I own a full screen TV, & my understanding is this edition is also Full screen.

If anyone buys the Yellow Sub blu-ray, could you please tell me:

A. Is it window boxed (I expect it will be)
B. If so, is zoom allowed on this disc?

I own 2 fs blu-ray discs. Casablanca allow me to zoom 1.20% to defeat the window boxing, while African Queen does not. This is a GUESS, but the zoom defeat appears to be part of the evil Java copy protection scheme.

....doesn't zoom fuck up the image a bit in quality?

Not 20% zoom on a blu-ray with 1080p being down sampled to 480i. On a high def set it might, & it definitely does on a dvd.

...but if you're down sampling the image to 480anything...doesn't that mean a decrease in quality inherently just by that action?

Yes; it would be the same as the dvd when the signal reaches the tv. Reason to buy the br is for the hi rez AUDIO now & for a hi def tv purchase in the future.

Based on what I saw on Casablanca & the fact that I do have one of the best 480i crt tv's ever made (A 36" Sony Wega), it's safe to say that the zoom is applied first, THEN afterwards the down sampling. I.E. no loss in quality on a 480i crt set. The fact my Oppo BDP-95 has a 20% zoom preset is obviously for this very reason.

at any rate, if anyone buys the br & can answer my ? about the zoom feature, would be much appreciated.

The movie is in 1.66:1, so there are slight black bars on the sides of the screen to compensate for 16x9 widescreen TVs. If you're watching it on a 4x3 fullscreen TV, there will be black bars on the top and bottom as well, so yes. It will be windowboxed.

Yes, I figured that. Again, my ? is: Is the zoom feature defeated on this disc by a copyguard as it was on African Queen?

I am hoping that someone who buys the disc on Tuesday (or gets an advance before than) will answer!

Ah, it all makes sense now. You literally don't have a 1080p set. Oooohhhhhhh.

It won't be as bad as African Queen, it will look like any other widescreen film on an 4:3 tv. African Queen was shot at 1.37:1, and since bluray is made for 16:9 displays, window boxed it. You might want to hold off on picking up some older films on blu-ray until you get a newer television if it bothers you too much.

I've realized part of the cause for my (& this thread's confusion). I had previously read a couple weeks ago that it was shot in 1.33:1 & previously incorrectly changed to ws & would be released as 1.33:1 this time around. As Amazon is reporting it at 1:66 you're correct, my original concern is invalid.

Amazon also APPEARS to be reporting no hi rez audio options. I'll walk into BB later this week & look at it.

I also agree with your last comment. i've only become aware of this ieeue recently, & only was interested in the BR version of YS due to a hope of true hi res audio.

I actually mostly bought the Oppo player due to it's audio capabilities; I don't have the best eye sight & dvd is often (not always) good enough, though i can see some difference.

If anyone cares, read this:
http://www.fab4art.com/9968.htm

It does appear that I read it correctly, & that my only error was assuming the new version was going to fix the problem. If the writer at the link is correct, the film was shot in 4.3.

This article contradicts the other one & says it was shot in 1.66:1.
http://www.examiner.com/article/new-...apple-rep-says
Who to believe?!

IMDB lists 1.66:1, and that's what the review on dvdbeaver lists the bluray as being. It was most likely shot at 1.66:1 and cropped for tv/home video release.

Dvdbeaver's review
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdrev..._submarine.htm

It may have been animated at 4:3 in sort of an open matte thing (like Don Bluth's films), but the intended aspect ratio is almost certainly 1.66:1.

BTW, this looks like DNR has reared its ugly head again. There are some smeared edges that look to me like what it does to animation (see the edges of their hands in the shot with them walking in a line, for instance). And if you have any doubts, look at the live-action shot at the end. Yikes! It's much better than the DVD, but it's disappointing.

It should sound good. It indeed has a DTS-HD MA surround track, and 2 PCM stereo tracks. I'm assuming one of them is the music only and the other is the original mono.

Is zoom allowed on this disc? Yes, it is!

Thank you! Now just to find a BB that isn't sold out.........

^ Check out Deep Discount with the $5 coupon....got it for $13.

Not to sound dense, but i am aware of the 25% off sale, but not the $5 coupon. Where would I find it?

It was in the sale thread

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/blu-ray-bar...31-6-24-a.html

but it seems to be dead now - read from the end back, if you still care. (code: CONNECT)

I noticed with the DVD and now the Blu: everytime there's a song, subtitles mysteriously disappear, as if they don't want us to see the lyrics - is that some copyright sort of thing with the artist?

The lyrics thing might be that The Beatles/Apple/Capital/EMI don't own the publishing rights to The Beatles songs anymore.

I did finally pick it up. Fortunately, my concerns were unfounded in this case.