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Old 09-15-10 | 10:34 AM
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Are the 3D glasses going to fit over your prescription glasses? I wear contacts now, but I remember being a kid with glasses and trying to put my sunglasses over them...yikes.
I think they're going to have (or already have) prescription 3D glasses.
Old 09-15-10 | 10:43 AM
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I think they're going to have (or already have) prescription 3D glasses.
Wow, I was 99% sure you were joking, but that 1% made me Google it...

http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-ent...ion-3d-glasses
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Originally Posted by Steve Phillips
It's getting really old listening to the same bitching over and over. If you don't want to watch in 3-D, don't. But I guarantee you you will have a 3-D capable display eventually, even if you never, ever use the feature.

It's not like the glasses are big and heavy anyway, and no one expects the public will wear them for hours on end. That would interfere with their texting.

Just because YOU don't care about having access to 3-D content, it doesn't mean anyone who buys into it is a sheep or is stupid. I am sure everyone can look at someone else and find something that they are spending their money on seems silly to them. As long as it isn't your money, just pass on what doesn't interest you. Time to grow up, people.
Sounds like someone just bought a 3D TV...
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What are you kidding? Not while I have to wear glasses!
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Originally Posted by JimRochester
Quadrophonic, home movies on 8mm tape, 1080 Digital Video Tape, 3D
Don't forget Betamax and RCA CED video discs.
Old 09-15-10 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rfduncan
See and that makes sense in theory - when only ONE PERSON is watching the display.
What about IPS technology being incorporated into the television set, meaning you have to be at a specific viewing angle to see the 3D?

When 3D televisions ditch the glasses, I'll be in. Until then, no.
Old 09-15-10 | 07:45 PM
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I also am glad the 3D thing is turning into an obvious clusterfuck.

That said, the fastest way to kill the at-home format is this "bundling". If I ever decided to buy a 3D TV and the guy is explaining to me that I can only see Avatar 3D on a Sony TV and could only see Toy Story 3 if I buy a Samsung TV... guess what? I won't buy ANY 3D TV.
Oh come now. The exclusive releases will be for a limited time, after which they will be available through stores. And they will probably be available on e-bay and places like that sooner, for those willing to pay (and if one is spending the bucks for a 3D setup, a bit more for a favorite movie wouldn't be that big a deal).

Yes, I agree that home 3D will remain a tiny niche for the foreseeable future. But that doesn't mean that it is the sword-of-doom for the BD format or the rest of us. If we don't want to watch movies in 3D at home, we don't have to. If the 3D format dies, how many really care? I fail to see why this is such a big deal for so many here.
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Re: Studios choking off 3D Blu-ray demand?

Originally Posted by Dick
Don't forget Betamax and RCA CED video discs.
I didn't include things like Betamax or 8-tracks because even though they eventually became obsolete they were a viable format for a while. I doubt 3D will ever get to an official niche.
Old 09-15-10 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JimRochester
I didn't include things like Betamax or 8-tracks because even though they eventually became obsolete they were a viable format for a while. I doubt 3D will ever get to an official niche.
I was at best buy checking their 3D displays and it brought me back to the 90s looking at those pics of colored patterns and trying to see the hidden 3D image.

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Originally Posted by lizard
Oh come now. If the 3D format dies, how many really care? I fail to see why this is such a big deal for so many here.
I wouldn't consider buying a 3D set until the second-gen displays are out anyway, and maybe the exclusivity issue will have resolved itself by then. Still, if I bought a 3D-capable set, I'd want 3D stuff to watch. There's only a tiny trickle of titles, and thanks to these exclusivty deals, all but a couple require buying new hardware or paying $70-$80 a pop on eBay. There are always only going to be so many people dumping their discs on eBay anyway.

It's taking a user base that was destined to be small anyway and strangling it till it's withered and dead out of the gate. I'm not super-enthused about 3D-BD, but I don't want it to fail.
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Blu-ray.com reports that Warner will release six 3-D blu-rays on November 16 to general retail.

THE POLAR EXPRESS
DEEP SEA
UNDER THE SEA
SPACE STATION
CLASH OF THE TITANS (2D to 3D conversion)
CATS AND DOGS: REVENGE OF KITTY GALORE (2D to 3D conversion, with native 3D Road Runner short)

Not the greatest mix, but better than nothing. Where's HOUSE OF WAX? PHANTOM OF THE RUE MORGUE? DIAL M FOR MURDER? Heck, even JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH? Perhaps in 2011 some of the better titles will be released.
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Oh....boy. Some documentaries, 2 crappy kid films and a shitty remake.

I hope we get Troll 2 in 3D soon to round that out.
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Oh, and:
Suggested retail price is $44.95 for each BD.

Hahahaha. Oh man.

And before some people say "some BDs are priced that high", they are priced and sold at a discount because stores will move multiple copies. Only Cats and Dogs and Clash are likely to move about 8-10k copies the first week of release (unless Cats and Dogs will only be sold in a 3D pack like A Christmas Story). The others will rot on shelves.
Old 09-16-10 | 09:32 AM
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You mean there aren't millions of people out there who want to pay $40 bucks for CATS AND DOGS 2? Better call Warner right away and let them know.
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Looks like OPEN SEASON will also be released on Blu-ray 3D on Nov.16th.

At this rate, there will be nearly twenty crappy kids films, shitty remakes and documentaries on the market by the end of the year (and for everyone to complain about).
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I wonder if Clash of the Titans will still be the same piss poor conversion they used for the release in theaters. If so, why on earth would anyone wanna buy that version on 3D Blu-ray???
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CLASH is already available in Germany; all reports are that it seems to look a bit better at home, but that ain't high praise as they say.
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Got to watch my first 3DBD last night (Monster House) and I must say, it was pretty goddamn cool. Infinitely better than any 3D experience I've had in a theater.
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Re: Studios choking off 3D Blu-ray demand?

Looks like the PS3 is finally getting the 3D BD update next week with firmware 3.50:

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...tember_21/5442

I wonder if this will help with 3D TV sales any, since now there will be millions of 3D BD players in homes overnight after the update....it probably won't have a big effect, but it might make some of those people who were on the fence lean more towards a purchase if they already own a PS3....
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Originally Posted by Spottedfeather
3D TV is a waste of time and money. It's going to go the way of HD-DVD and the 8 track. It's just pointless. Buy an all new player just to play the 3 or 4 3D discs that are available ? I don't think so. Sure, they can also play your old discs, but it's a complete waste of money to get a new player just to be able to play less than a handfull of titles.
I agree and it is not even three dimensional until I can walk behind the image.

I have seen demos in stores, looks terrible and fake to my eyes.

As far as dead formats, I have SACD, DVD-Audio and used to own a number of DBX vinyl albums.

This idea needs to end now.
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Re: Studios choking off 3D Blu-ray demand?

Originally Posted by WMAangel
Looks like the PS3 is finally getting the 3D BD update next week with firmware 3.50:

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...tember_21/5442

I wonder if this will help with 3D TV sales any, since now there will be millions of 3D BD players in homes overnight after the update....it probably won't have a big effect, but it might make some of those people who were on the fence lean more towards a purchase if they already own a PS3....
Still need glasses, 3DTV and possibly a new receiver. 15 year olds can't afford that

Isn't it going to be 720p 3D anyway? And can't handle Blu-ray java?
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Isn't it going to be 720p 3D anyway?
That's just games. It can do movies in 1080p.
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I don' think 3d is the best thing since sliced bread but I don't have a problem with it either. If you don't like it, don't buy it; simple.

There are people for whom this technology makes sense.

For instance, I have been with BD since day one but I still don't have an HDTV. I've been using a 720p projector all this time. When I finally get a TV in a year or two, why not get a 3D one that will probably only cost a couple hundred bucks more by that point? I use a PS3 so no expense there and my audio system is new enough that I wouldn't need to upgrade that, either.

From a studio perspective, it also makes sense. Sure it might get choked off and die but what's to lose? They might sell a few thousand extra TVs and they probably make nearly twice as much off disc sales (not counting cost of conversion, if applicable).

The argument that they're watering down the BD market and confusing late-adapters isn't justified by any stats that I've seen. Most people who buy BD are still in the tech-saavy film-buff category. People who know what's up and can tell a clear case with one logo from a blue case with a different one. Casual film watchers are turning more to digital and 3D may also be a limited-time protection from pirating and/or losing the disc market entirely.

My only demand is that 2D versions continue to be available, especially for films that were made to be seen this way. And at those prices, every 3DBD should also include a 2D version.
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My only demand is that 2D versions continue to be available, especially for films that were made to be seen this way. And at those prices, every 3DBD should also include a 2D version.
They will. Per the "standard", all 3D BD discs have a 2D version on it. Now, they may require a higher price (1 SKU), but they will still be available. We may not get the 'fake' 3D (Coraline for example with the pack-in glasses), but a 2D version will always be available.
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Re: Studios choking off 3D Blu-ray demand?

Originally Posted by Steve Phillips
It's getting really old listening to the same bitching over and over. If you don't want to watch in 3-D, don't. But I guarantee you you will have a 3-D capable display eventually, even if you never, ever use the feature.

It's not like the glasses are big and heavy anyway, and no one expects the public will wear them for hours on end. That would interfere with their texting.

Just because YOU don't care about having access to 3-D content, it doesn't mean anyone who buys into it is a sheep or is stupid. I am sure everyone can look at someone else and find something that they are spending their money on seems silly to them. As long as it isn't your money, just pass on what doesn't interest you. Time to grow up, people.
Yep, same bitching all the time. Couple years back it was the same bullshit about Blu-Ray being able to last past a few years with the limited and crappy catalog/barebones releases. Now it's "I'm too lazy/fed up to wear glasses at home, but looking like a dick in a public theater is ok". lol


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