, it's really de-valued catalog.

I'd love to own Twin Peaks, but the current $80 is just ridiculous when I know it's going to drop to $50 or less in a few months. When you can regular get the complete Planet of the Apes, Nightmare on Elm, Jurassic Park, Back to the Future etc. for $20 or less... why spend any more?

Right now I'm purging. It's a slow game, but I've been selling a few BDs each week on eBay listing at fairly decent prices.

4k, disc-wise, I just don't see happening. Do they even have a release date? I have not been following it.

morriscroy 08-05-14 12:00 PM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 

Originally Posted by Gizmo (Post 12190161)
I'm currently buying about 8-10 BDs a year now. Only must-have films/TV, or upgrades. This year I can only recall buying 3-4 BDs so far (still have yet to buy Grand Budapest as I'm waiting for that to drop in price).

The magic and passion just isn't there anymore, especially when they have become de-valued so quickly. Back in the day you could buy a DVD/HD DVD/BD and sell it a few weeks/months later for a loss, but not pennies on the dollar. Now it seems you're lucky to get $5 for a BD if it's fairly new. With the release of these triple/quad packs, it's really de-valued catalog.

I'd love to own Twin Peaks, but the current $80 is just ridiculous when I know it's going to drop to $50 or less in a few months. When you can regular get the complete Planet of the Apes, Nightmare on Elm, Jurassic Park, Back to the Future etc. for $20 or less... why spend any more?

I've been making some "valiant" efforts to limit my buying, largely for the reason that I have a huge backlog of unwatched tv show dvd/bluray season sets. (Not exactly easy to counteract ocd compulsive hoarding habits).

Lately I've been binge watching through the original Dallas. It will take quite a bit of time to eventually reach the season 14 dvd set. (Presently I'm mid way through the season 5 dvd set).

No point in buying more stuff that ends up collecting dust on my bookshelves, even if they're movies/shows that I like. If I'm still interested at a future date, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of that stuff ends up being $5 (or less) bargain bin fodder.

OldBoy 08-05-14 12:49 PM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 
i dunno, i've limited myself too. i am not as extravagant as i used to be. and thank god for that!

morriscroy 08-05-14 12:56 PM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 

Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 12190389)
i dunno, i've limited myself too. i am not as extravagant as i used to be. and thank god for that!

When I first started buying a lot of dvds/bluray in 2011, a lot of good stuff I was interested in was already in the $5 dump bins (or less).

It was easy to go on huge buying binges when many bluray movies I wanted were $5 a pop (or less), and tv season sets were around $10-$15 a pop (or less).

This very much works against me, whenever I (futilely) attempt to control my compulsive hoarding habits. In many ways, it's almost like trying to quit smoking.

DJariya 08-05-14 01:05 PM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 
I admit, I had quite a few impulse purchases over the years from movies and TV shows that don't have much or any replay value.

Is that where alot of the "remorse" some of you are claiming to have is coming from? I mean are you looking at your shelves and closets and thinking I could have had hundreds or thousands or dollars in the bank or be taking a nice vacation instead of having so much worthless crap on my shelves that I will never watch again?

It is what it is. There are many posters here who say that don't like or believe in renting. That's what you get for stocking up on 1-view only movies.

In the last year or so, I've cut down on buying alot and have been renting more and honestly I've gotten alot more gratification renting and being able to watch more and not break the bank thinking I absolutely have to have these titles when I don't. There are a few movies I rented recently that I saw in theaters and watching it again via paying only $2 to rent it really helped me determine if it has replay value even though I liked it in theaters and alot of times the answer was no.


Some of you just have to get the whole "collector" mentality out of your heads. I'm sticking more to stuff that I love & will want to re-visit as opposed to just collecting and letting it gather dust on my shelves. These aren't baseball cards. Why would you want to pay $15 for a new BD that you only enjoyed seeing once just to stare at the case on your bookshelf?

I don't need to own every single Scream Factory Horror BD that is announced. I don't need to own the Leprechaun movie series set. They're horrible movies with no replay value IMO. I don't need to collect it for it's campiness.

morriscroy 08-05-14 01:16 PM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 12190411)
Is that where alot of the "remorse" some of you are claiming to have is coming from? I mean are you looking at your shelves and closets and thinking I could have had hundreds or thousands or dollars in the bank or be taking a nice vacation instead of having so much worthless crap on my shelves that I will never watch again?

For me the accumulation of clutter is largely a secondary byproduct. With dvds/blurays being very inexpensive, I'm not breaking the bank either.

In my case, the feelings of "remorse" is more along the lines of a personal failure in not being able to control my ocd compulsive hoarding habits, after numerous repeated attempts which all ended in failure. As I mentioned previously, it feels very similar to trying to quit smoking and the numerous failed attempts at doing so.

EDIT: The actual objects of interest for hoarding is largely irrelevant. Before 2011, I was compulsively collecting/hoarding other different objects of interest (completely unrelated to dvds/blurays).

morriscroy 08-05-14 01:26 PM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 12190411)
Some of you just have to get the whole "collector" mentality out of your heads. I'm sticking more to stuff that I love & will want to re-visit as opposed to just collecting and letting it gather dust on my shelves. These aren't baseball cards.

Easier said than done.

It would be similar to telling a person with clinical depression to be "happy" (ie. by thinking happy thoughts, etc ...).

morriscroy 08-05-14 01:35 PM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 
Over the last several years, I was rationalizing to myself that it was better to compulsively collect/hoard dvds and blurays, than when I use to smoke 2 or 3 packs of cigarettes every day.

In hindsight, I was completely wrong and largely lying to myself.

Loc Nar 08-05-14 01:44 PM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 
No remorse here, but that may be largely due to the fact that a key reason why I started and continue to maintain my collection of DVD's/BD's is to have them on hand to watch with my kids (ages 16, 13 and 8) as they grow up. You never know when those movie-time opportunities will present themselves, and I love having a quality library ready to go at a moment's notice.

orangerunner 08-05-14 02:38 PM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 
Collecting is a double-edge sword for me.

On one hand it's nice to have something physical to show for the money you spent.

On the other hand, having something physical around as a reminder of how much money you spent can also be daunting.

I have have about 300 HD-DVD discs (and 6 players) that cost me a total of $450.

I have 240 Blu-rays that averaged just under $5 each.

600 DVDs have probably averaged out at $1.50 each because 80% of my collection was purchased in the last four years.

So many things i've bought over the years such as movie rentals, attending sporting events, beer, dinners out etc. have all added up to much more money but because there is nothing physical to remind you how much money you've spent on these things, it is easier to simply forget about the actual costs involved.

With DVDs, the evidence is sitting right there on the shelf.

davidlynchfan 08-05-14 06:14 PM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 

Originally Posted by asianxcore (Post 12183844)
^

What I've noticed on other Movie or Blu-Ray sites is that people have lost track of their love of film and just buy anything and everything that comes out.

Perfectly fine by me if it helps keep the format afloat.

Iron_Giant 08-05-14 07:57 PM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 
No buyers remorse, love movie and I love collecting them.

But, it has slowed down because there is not the titles I want to buy anymore.

I picked up my classics (GWTW, Wizard of Oz, Star Wars...) and upgraded the movie I watch on DVD.

Now, I pick up one or two movies a month. Then, at Christmas time I will pickup 10 or so at a good price.

My BR Collection is up around 400 or more and I watch a large chunk of those throughout the year.

Iron_Giant 08-05-14 08:01 PM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 
If I had a ton more money, my BR TV collection would grow, that is another story.
-The only BR TV I have is Smallville.

I really want to pick up the Batman TV show coming out and Agent of Shield.
(and Flash after if's first season)

JimRochester 08-06-14 05:55 AM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 
I have a decent number at 375 and have been in the 300's for years. It will probably take a few years to get the 25 more I need to hit 400. Would rather reduce than grow though.

Spiderbite 08-06-14 08:50 AM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 
This may have already been mentioned but the only BD remorse I get is when I see collections or 2/3/4 packs of movies that I own solo and wished I had them altogether. for example, yesterday in BB i saw they had a new double pack of Airplane! and Airplane2. Having the single disc version of Airplane! kinda bums me out and makes me wish I had just waited for the 2 pack. There are lots of other packs like this as well.

Gizmo 08-06-14 09:02 AM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 

Originally Posted by Loc Nar (Post 12190460)
No remorse here, but that may be largely due to the fact that a key reason why I started and continue to maintain my collection of DVD's/BD's is to have them on hand to watch with my kids (ages 16, 13 and 8) as they grow up. You never know when those movie-time opportunities will present themselves, and I love having a quality library ready to go at a moment's notice.

But so does Netflix.

That's my main issue now is just about everything I want to see is either on Netflix, Prime, or a $2-4 rental away. Why hold on to these discs?

Spiderbite 08-06-14 09:11 AM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 

Originally Posted by Gizmo (Post 12191226)
But so does Netflix.

That's my main issue now is just about everything I want to see is either on Netflix, Prime, or a $2-4 rental away. Why hold on to these discs?

If it is a movie I love: Better picture quality. Better sound quality. No buffering. No stuttering. No random drop in picture quality during the movie. Can still watch something when the internet connection is acting funky.

I have a higher end amp and speakers and there is no question the sound is always better when watching from a BD vs. streaming. Same with picture quality (but then I am watching from a projector onto a 118" screen). I can see a large difference.

Also, even though I have a high speed internet connection package with my cable company (60 mps supposedly), it still will have fits sometimes. Stops and starts, buffering, drops in picture quality at times, etc. I still have a disc plan with Netflix and never plan to cancel it. I prefer to watch on disc whenever possible. I just wish Netflix would start carrying more BDs (like Scream Factory's stuff for example).

I have gotten to where I only buy the movie I love and rewatch frequently. I am still passing over many movies at $5 each just because I know I will only watch them once and then never watch them again (until the next format/picture upgrade change).

bunkaroo 08-06-14 09:12 AM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 
I think this goes without saying by now, but there's absolutely no guarantee content available Netflix, today will be there tomorrow, 5 years from now, 10 years from now...etc. As long as I maintain hardware, I know my physical library will be there for use.

(Cue the tornado/hurricane/act of God arguments)

hanshotfirst1138 08-06-14 09:25 AM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 
I got a $3 coupon from Paramount and went onto their Ultraviolet site, only to find stuff priced at around $15 and up. What's the point? When a digital new release is priced slightly below the physical copy, which comes with a UV code anyway, I see no point. If it's one-and-done watching streaming is ideal though, especially for rentals. But if I want to own it, I want a physical copy.

Gizmo 08-06-14 09:25 AM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 

Originally Posted by bunkaroo (Post 12191238)
I think this goes without saying by now, but there's absolutely no guarantee content available Netflix, today will be there tomorrow, 5 years from now, 10 years from now...etc. As long as I maintain hardware, I know my physical library will be there for use.

(Cue the tornado/hurricane/act of God arguments)

But with no Netflix you still have Amazon, Hulu, Vudu, iTunes, HBO GO etc.

If you want to watch a movie, you will no doubt be able to find it available for stream (with obvious exceptions). And in 5 years from now, who knows how much easier it will be. Netflix Streaming 5 years ago was laughable. 480p SD, movies were slim etc. We still had Blockbuster and (I think) Hollywood Video!

Plus there are probably more movies available in HD compared to Blu-ray. Remember, there are still tons of movies and TV Shows forever stuck on VHS/LD/HD DVD/DVD etc that will never be available in 1080p disc. But with Streaming, they can and have been.

It's just at this point, you can actively find just about any movie available on Blu-ray on some sort of streaming site.

Before we get the arguments of people that live in the Canadian wilderness...yes, I know. Not everyone has fast internet, etc. but I don't suspect those people are on the bleeding edge of technology either.

While you did mention act of god, you can still have someone come in and rob you. Would they take discs? Who knows. But you can access Netflix on your microwave! ;)

Gizmo 08-06-14 09:27 AM

Re: Are you getting Blu-ray remorse?
 

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138 (Post 12191254)
I got a $3 coupon from Paramount and went onto their Ultraviolet site, only to find stuff priced at around $15 and up. What's the point? When a digital new release is priced slightly below the physical copy, which comes with a UV code anyway, I see no point. If it's one-and-done watching streaming is ideal though, especially for rentals. But if I want to own it, I want a physical copy.

Plenty of movies are available to 'buy' digitally weeks/month(s) before the disc comes out. That coupon would appeal to them. I know someone who actively buys digital movies as she got tired of her kids losing/scratching discs. Those movies are available on a multitude of devices to keep them quite when needed.

So there is a market, just not to people like you and me who wouldn't pay the same price to own digitally and a disc.


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