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Re: The Official Eureka / Masters of Cinema Thread
Originally Posted by dex14
(Post 14108283)
Police Story 1-3 UHD set on the way:
THE POLICE STORY TRILOGY 4K Ultra HD https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0B1M3SMX4/ And Supercop separate Blu release: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0B1RD3436/ I'm not sure I'm ready to upgrade though unless they are able to undo the Ritrovata-ness of it all. |
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I am just going to have to go with the individual release of Supercop. The UHD set is awesome... but I can't keep rebuying this stuff.
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Originally Posted by dex14
(Post 14108677)
I am just going to have to go with the individual release of Supercop. The UHD set is awesome... but I can't keep rebuying this stuff.
I've often suspected these companies will reach a point where you realize they're only interested in a select group of 'key' films – literally the "same old, same old" – that have built-in selling power (e.g. anything with Chan, for starters). It's admittedly a pretty large list of impressive and important films, but the temptation will always be there to just keep reissuing stuff. And how long before we get another set that includes the fourth film once they figure out any legal entanglements. Sigh. In comparing the extras on POLICE STORY 1 and 2 with Eureka's previous Blu-ray set it seems the only new extras are the double commentaries. As good as those guys are (especially Frank Djeng), I'm reaching a saturation point with every 'old' movie – not just HK stuff – requiring a commentary from one of the usual suspects. |
Re: The Official Eureka / Masters of Cinema Thread
Originally Posted by Brian T
(Post 14108773)
Ditto this. Big time. It helps that I have no interest in 4K, even less so when it comes to old Hong Kong movies. I still hunt them down on VCD, for chrissakes, and still discovering cool little items far removed from the top-shelf stuff.
I've often suspected these companies will reach a point where you realize they're only interested in a select group of 'key' films – literally the "same old, same old" – that have built-in selling power (e.g. anything with Chan, for starters). It's admittedly a pretty large list of impressive and important films, but the temptation will always be there to just keep reissuing stuff. And how long before we get another set that includes the fourth film once they figure out any legal entanglements. Sigh. In comparing the extras on POLICE STORY 1 and 2 with Eureka's previous Blu-ray set it seems the only new extras are the double commentaries. As good as those guys are (especially Frank Djeng), I'm reaching a saturation point with every 'old' movie – not just HK stuff – requiring a commentary from one of the usual suspects. Also, I believe the Police Story 1 & 2 set was the second of these recent Hong Kong releases by Eureka (after Iron Monkey) and the first where they started to enlist fan experts in tracking down materials. They hadn't quite hit their stride yet and that first box doesn't live up to the level of some of the more recent ones. You already mentioned the commentaries, which are what they are, but also they've now got Police Force in HD as well as the HK cut of PS2 in HD. I also seem to recall that superior audio has been sourced for the first movie. The biggie would be if they are able to correct the color timing. I despise the Ritrovata color timing and it's almost all I can see when I watch the previous Blu-rays. Any or all of these things may not matter much to people. They kind of matter to me, but only since Police Story (specifically the first one) is such a seminal film. I'm still on the fence about upgrading, but if this has been something like Dreadnaught, which was the most recent Eureka HK title I watched, then forget it. Not interested. The Blu-ray is perfectly fine. |
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If the UHD set will be region free then I'm actually interested in purchasing it especially since it has Super Cop as part of the set. I do have the Criterion Blu-rays for the first two films but I'm still holding on to the Region Free Deltamac DVD for part 3.
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Re: The Official Eureka / Masters of Cinema Thread
Originally Posted by Brian T
(Post 14108773)
Ditto this. Big time. It helps that I have no interest in 4K, even less so when it comes to old Hong Kong movies. I still hunt them down on VCD, for chrissakes, and still discovering cool little items far removed from the top-shelf stuff.
I've often suspected these companies will reach a point where you realize they're only interested in a select group of 'key' films – literally the "same old, same old" – that have built-in selling power (e.g. anything with Chan, for starters). It's admittedly a pretty large list of impressive and important films, but the temptation will always be there to just keep reissuing stuff. And how long before we get another set that includes the fourth film once they figure out any legal entanglements. Sigh. In comparing the extras on POLICE STORY 1 and 2 with Eureka's previous Blu-ray set it seems the only new extras are the double commentaries. As good as those guys are (especially Frank Djeng), I'm reaching a saturation point with every 'old' movie – not just HK stuff – requiring a commentary from one of the usual suspects. |
Re: The Official Eureka / Masters of Cinema Thread
Originally Posted by LorenzoL
(Post 14108807)
If the UHD set will be region free then I'm actually interested in purchasing it especially since it has Super Cop as part of the set. I do have the Criterion Blu-rays for the first two films but I'm still holding on to the Region Free Deltamac DVD for part 3.
Originally Posted by LorenzoL
(Post 14108811)
You indicated previously to me the company that you use to export the Eureka sets to Canada, Brian. Would you mind telling me again the name of the company, please? Thanks!
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God Damn, I may have to get that Police Story 4K set even though I already have the Criterion BD of 1 and 2. I currently don't have an HD let alone 4K version of Supercop. I still have my Dragon Dynasty DVD set.
But yes this will have to be it. Like the Bruce Lee Criterion BD set was my last ever Bruce Lee content purchase. I have way too many Bruce discs and sets. |
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^^^ Just wait until Arrow announces their 4K Bruce Lee set. :lol:
eta: You could just get the solo Blu release of Supercop. I’d be surprised if you didn’t have a region free player. I know you love Asian cinema and it really opens you up to so much. As a fan of Jackie, the UK releases have been amazing. There is a lot of good stuff already out or on the way. Regardless… order whatever you chose direct from Eureka. It ships free and they usually ship two weeks early. |
Re: The Official Eureka / Masters of Cinema Thread
Originally Posted by rocket1312
(Post 14108804)
Format upgrades are just a fact of life in physical media. I'm not going to begrudge Eureka for doing what every single other studio/label has done for as long as home video has existed. It would have been far more egregious if PS3 on blu-ray had only been available in a new trilogy box.
Also, I believe the Police Story 1 & 2 set was the second of these recent Hong Kong releases by Eureka (after Iron Monkey) and the first where they started to enlist fan experts in tracking down materials. They hadn't quite hit their stride yet and that first box doesn't live up to the level of some of the more recent ones. You already mentioned the commentaries, which are what they are, but also they've now got Police Force in HD as well as the HK cut of PS2 in HD. I also seem to recall that superior audio has been sourced for the first movie. The biggie would be if they are able to correct the color timing. I despise the Ritrovata color timing and it's almost all I can see when I watch the previous Blu-rays. Any or all of these things may not matter much to people. They kind of matter to me, but only since Police Story (specifically the first one) is such a seminal film. I'm still on the fence about upgrading, but if this has been something like Dreadnaught, which was the most recent Eureka HK title I watched, then forget it. Not interested. The Blu-ray is perfectly fine. Agreed somewhat on the color timing, but then I've seen and owned so many versions of these films (yawn) on so many formats, with so many slight variations in colour etc., that I've kinda given up. I didn't realize the POLICE FORCE and PS2 HK cut were in HD. Still not enough to get me to buy (see previous note about me still buying and enjoying VCDs of movies few have even heard of – I'm a happy dinosaur!), but I suppose for those that didn't bother with the previous Eureka set this would be the one to get. However, if these upgrades and the commentaries are now ONLY available in the 4K set, well, that's kind of egregious as well. Kinda seems like the happy medium here – a companion Blu-ray trilogy boxed set – has been left off the table. Are Blu-rays included in the 4K set or is that not common practice? I do realize that every company has done this since forever – my collection attests to it far too often – but my point still stands that the well these companies draw from when it comes to HK cinema isn't proving to be much deeper than in any previous home video era. I suppose with 4K being a region-less format (or whatever) we can at least rest easy that Criterion or Shout or Kino won't feel a strong need to release another 4K set for the North American market . . . or will they? :lol: |
Re: The Official Eureka / Masters of Cinema Thread
Originally Posted by LorenzoL
(Post 14108811)
You indicated previously to me the company that you use to export the Eureka sets to Canada, Brian. Would you mind telling me again the name of the company, please? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by dex14
(Post 14115563)
Aug. 22 Angela Mao: Hapkido & Lady Whirlwind [Blu-ray]
https://eurekavideo.co.uk/movie/ange...ady-whirlwind/ Seriously, though, FIVE commentaries? So you'd potentially have to watch/listen to the films seven times! This is getting out of hand. I'm already feeling like some of the double commentaries on many of these HK releases that I've listened to so far could easily be tightened into one. SYNOPSIS Angela Mao and director Huang Feng (The Shaolin Plot) were a superstar pairing that produced an incredible series of top tier kung-fu classics including Deadly China Doll, When Taekwondo Strikes and the two films presented here – Hapkido and Lady Whirlwind. In Hapkido (aka. Lady Kung Fu in the West), a group of martial artists (Mao, Sammo Hung, and Carter Wong) start their own school to teach the Korean martial art, Hapkido, but a rival Japanese academy attempts to crush them – deeming Hapkido inferior to their Japanese fighting style. Similar to the plot of Bruce Lee’s Fist of Fury (a canny decision by the filmmakers, capitalising on Mao often being referred to as a “female Bruce Lee” ), Hapkido was a huge hit in the West, even briefly beating Lee’s Enter the Dragon at the North American box office. Perhaps her most iconic film, Lady Whirlwind (bizarrely re-titled as Deep Thrust in the US, to capitalise on the success of Deep Throat, which probably made its tag lines—“The Deadly Stroke of Bare Hand Combat”and “Mistress of the Death Blow”—a tad misleading) stars Mao as a deadly fighter out for revenge on the man who wronged her sister (played by Shaw Brothers veteran Chang Yi). After tracking the man down, she finds he is on his own vengeful path against a gang of Japanese thugs and agrees to help keep him alive – as long as she gets to take her revenge when it’s all over! Two excellent martial arts films make their debuts on Blu-ray—and the first time Lady Whirlwind has ever been available in the UK—from brand new 2K restorations! SPECIAL FEATURES
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James Flower tweeted that Arrow will be bringing the Mao set to the US withe the same content but different artwork. I posted the tweet on the Arrow thread.
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Re: The Official Eureka / Masters of Cinema Thread
Originally Posted by LorenzoL
(Post 14115912)
James Flower tweeted that Arrow will be bringing the Mao set to the US withe the same content but different artwork. I posted the tweet on the Arrow thread.
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Masters of Cinema has "deleted" their special edition of Vampyr. Crazy, since it just came out around Memorial Day here. DiabolikDVD has a few copies left, so you better get them before they're gone. The 3rd market sellers are already selling it 2-3 times the regular price.
https://www.diabolikdvd.com/product/...on-b-preorder/ |
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Yes!!!
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A title they'll be releasing this year . . . or a set? Mixed emotions here.
I'd really, really prefer a set, but now I suspect they're gonna dole these out piecemeal so they can pre-market them longer, string people along via social media, all that stuff, and probably stop short of releasing the full series. |
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Originally Posted by Brian T
(Post 14141388)
A title they'll be releasing this year . . . or s set? Mixed emotions here.
I'd really, really prefer a set, but now I suspect they're gonna dole these out piecemeal so they can pre-market them longer, string people along via social media, all that stuff, and probably stop short of releasing the full series. Edit: now looks like individual for the first two based on the additional teases... |
Re: The Official Eureka / Masters of Cinema Thread
Originally Posted by dex14
(Post 14141390)
I had been hearing a set of at least 1-4 (possibly 5) for a while. I hope that is what it will be as well and that they don't break them up. But they could try to make more by selling the two Yeoh films individually then sell the others as a set.
But yeah, probably singles for YES MADAM and ROYAL WARRIORS (along with MAGNIFICENT WARRIORS per your followup post), then, if we're lucky, a boxed set of 3-5, or if we're really lucky – and I seriously doubt it – a boxed set of 3-7. Gotta keep us shelling out, you see. -rolleyes-:lol: That said, I am kinda glad Eureka got them instead of 88 Films. I don't like to disparage any of the contemporary illustrators they hire for new artwork these days, as I know what goes into a decent piece of art, but 88 seems too reliant on Kung Fu Bob, whose pieces can be a bit sketchy and cluttered sometimes. |
Re: The Official Eureka / Masters of Cinema Thread
Originally Posted by Brian T
(Post 14141402)
That said, I am kinda glad Eureka got them instead of 88 Films. I don't like to disparage any of the contemporary illustrators they hire for new artwork these days, as I know what goes into a decent piece of art, but 88 seems too reliant on Kung Fu Bob, whose pieces can be a bit sketchy and cluttered sometimes.
I like the style the artist who did the Tiger Cage films. |
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