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Old 08-13-12 | 10:49 AM
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Damn. I guess I'll have to wait for a price drop on the gift set to get the third disc and soundtrack CD.
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the number of theaters with 70mm projectors has diminished considerably, but thankfully P.T Anderson is headstrong in having as many of those theaters to present 'The Master' as such, when it opens later in the year. Warner's got a number of theaters to reinstall their 15/70 IMAX projectors for 'The Dark Knight Rises' - with 'Lawrence', 'The Master' and 'Samsara' (which is unfortunately only getting released in 35mm, despite being shot in 70mm) it's great to see 70mm seeing a slight renaissance in the age of digital projection.
Alamo Drafthouse just installed a 70mm projector in their Downtown Austin location (The Ritz) and is already planning a ton of 70mm films. Lawrence isn't on their list yet, but I believe its inevitable.

PT Anderson approves.

http://drafthouse.com/special_events/alamoscope

Austin now has 2 70mm theaters (including the Paramount Theater) and the largest IMAX in Texas.
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Digital data is easily corrupted and is unreliable as a long-term archival storage medium.
I remember reading a few years ago in Rolling Stone that apparently, parts of Toy Story had become corrupted on Pixar's drive. They discovered the damage when they prepared the Blu-ray release. If it can happen to Pixar, it can happen to anyone!
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I remember reading a few years ago in Rolling Stone that apparently, parts of Toy Story had become corrupted on Pixar's drive. They discovered the damage when they prepared the Blu-ray release. If it can happen to Pixar, it can happen to anyone!
Here's a great, in-depth article about it - not just the pixar stuff, but on the debate on film vs digital and the pros/cons of each.
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Digital data is easily corrupted and is unreliable as a long-term archival storage medium.
I can't support a blanket statement like that.
Old 08-14-12 | 10:34 AM
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I can't support a blanket statement like that.
This is something that greatly concerns all of the major studios. All of them continue to preserve archival copies of their movies on film. Even digitally photographed movies are output onto film for the preservation assets. Though they also prepare digital copies, no one trusts the digital versions for long-term storage.
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Yeah, as that article I posted points out, digital storage is really unpredictable; it corrupt data within weeks, or years - you can never tell. Or it might just corrupt a tiny part of your data, which you may not notice until it's too late. You also have to keep a hard-drive running just so it'll have a less likely chance of crashing or of not working at all. Basically, long-term digital storage is a total crap-shoot and extremely unreliable.
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the theatrical rerelease of Lawrence is set for Thursday October 4th with a 2pm and 7pm screening

(theaters yet to be announced)
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the theatrical rerelease of Lawrence is set for Thursday October 4th with a 2pm and 7pm screening

(theaters yet to be announced)
Source?
Old 08-15-12 | 03:43 PM
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Source?
Minus the exact show times, eight billion sites quoting the press release from July.
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Yeah, it was the source for the show times I wanted. I'm quite well aware of the July release.
Old 08-15-12 | 05:00 PM
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of the DC area AMC screens that are showing this they are:

Georgetown
Mazza (hooray!)
Tysons
Hoffman

as to why AMC completely ignores the Uptown is simply beyond me.
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Originally Posted by MinLShaw
Yeah, it was the source for the show times I wanted. I'm quite well aware of the July release.
Fandango is already selling tickets for 1:00 p.m. and 7:00 p.m. shows on Oct. 4 at a couple of theaters in Nashville, TN.

Edited to add: I just bought my ticket for the matinee.
Old 08-15-12 | 11:24 PM
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^ I don't see the Mazza Galleria screenings up yet on Fandango, but once I do, I'm snagging a tix ASAP!
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The American Cinematheque in Los Angeles runs a 70mm print of Lawrence several times a year. It's a shame most people will never get to see it that way.
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The American Cinematheque in Los Angeles runs a 70mm print of Lawrence several times a year. It's a shame most people will never get to see it that way.
Decided 10 years ago that my first viewing of Lawrence would be in 70mm someday..and that finally happened a couple years ago after moving to L.A. at the Egyptian. Unforgettable. Can't wait to see it again.
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They run it at the Aero as well.
Old 08-18-12 | 06:55 PM
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and the AFI Silver too.
Old 08-22-12 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by slop101
Here's a great, in-depth article about it - not just the pixar stuff, but on the debate on film vs digital and the pros/cons of each.
I found a few more articles about the Toy Story 2 data loss:
http://nofilmschool.com/2012/05/back...e-toy-story-2/

http://thenextweb.com/media/2012/05/...-its-own-good/
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I just got around to reading the Toy Story 2 articles, and frankly, that has nothing to do with data archiving. Basically, they granted full permissions on the full working data set to everyone (mistake #1), and someone did an rm -rf on it (mistake #2). Then, they also had backups that weren't properly configured (mistake #3), backup logs that weren't being monitored (mistake #4), and backups that weren't verified or tested to make sure they restored all the data properly (mistake #5). Again though, all of this (even the backups) are part of an active working data set. That is very different from long term data archival, which is what would be relevant to the discussion about digital film preservation.
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I just got around to reading the Toy Story 2 articles, and frankly, that has nothing to do with data archiving...
True. The story about Toy Story losing 20% to corruption would be applicable, but I can't find any real source for that story.

This story talks about converting the films for 3D, which required them to convert the original animation files into a form usable on their current computers, but nowhere is it mentioned that data was lost:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/04/mo...murp.html?_r=1
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Ah, OK, I see. I didn't read any stuff about corruption when they went back for the 3D conversions. That does sound like it would be more applicable.

Data archiving has come a long way since 1998, and with new technologies like checksummed, self-healing file systems like ZFS and ReFS, it's going to just get better for long term data storage.
Old 09-04-12 | 08:16 PM
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I've been hearing that the Oct. 4 Fathom Event screenings are actual DCP not the traditional satellite feed that Fathom are notorious for (i.e, crappy image). Depending on the theater it will be either 2K or 4K.
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I've been hearing that the Oct. 4 Fathom Event screenings are actual DCP not the traditional satellite feed that Fathom are notorious for (i.e, crappy image). Depending on the theater it will be either 2K or 4K.
Giles, I contacted Fathom today through their website to ask about the presentation. I bought a ticket for the matinee at the Regal Opry Mills in Nashville. I'm pretty sure they have at least one 4K projector. I mentioned this in my inquiry to Fathom. This is the response I received:

"It depends on what the theatre is equipped with, but if you are thinking the theatre has a Sony 4K projector, then we will show Lawrence of Arabia in 4K resolution at Regal Opry Mills. However, because the resolution we use greatly depends on what the theatre is equipped with, I cannot say that for sure. We always will show our events in the best possible resolution, so if they do in fact have the 4K projector, that is what the event will be shown in.

Thank you for your email, and enjoy the show!
Fathom Events"
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Amazon now has a single disc version for pre-order:

Lawrence of Arabia single disc



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