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re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
Amazon.com has stopped selling Hitchcock's Dial M for Murder BD. It can't be ordered as of now, and it doesn't say "Item Under Review" or "Ships in XX days." It says, "Sign up to be notified when this item becomes available."
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re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
maybe they'll fix it
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re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
Originally Posted by riotinmyskull
(Post 11427595)
maybe they'll fix it
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re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
Originally Posted by Quake1028
(Post 11428367)
Fix what?
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re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
Originally Posted by riotinmyskull
(Post 11428377)
the extensive halo-ing
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re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
(Post 11413927)
I dunno. When someone says "haloing", I think of edge enhancement. Whatever that effect is here, it's clearly optical in nature.
Many of those screenshots are disappointing, but the best ones still look pretty spectacular. I'd be in no matter what -- a cheap date for all things Hitchcock or Grace Kelly's name on the bill -- and I remain cautiously optimistic. It's sad to see all of the internet bitching about Dial M. Yeah, the rear projection isn't the best ever and the optical transitions are rough. Filming using the ginormous clunky 3D cameras introduced it's own set of problems. But that's the movie, that's how it's been since Hitchock's team made it. You'd think people would know by now that not every "old movie" looks like Ben Hur. Dial M For Murder is a great bluray and better quality than any 35mm print you will ever get to see. I'm glad to have it. |
re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
Originally Posted by Strevlac
(Post 11429336)
It looks they way it has always looked. The "haloing" is definitely photochemical and is nothing I haven't seen before in old films that have extensive optical work. You want a comparison look at John Wayne's Hondo, also released on bluray albeit only in 2D (which is a real missed opportunity). They look pretty much the same, which is wildly all over the place.
It's sad to see all of the internet bitching about Dial M. Yeah, the rear projection isn't the best ever and the optical transitions are rough. Filming using the ginormous clunky 3D cameras introduced it's own set of problems. But that's the movie, that's how it's been since Hitchock's team made it. You'd think people would know by now that not every "old movie" looks like Ben Hur. Dial M For Murder is a great bluray and better quality than any 35mm print you will ever get to see. I'm glad to have it. |
re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
Sorry for the double post, but I needed to draw a parallel.
The following link is the DVDTalk review of CC's Children Of Paradise, which gives VQ 5 stars and AQ 4.5 stars. http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/56756...n-of-paradise/ The guy who reviewed the Hitchcock set has been describing the COP blu as "botched" for a few weeks now. Make what you will of that. |
re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
Originally Posted by LPMA
(Post 11432319)
Sorry for the double post, but I needed to draw a parallel.
The following link is the DVDTalk review of CC's Children Of Paradise, which gives VQ 5 stars and AQ 4.5 stars. http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/56756...n-of-paradise/ The guy who reviewed the Hitchcock set has been describing the COP blu as "botched" for a few weeks now. Make what you will of that. |
re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
Originally Posted by Strevlac
(Post 11432521)
Criterion's bluray of Children of Paradise is awful. It's been severely noise reduced. They should be ashamed of releasing it. I dunno what credentials that DVDTalk reviewer has, but I'm guessing nil.
noise reduced? the whole film looks like it was tealed with brown mud, the black levels are crushed beyond belief. |
re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
Originally Posted by Giles
(Post 11432541)
noise reduced? the whole film looks like it was tealed with brown mud, the black levels are crushed beyond belief.
Are we talking about the same Children of Paradise? |
re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
Originally Posted by Strevlac
(Post 11432563)
-confused-
Are we talking about the same Children of Paradise? take a look at something like 'In Which We Serve' that 4K restoration displays deep dark black levels, unless I'm wrong, Children's image looked tinged - maybe that's intentional, but I'm not a fan of the PQ of the bluray. |
re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
Originally Posted by Giles
(Post 11432574)
take a look at something like 'In Which We Serve' that 4K restoration is black and white, unless I'm wrong, Children's image looked tinged - maybe that's intentional, but I'm not a fan of the PQ of the bluray.
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re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
oops, did a quick re-edit of my post
from take a look at something like 'In Which We Serve' that 4K restoration is black and white to take a look at something like 'In Which We Serve' that 4K restoration "displays deep dark black levels" in regards to the Lean/Coward Box Set, even the technicolor 'This Happy Breed' is quite a transfer, the one shot where the camera pulls through the kitchen towards the window in an establishing shot - the clarity and sharpness is so tactile, you almost want to reach into your TV/monitor and touch objects (a faux 3D visual perception in 2D) - this is also evident in the stunning 4K restoration of 'The Leopard' (now that's a transfer that makes the Criterion edition look pale in comparison). |
re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
I wanna echo the praise for Dial M For Murder. It's as great as the movie can ever look.
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re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
The problems with Children of Paradise stem back to the alleged "4k restoration" performed on the film by its European owners at Pathe. Criterion was limited in the source material it could use for the Blu-ray by the results of that restoration.
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re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
Originally Posted by Josh Z
(Post 11433315)
The problems with Children of Paradise stem back to the alleged "4k restoration" performed on the film by its European owners at Pathe. Criterion was limited in the source material it could use for the Blu-ray by the results of that restoration.
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re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
Originally Posted by Rizor
(Post 11432712)
I wanna echo the praise for Dial M For Murder. It's as great as the movie can ever look.
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re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
Originally Posted by Giles
(Post 11433321)
so I'm assuming the French import would look the same, as would the DCP that Rialto is distributing to theaters for revival screenings.
For what it's worth, here's an article about the restoration that tries to put a positive spin on it. http://magazine.creativecow.net/arti...restored-to-4k Quemy also notes that another division of Éclair Laboratories did the sound restoration, which was also from an original nitrate sound positive. The last thing they did was take a careful look at grain. "We had certain shots coming from different film elements and the grain on those shots was very, very poor," says Lurin. "To a point, it was really distracting to the audience. You'd look at an image with fine grain and then you'd switch to the next shot from a dupe positive with lots of grain." Post-restoration, the team used Cinnafilm Dark Energy to manage the grain and texture." |
re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
Beaver's been putting up "reviews" and screen caps of the new AH set. Looks good to me so far!
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re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
The Beav on Marnie, one of the more problematic discs from the initial UK reviews. Maybe I'm showing how much of an amateur I am, but it looks pretty solid; I've seen far worse transfers. Gary chalks up any issues to a problem with the source print, but who knows.
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re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
Any chance of a discounted price somewhere that Amazon will have to price match? I still haven't made up my mind yet. The limited UK set does look pretty, but if it comes with the million age restriction tags on each discs like the Monsters set, it'll ruin the look a bit...
Edit: I've been looking around at the Beaver reviews and I'm less inclined to worry about this set now. |
re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
Originally Posted by LPMA
(Post 11434662)
Any chance of a discounted price somewhere that Amazon will have to price match? I still haven't made up my mind yet. The limited UK set does look pretty, but if it comes with the million age restriction tags on each discs like the Monsters set, it'll ruin the look a bit...
Edit: I've been looking around at the Beaver reviews and I'm less inclined to worry about this set now. |
re: The Official Alfred Hitchcock on Blu-ray & UHD Thread
Originally Posted by musick
(Post 11434902)
Do you stare at the printing on the discs while they are playing in your player?!
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