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Adam Tyner 02-04-10 06:15 AM

Re: Suspiria - January 2010?
 

Originally Posted by Giles (Post 9980269)
so the top shot is from the UK BR and the second one is from the Italian disc? If that's the case it's completely different from what Tovoli supervised.

No. The top shot is from the UK disc and the second one is from the Anchor Bay DVD.

The UK and Italian discs are both minted from the same master. It sounds like during the authoring of the Italian BD, the producers mucked it up even more, and the UK authors tried to back off a bit. The same fundamental problems plague both discs.


Originally Posted by Giles (Post 9980269)
so what, or more specifically wherre did it go wrong for the UK transfer? The brightening looks horrible.

Suspiria superfan Michael Mackenzie's guess is that "the problems had not crept in during the restoration itself but rather during the conversion of the colour gamut from the Digital Cinema Initiative master to consumer HD". This would explain why Tovoli was pleased with the transfer he supervised and approved but not the recent home video releases that he's said are "too hot".

Giles 05-25-10 03:25 PM

Re: Suspiria - January 2010?
 
in other Argento news:

Arrow Video is releasing Tenebrae, Deep Red and Phenomena is August. Amazon.co.uk has the preorders up and unlike Suspiria I assume they won't be region B locked (fingers crossed)

:bdance: :bdance: :bdance:

obscurelabel 05-25-10 04:29 PM

Re: Suspiria - January 2010?
 

Originally Posted by Adam Tyner (Post 9979637)
... it's was even shot on three-strip Technicolor (the same as the most impressive classic catalog films on Blu-ray)...there's no reason why it shouldn't look gorgeous.

This American Cinematographer article, with an inteview of cinematographer Luciano Tovoli, indicates that Suspiria was filmed on single strip Eastman 5254 stock. Prints were processed with Technicolor's dye transfer process, which is sometimes referred to as "three-strip", which may contribute to this widespread confusion. Suspiria was one of the last films with prints processed this way, as Technicolor discontinued the process in 1978 (they revived it in the 1990s before ending it for good in 2002). I believe I remember reading that the 5254 stock was discontinued at the time of filming and the filmmakers had to search for suppliers that still had stock on hand (and perhaps had to film some parts on different stock when it ran out).

A post on HTF suggests that some of the three-strip confusion may come from a misleading scene in an Anchor Bay documentary.

doctorthodt 05-25-10 04:35 PM

Re: Suspiria - January 2010?
 

Originally Posted by Giles (Post 10178458)
I assume they won't be region B locked (fingers crossed)

Why not?

Gizmo 05-25-10 05:52 PM

Re: Suspiria - January 2010?
 

Originally Posted by Giles (Post 10178458)
in other Argento news:

Arrow Video is releasing Tenebrae, Deep Red and Phenomena is August. Amazon.co.uk has the preorders up and unlike Suspiria I assume they won't be region B locked (fingers crossed)

:bdance: :bdance: :bdance:

Depends who has the rights to them here on the States and if they are allowed to be Region Free. Suspiria wasn't even by Arrow so I'm not sure why you brought it up (aside from the Argento connection)...

tylergfoster 05-25-10 08:16 PM

Re: Suspiria - January 2010?
 
Hmmm. If those Blu-Rays aren't region-locked, then I guess I'm holding off on the Anchor Bay Steelbook. I guess I'll hold off for announcements.

Giles 05-25-10 09:50 PM

Re: Suspiria - January 2010?
 

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10178679)
Depends who has the rights to them here on the States and if they are allowed to be Region Free. Suspiria wasn't even by Arrow so I'm not sure why you brought it up (aside from the Argento connection)...

well fine, I'll make a seperate dedicated thread then...

Matthew Chmiel 06-01-10 11:40 PM

Re: Suspiria - January 2010?
 

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10178679)
Depends who has the rights to them here on the States and if they are allowed to be Region Free. Suspiria wasn't even by Arrow so I'm not sure why you brought it up (aside from the Argento connection)...

Tenebre and Phenomena are owned by Anchor Bay / Starz. Deep Red is now owned by Blue Underground.

Interesting to note, Suspiria is now on Netflix streaming. One key note to point out: it's the R-rated version. I found this out by two key things right when I hit play...

1. The 20th Century Fox logo at the beginning.
2. The running time was 93 minutes, not 98.

I'm honestly surprised it was in widescreen too, especially since there has never been a widescreen release of the edited version.

Of course, I skipped to the death scenes and I can('t) believe how chopped up they are. It honestly ruins the film because they took out one of my favorite camera moves of all time (the panning shot going from the girl hanging to the reveal that her friend got killed by the debris from the attack).

Lastdaysofrain 06-02-10 07:17 AM

Re: Suspiria - January 2010?
 
I believe the Fox cut version is the same version that has been running on some of the HD Cable channels, in widescreen HD.

Adam Tyner 06-02-10 08:22 AM

Re: Suspiria - January 2010?
 

Originally Posted by Lastdaysofrain (Post 10189905)
I believe the Fox cut version is the same version that has been running on some of the HD Cable channels, in widescreen HD.

The cut of Suspiria making the rounds on Cinemax-HD was cropped to 1.78:1, though...I seem to remember the credits being letterboxed, but everything else was hacked apart.

Matthew Chmiel 06-02-10 10:17 AM

Re: Suspiria - January 2010?
 

Originally Posted by Adam Tyner (Post 10189972)
The cut of Suspiria making the rounds on Cinemax-HD was cropped to 1.78:1, though...I seem to remember the credits being letterboxed, but everything else was hacked apart.

It's 2.35:1 on Netflix. Surprised it's not in HD on there too knowing that bit now.

Matthew Chmiel 06-10-10 06:40 PM

Re: Suspiria - January 2010?
 
I posted this in the Argento thread. Anything I'm missing?

The Bird with the Crystal Plumage - On Blu-ray from Blue Underground

The Cat o' Nine Tails - 2011 on Blu-ray from Blue Underground

Four Flies on Grey Velvet - No release, title owned by Mya Communication/Ryko

Deep Red - 2011 on Blu-ray from Blue Underground
[Region-free release from Arrow coming in August.]

Suspiria - No release, title owned by The Weinstein Company
[Out on Blu-ray in Region B, however it carries an inferior transfer compared to the original Anchor Bay DVD.]

Inferno - 2011 on Blu-ray from Blue Underground

Tenebre - No release, title owned by Anchor Bay/Starz
[Region-free release from Arrow coming in August.]

Phenomena - No release, title owned by Anchor Bay/Starz
[Region-free release from Arrow coming in August.]

Opera - No release, title owned by Blue Underground

Two Evil Eyes - On Blu-ray from Blue Underground

Trauma - No release, title owned by Anchor Bay/Starz

The Stendhal Syndrome - On Blu-ray from Blue Underground

Phantom of the Opera - No release, title owned by Allumination FilmWorks

Sleepless - No release, title owned by Lionsgate

The Card Player - No release, title owned by Anchor Bay/Starz

Do You Like Hitchcock? - No release, title owned by Anchor Bay/Starz

Mother of Tears - No release, title owned by The Weinstein Company

Giallo - No release, title doesn't have a rights holder yet in the US

SethDLH 06-10-10 11:20 PM

Re: Suspiria - January 2010?
 

Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 10205613)
I posted this in the Argento thread. Anything I'm missing?

The Bird with the Crystal Plumage - On Blu-ray from Blue Underground

The Cat o' Nine Tails - 2011 on Blu-ray from Blue Underground

Four Flies on Grey Velvet - No release, title owned by Mya Communication/Ryko

Deep Red - 2011 on Blu-ray from Blue Underground
[Region-free release from Arrow coming in August.]

Suspiria - No release, title owned by The Weinstein Company
[Out on Blu-ray in Region B, however it carries an inferior transfer compared to the original Anchor Bay DVD.]

Inferno - 2011 on Blu-ray from Blue Underground

Tenebre - No release, title owned by Anchor Bay/Starz
[Region-free release from Arrow coming in August.]

Phenomena - No release, title owned by Anchor Bay/Starz
[Region-free release from Arrow coming in August.]

Opera - No release, title owned by Blue Underground

Two Evil Eyes - On Blu-ray from Blue Underground

Trauma - No release, title owned by Anchor Bay/Starz

The Stendhal Syndrome - On Blu-ray from Blue Underground

Phantom of the Opera - No release, title owned by Allumination FilmWorks

Sleepless - No release, title owned by Lionsgate

The Card Player - No release, title owned by Anchor Bay/Starz

Do You Like Hitchcock? - No release, title owned by Anchor Bay/Starz

Mother of Tears - No release, title owned by The Weinstein Company

Giallo - No release, title doesn't have a rights holder yet in the US

I'd say that looks pretty complete, but can I ask where you got the info for 2011 releases from Blue Underground?

edit- just saw the news release.


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