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Old 09-13-10 | 08:57 AM
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Studios choking off 3D Blu-ray demand?

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EXCLUSIVE: There's an accusation that Hollywood studios are holding back their hottest 3D Blu-ray releases, including Avatar 3D and Toy Story 3, until they see how much demand there is for the new format. This is despite manufacturers needing to sell 3D BD players in the run-up before Christmas. London based consultancy Screen Digest says studios including Fox, Paramount, Universal, and Warner Bros are only making a handful of 3D Blu-Ray titles available on the shelves before December –- and risking choking off demand for what Blu-ray’s long-awaited killer app. Screen Digest predicts that, by 2014, 75% of U.S. homes that have 3D-enabled TV sets will be able to show 3D BDs. And that 28% of U.S. homes will have 3D TVs within 4 years. Right now, only 25 3D BD discs will go on sale before Christmas, but only 6 of these will not be bundled along with 3D hardware. This means hardly any choice on the shelves. Disney’s Alice In Wonderland and Bolt will be exclusively bundled with Sony 3D hardware until early December. DreamWorks Animations’ Monsters vs Aliens, How To Train Your Dragon, and Shrek 4 will only be available if you buy Samsung’s 3D hardware. Anybody buying Panasonic 3D TVs gets Fox’s Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs and/or Universal’s Coraline. But there are no plans as yet to release Disney’s Up or Warner’s Clash of the Titans on 3D BD in the U.S. or UK. Analyst Helen Davis Jayalath, head of video at Screen Digest, tells me: “Early take-up of 3D Blu-ray would provide a much needed boost to the format, sales of which have fallen short of projections made pre-recession. Perhaps, not surprisingly, studios are hesitant to release their ‘crown jewel’ titles on 3D BD.” Her colleague Richard Baxter, co-author of report Studio Caution May Stymie 3D, Blu-Ray’s Potential Killer App, adds: “Our research shows that all the studios support 3D BD but many of them are unwilling to release their strongest 3D titles before the installed base of home 3D hardware is large enough to generate serious returns.”

But one studio I spoke to says there are many more 3D BD releases ready to be announced -- but it just couldn’t tell Screen Digest about them at the time. Yet if Hollywood is stocking Christmasholiday store shelves with more 3D product than Screen Digest thinks, it'd better hurry. Disney tells me its 4-disc version of Christmas Carol releasing before Christmas includes the 3D version, for example, and the studio claims it has strongly supported BD from the inception and continues to back industry initiatives to advance the platform.
Over at the Official Blu-ray forum, one of the "Insiders" is discussing how bundling is a good thing

As it stands, all that's available is kid films, and I can't see anyone dropping $2-3$ on Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs or Monster House 3D.
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Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs is genuinely great, and I'd replace my BD for a 3D disc in a heartbeat. I haven't seen Monster House, but I seem to remember hearing good things about that too. I'd buy Coraline, Despicable Me, Up, Toy Story 3, and How to Train Your Dragon too.

A handful of animated titles aren't enough for me, though. My killer app would be 3D releases from years past: Dial M for Murder, Friday the 13th III, House of Wax, It Came from Outer Space, Creature from the Black Lagoon, A*P*E...yes, a crappy East Asian knockoff of King Kong interests me far, far, far more than pretty much anything else that's going to show up on BD-3D anytime soon.

It's a chicken/egg problem, I guess. Studios refuse to release movies until there's a user base. Aside from just picking up a shiny new toy, there's no drive whatsoever for anyone to buy into BD-3D right now since the content is so inaccessible.
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I couldn't stand Cloudy.The other titles you listed (animated) I'd get IF I was 3D Capable.
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It's a chicken/egg problem, I guess. Studios refuse to release movies until there's a user base. Aside from just picking up a shiny new toy, there's no drive whatsoever for anyone to buy into BD-3D right now since the content is so inaccessible.
True enough. One of those "if you build it they will come", however no one's going to show up hoping the thing will ever happen.
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3D TV is a waste of time and money. It's going to go the way of HD-DVD and the 8 track. It's just pointless. Buy an all new player just to play the 3 or 4 3D discs that are available ? I don't think so. Sure, they can also play your old discs, but it's a complete waste of money to get a new player just to be able to play less than a handfull of titles.
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3D TV is a waste of time and money. It's going to go the way of HD-DVD and the 8 track. It's just pointless. Buy an all new player just to play the 3 or 4 3D discs that are available ? I don't think so. Sure, they can also play your old discs, but it's a complete waste of money to get a new player just to be able to play less than a handfull of titles.
PS3 FTW!

But yeah, I'm not looking to buy a 3D HDTV any time soon...
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Yeah, we got an update on PS3 right? I'll probably never get an 3D HDTV anytime soon either. Probably never cuz I don't see the need to have it in my home honestly.

Being one without great knowledge on those new TVs..so...on these 3D TVs...I no longer need glasses to wear at home right? It just...projects 3D imagery via TV independently...correcto?
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Being one without great knowledge on those new TVs..so...on these 3D TVs...I no longer need glasses to wear at home right?
Glasses-free displays are in the work, but currently, everything requires very expensive active shutter glasses.
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Yeah, we got an update on PS3 right? I'll probably never get an 3D HDTV anytime soon either. Probably never cuz I don't see the need to have it in my home honestly.

Being one without great knowledge on those new TVs..so...on these 3D TVs...I no longer need glasses to wear at home right? It just...projects 3D imagery via TV independently...correcto?
PS3 owns get the cheapest thing "free". Still need glasses, TV and Receiver.
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Alright. Until glasses free 3D comes to home. I don't give a shit about it. Wearing it at home is stupid.
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The quicker this shit dies, the better. Another big strike against them is leaving off all the extras, yet charging a higher price for the 3D version.
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I heavily doubt 3D will add anything AMAZING to films in general. I don't need to see Day-Lewis yelling at me in 3D...though...Christina Hendricks in 3D might win me over. 3D Mad Men BD please...and you have a winner for me.
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Now porn in 3D would be interesting, regular movies do nothing for me. It gets pretty annoying after a while. The glasses didn't bother me just the content.
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At a theater? Fine, I'll wear the glasses and be groovy w/ it. At home? Fuck no.
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Add me to the camp that hopes this 3D crap dies a fast death.
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I also am glad the 3D thing is turning into an obvious clusterfuck.

That said, the fastest way to kill the at-home format is this "bundling". If I ever decided to buy a 3D TV and the guy is explaining to me that I can only see Avatar 3D on a Sony TV and could only see Toy Story 3 if I buy a Samsung TV... guess what? I won't buy ANY 3D TV.
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Glasses-free displays are in the work, but currently, everything requires very expensive active shutter glasses.
I don't understand how that can even be possible. You can't have stuff coming off the screen unless it's physically coming off the screen. I'm not a scientist but I don't get how that could happen.

Also, 3D TVs are incredibly stupid. I work for an electronics store and have twice rang up people buying the 3D TVs and BD players spending well over $3000 and just can't fathom why they are wasting their money. I honestly do not see this technology succeeding at all. No one wants to watch TV with big fucking glasses on their face. People keep telling me, "sports in 3D will be awesome", okay, who wants to watch a 4 hour football game with those glasses on their faces? No one that's who. 3D is fun in small doses. I just saw Piranha not too long ago and the 3D was pretty cool, but I realized about halfway into the movie that the 3D effect wears off. You become desensitized to the effect. I took my glasses off for a minute, let my eyes adjust to normal vision and then put them back on to get the full effect again.

People are stupid, they dump their money for anything that shines and makes a whirring noise.
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The entertainment/electronics industry always amaze me at the creative ways they come up with to shoot themselves in the foot.

Let's develop this new technology that nobody really wants, then restrict the movies they can buy on it! We'll hold back our tentpole titles and make the limited cartoons that are available only bundled with different hardware. People will surely drop 3k in the hopes that we might someday release software for this stuff, right?

I guess at least this time we should be grateful that we don't have the usual two identical but incompatible formats fighting it out.
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Well, what is 3D Blu-ray? It's a niche of a niche.
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You can't have stuff coming off the screen unless it's physically coming off the screen.
Sure you can: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenticular_lens

This is what Nintendo's 3DS is based on, and several manufacturers have displays based on lenticular lenses in the works. There are definitely trade-offs, of course, the big one being a limited 'sweet spot'.

I've read about displays in the work that try to track your eye movements and rejigger things to accommodate, but...yeah. Guessing that's a ways off.
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Sure you can: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenticular_lens

This is what Nintendo's 3DS is based on, and several manufacturers have displays based on lenticular lenses in the works. There are definitely trade-offs, of course, the big one being a limited 'sweet spot'.

I've read about displays in the work that try to track your eye movements and rejigger things to accommodate, but...yeah. Guessing that's a ways off.
See and that makes sense in theory - when only ONE PERSON is watching the display. Add more people and not everyone is going to see the images correctly. I can see the 3DS working since only one person is viewing it (though my reservation stems from it requiring you to keep it at an exact distance or "refocus") but do not see it working in a home theater environment where more than one person would be watching.
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I don't disagree. Just sayin'.

Personally, being a shut-in and everything, a 3D-for-me-only set is fine. At the same time, I wear glasses whenever I'm awake anyway, so the concept of wearing larger, bulkier glasses a small portion of the time isn't a dealbreaker.
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I don't disagree. Just sayin'.

Personally, being a shut-in and everything, a 3D-for-me-only set is fine. At the same time, I wear glasses whenever I'm awake anyway, so the concept of wearing larger, bulkier glasses a small portion of the time isn't a dealbreaker.
Are the 3D glasses going to fit over your prescription glasses? I wear contacts now, but I remember being a kid with glasses and trying to put my sunglasses over them...yikes.
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It's getting really old listening to the same bitching over and over. If you don't want to watch in 3-D, don't. But I guarantee you you will have a 3-D capable display eventually, even if you never, ever use the feature.

It's not like the glasses are big and heavy anyway, and no one expects the public will wear them for hours on end. That would interfere with their texting.

Just because YOU don't care about having access to 3-D content, it doesn't mean anyone who buys into it is a sheep or is stupid. I am sure everyone can look at someone else and find something that they are spending their money on seems silly to them. As long as it isn't your money, just pass on what doesn't interest you. Time to grow up, people.


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