Thanks for the reply MTRodaba2468. Can someone share the cart trick that people were using to determine how many copies were left? When I look at my cart or checked out I didn’t see anything that indicated how many were left yet there were people giving a countdown on FB as Christine sold out.

To Sony's part, it's guaranteed revenue, there aren't the accounting headaches that go with other licensing models, and they barely have to lift a finger. Would they move more units if Sony were doing the heavy lifting? Probably, but they'd have to share the revenue with distributors, retailers...the dollars per unit would be tinier...there's more overhead on their part...it's really hard to get titles like this on store shelves...I just mean "they'd move more copies!" doesn't necessarily mean they'd make more money.

There's also a timetable attached, so in a couple of years, Sony could put together their own release or license it back out to someone else.

The general idea isn't that exotic. I remember ages ago when HDNet Movies was crowing about signing a deal with Warner, and although there were some big titles in there like Superman, a lot of it was no-name dreck like Hero at Large. I think it's the same idea here: a few "sexy" marquee titles to help prop up a slate of less marketable ones, plus they give Twilight Time the brand-awareness to more effectively move the more obscure films they've licensed.

When you factor in the titles that Sony's licensed to TT that would never recoup enough to make it worth their while -- hell, wouldn't otherwise get any sort of release at all, more than likely -- they're coming out ahead.

It's basically a two-man operation, last I heard, and I think their soundtrack releases are where they make most of their money anyway. They're doing very well.

I'm not the biggest fan of their business model either, but I get why Sony, Fox, and Twilight Time are going for it.

No that is the sold price. For some reason the app show auctions that sold that do not show up on .com until later. Notice it says "sold for" and the totals are in green, signifying sold items. Active auctions show up as blue, completed but unsold auctions as blue. Sold is in green.

I searched for Chtistine, Blu-ray, then to show only sold items listed from highest to lowest.

Ha! I totally agreed. No way is this title worth $30+ of my frickin' hard earned money. It should be 7.99 Bestbuy bargin bin fodder material at Best. Just My 3 cents, of course.

Exactly. And at a reasonable price point, up to around $14.99 it would sell a lot of copies and make more money. Some bright B-school grad messed up.

Who owns the UK rights? Canada?

Ebay stopped showing completed listings for auctions that ended around 20-24 hours prior for some reason, so what you see for completed listings online is not up to date. Just shows how bad eBay is now compared to the past.

Thanks for the info. I've been wondering why the app showed completed auctions before they showed up on the .com site. I knew I wasn't just crazy. So yeah, these are selling for over $100 already.

I would imagine it's more Twilight's gamble and money than Sony. Most titles haven't sold out so that's Twilight's money tied up in stock sitting on shelves. To press more than 3,000 is too much of a risk. If they press more of the titles they could risk losing the interest that the low press runs are bringing to the horror titles and get stuck with extra stock.

I would imagine 90k is well worth the time for most small businesses.

Believe me, I'd rather not have paid the $35 for it, but since JC is my in my top 3 favorite directors of all time AND all of the special features have been ported over, it was a no brainer for me. Importing it would have been my second option, but it would have been a gamble to see which territory puts it out and whether or not they have special features.

Here are the latest ones that have sold since I posted the images from the iPhone app earlier today. Remember, the app shows the most recently sold items, not the website. For some reason there is a 24-48 hour delay on completed sold items showing up on the website when you search for them, which is why you won't find these unless you use the app. If you use the website you will only see the ones that were up before it even went on sale, and at the time it was around $65 or so.

I'm just posting this in case you have no way to use the eBay app, and you are wondering what the absolute latest is in terms of how they are selling on there...

Get ready for $150+ Ebay prices for CHRISTINE, a title that Sony should have released themselves for $14.95. Damn scalpers. In future, on a highly anticipated title, TT should decrease the limit to 'one' per address. Still, many scalpers will defeat even that system, but it makes it harder.

We still don't even have any idea how good the PQ and transfer will be. Probably it will suffice, but we still just don't know.

I agree! I was going to avoid this release if it were bare bones, since no film is worth paying $30+ for with no extras. This is why I've skipped all Olive releases of films I'd want so far. Eventually I may buy some when I find them in the $15 and under range, but that's tough so far.

But John Carpenter is an awesome director in his prime, and this film is really good despite what some haters say.

In regards to other regions releasing various films. Other than extra features, the issue of the transfer is still important, since plenty of other region releases have lousy transfers, while some look good, but it's always a gamble. Such as how the U.K Escape from New York blu-ray looks like crap, while the MGM U.S. release had a great film like transfer that looks normal.


And I'd like to say 'fuck you' to the scalpers. I don't have any respect for people who hog releases they don't care about and only want to gouge fans for insane amounts of money. So fuck you, you jerks.

TT would be smart to limit all orders to 1 copy per person/address like the other person stated. Sure the scalper slimebags will still try to ruin it for us. But as long as it makes it tougher for them, the better.

People should ignore the scalpers until their prices get well below $30...I will.

The prices for this wont drop to under $30 until it is mass produced elsewhere years from now, if even then.

Start ignoring and don't stop... you have a long wait ahead of you.

If it really is a two-man operation, that makes a little more sense. I still think it is a small, short term money grab but if the major studio doesn't see the money in releasing a title, then so be it. Their short-sighted decision. Hell, the original studio would make more money just by doing what TT is doing, just on a larger scale on their own website.

I love Screen Archives and what they do with soundtracks. I am never happy with their prices but I am always happy with the quality of the finished product on their rare CD soundtracks they deliver which is what really matters.

Regarding their finished products on BDs....that is my real question. Do they make new transfers, remaster the sound, make new extras, etc? Or is it a glorified upscaled DVD? Since they don't have a ton of money at their disposal, is the quality there on their BD releases? I haven't bought any or read any reviews so I don't really know. Their only release I considered buying was Fright Night but it still was just a $10 or less BD to me. The DVD will do me fine until it, if ever, gets a wider and cheaper release.

The transfers generally look terrific, but those are supplied by the licensors. Twilight Time is responsible for liner notes, menu design, compression, etc., but the "heavy lifting" is all handled by Fox/Sony beforehand.

Twilight Time should put out the Hobbit Extended Versions and limit them to 3000 copies and watch the world implode.

Nobody cares about those

We have a new sold high at $125 earlier today.

I bet if all but one of them were removed from eBay that you could get buyers at the $200 and $300 Fright Night prices, if not more.

They are a cruel bunch over there at TT. I asked them to put Beastmaster 2 on BR the last 2 times I ordered. And they put out the soundtrack for it just to tease me.

Well Warner Brothers is essentially doing just that with their DVD/BD "on demand" releases.

That wouldn't work since if you're living in a house/apartment with roommates, now only one of them would be allowed to buy the movie.

I passed on Christine because I'm not interested in buying a bunch to resell and I'd rather not buy it for myself and then find out the transfer is fucked up like NOTLD was.

I'd like to buy The Fury but $30 plus shipping is an insane price for it. The same can be said about the other titles too. They're just way too overpriced for me, compared with other movies. If you're going to do Criterion prices, at least match the quality.

Well, THE FURY and THE BLOB will get my pre-order, even at $35 because those really are two films that are must-owns for me on Blu.

Sad to say, but I think CHRISTINE will be a very-highly torrent'ed release. Giving $100+ to greedy scalpers, to me seems the greater of two evils.

From TT Facebook

UPCOMING DATES FOR YOUR DIARIES:

Friday, March 1st - THE SONG OF BERNADETTE goes up for pre-order at 4 pm EST.
I really like this movie.
I own the
Classic Quad Set (Francis of Assisi / The Gospel Road / A Man Called Peter / The Song of Bernadette) set.
I'm on a movie budget now,and don't plan on upgrading the movie to blu-ray.
In truth,I'm happy enough with the DVD releases of most older movies.


Friday, March 8th - now that SAE have had a chance to process all the orders for CHRISTINE, as normally happens there are cancellations -- this means a limited quantity of CHRISTINE will be available again for sale. These will retail at the usual $29.95 and will be limited to one copy per customer.
Also, we are very pleased to announce that actor / director Keith Gordon will be signing a limited quantity of promotional copies. The autographed copies will be given away FREE to any customer who purchases $100 dollars worth or more, of TT product. ($100 dollars equals one free copy, $200 dollars equals 2 free copies and so on.)
Both the signed and unsigned regular retail copies will go up at 4 pm EST. (Set your alarm clocks!)

Friday, March 15th - we are very proud to announce MAJOR
DUNDEE (our first 2-disc set) will be available for pre-order at 4 pm EST. (Disc 2 will present on Blu-ray the original theatrical cut, never before released on a digital format. It was last issued on laserdisc in the mid-nineties.)

Please feel free to share this info with all your friends -- we don't want anyone to say they didn't know about it!

CHRISTINE *2 and the Fury was my 1st order ever from SAE.