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^ :lol:

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You are correct and I admit I was beating a dead :horse: Shame on me because I just got on someone else's case for taking every opportunity to dump on a movie they didn't like but was generally considered very good. One problem with these jam-packed sets is that they always seem to leave something out. They include 14 discs of extra features but I guarantee you can find someone not happy with what was included or missing.

For Star Wars. I may still upgrade at some point but realizing I haven't watched the discs I have in eons I don't feel an immediate need. I saw them in the theaters, then I saw them on tape, then I took my son when they were re-released as SE's, then i saw them on LD, and finally DVD. Not as a slam to the extras, but I'm satisfied with the extras in the current set so although $90 for 6 movies is pretty reasonable at $15 per movie, I may hold off and see if I can just grab the films themselves at some point for less.

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Here's what I upgraded to.

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I had this, but I'm pretty sure my ex-brother-in-law stole it before he ran away to Connecticut.

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I still have that set sealed. I stumbled onto it in a ____ (insert popular mall movie store in the 90's. I can't remember the name, somebody help me out. lol) at regular retail ($59) AFTER the SE had already been released.

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I threw this out on Twitter, but I can TOTALLY see Lucas including...the exact same non-anamorphic LD masters, STILL in SD, in the extra features section.You think three Blu-Ray discs' worth of content is hitting YouTube?

And no, nothing sends a message to George Lucas.

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Yea... I honestly don't think anything is ever going to change Lucas's mind at this point. Your only hope is getting them after he dies.

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You twitted before posting here??

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No, I don't think 3 discs worth of extra content will hit youtube, however I think the best of the extra content will get posted. I used to be a big Star Wars fan so there isn't a whole lot I haven't heard about.

Anyway, not about sending a message just a personal thing I guess about choosing to buy only the original trilogy.

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Sadly, I agree with you both. Coincidentally, I was deleting some old e-mail earlier when I stumbled across this from 2006:

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As for the extras, what is left that hasn't been seen? Most of the OT deleted scenes I have saw a few years ago on some website (I can't remember the name), including alot of Luke and Biggs at the beginning of Star Wars.

As for Documentaries, what is left to be said about these movies? The Empire of Dreams Documentary was great in the '04 Disks, but wont these new docs just be a rehash of old stuff? And as for new interviews, I don't care to hear Lucas talk about his revisionist BS about the saga now.

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Anyone else think we'll see the theatrical cuts in here somehow?

My fingers are crossed.

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I am going to hazard a guess of Suncoast Video. Is that the one MC? If not, no clue then :)

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+1 This is something I can see happening and while it will not be exactly what we want, I would at least be satisfied that it is part of the package.

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The problem I have with the 'it would be SO hard and expensive to restore..." excuse is that they've already restored, like, 95% of the original material of the OT!

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But it was hard!

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The original Star Wars movies were my favorite films of my childhood. I still love them, but I have not bought them since VHS. I want these blu-rays, but if George Lucas's stubborn ass cannot provide the original, unaltered films (in high quality masters) which fans have been asking for for years then fuck him and these releases. I have no problem with him changing every thing he wants in the movies as long as he gives us those original versions. If they did this then god bless him and I'll buy them. He probably won't though. Fuck you George Lucas. Fuck you for raping my childhood.

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AND expensive!

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My understanding based way back on the OP info or info around that time was that they went through the whole Lucasfilm vault and found hours of material they thought had been destroyed or lost long ago. The expectation is that these new discs will contain extensive deleted scenes that have never been seen anywhere, because they've been gathering dust in the archives basically since they were shot.

And yes, the "time / money" argument is stupid. Not only could they just restore the 10-20 minutes of footage that got altered or changed, but this is Star Wars. They have all the time in the world, and all the money they could ever need, should they want to do a restoration.

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but it's hard and expensive! What don't you understand, man?

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The original Star Wars is an incredibly important piece of cinematic history. No matter what you think about it, the impact this movie made is still being felt today. It transformed the entire industry. To not restore it because Lucas didn't have the money or the ability to place puppets in the background of several scenes (and use the excuse that it wasn't the director's vision) is inane. People would line up to pay $139.99 a set for the 100% original unmolested blu-ray release of the original trilogy.

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well...I dunno if I'd pay for it at that much...but I would get it at some point..and at a much cheaper price.

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Oh, so the expensiveness of the project is someone else's problem?

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I don't expect the so-called "OOT" to be on this set, and frankly, I hope it's not. We already have the unaltered original trilogy on DVD. It's not perfect, but it's never going to be (if we take Lucas at his word).

I want the special features on the Blu-ray set to focus on what hasn't been put on home video yet. And bear in mind: About 14 of those 30 hours they mentioned could be nothing more than commentaries. Otherwise, that would be an average of 10 hours per disc. Unless it's all in SD, that scenario is unlikely. Of course, some of that could be PiP content, too.

--THX

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Sure they would. People would also pay that price for the set that's been announced. More people would line up to pay $89.99 for it.

Ultimately if the OT purists were a big enough group to put a dent in the Luca$ empire via boycotts (they aren't) and if they had the willpower to stick to their guns and not buy the altered versions (they don't) it would be different but as it stands this is going to be yet another big river of money flowing into Lucas's wallet and as such he's going to continue doing what he wants to do with the property.

In reality the people who refuse to watch anything but the unaltered OT are a small but vocal minority, and given their nature of course they're going to be the ones online beating a dead horse about what they see as a huge injustice. There's online and there's the real world and in the real world they're absolutely dwarfed by people who don't care about the changes/updates, the people who actually prefer them and the people who are all for the inclusion of multiple versions of the film but don't see it as a dealbreaker if it doesn't happen that way.

Right now there's someone out there who absolutely loves the 97 SE's and would fork over an unreasonable wad of cash to see that precise version of the trilogy on Blu-ray as opposed to anything that came before or since. It's not about whether or not there are people out there that want any particular thing, it's about how big a part they are of the overall bigger picture and the absolutely overwhelming majority of people in the market for "Star Wars" on Blu-ray are going to be willing to pay for what's being offered in September.

I almost said "...going to be satisfied with what's being offered in September" but again, there will be plenty of people who have the "I'll buy it but I don't have to be happy about it!" mentality and that means absolutely nothing to Lucas because a sale is a sale.