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cgray 08-11-11 10:56 AM

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Where else can I come to bitch, but every day that I have to go without a Fanny and Alexander blu-ray gets just a little harder.

Sondheim 08-11-11 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Neeb (Post 10885311)
That said, have there been any clues that have not been fulfilled with an announcement?

I'm pretty sure they once had a clue for "The Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover," but nothing has been heard of it since.

Giles 08-11-11 11:35 AM

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^ personally I like to see Criterion release not only Cook, Thief, but other Greenaway films as well.

smirnoffski 08-11-11 02:48 PM

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Looks like The Rules of the Game will be a part of the November line-up. Just received the following e-mail from Criterion:

"We will soon be announcing revised Blu-ray and DVD editions of Jean Renoir's masterpiece The Rules of the Game as part of our November lineup—we are replacing one supplement and creating new packaging.

Our original DVD edition will then be officially out of print. However, at this time we are offering it at a 65% discount from the suggested retail price at Criterion.com. (Use the promotion code REGLE at checkout.) We have a limited supply. We will fulfill orders as soon as we can."

MTRodaba2468 08-11-11 11:19 PM

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I wonder what the extra they're replacing will be. I'd normally just wait and get the Blu-Ray (like I did with Solaris), but if it's something substantial, I might grab the DVD at that cost...

Giles 08-11-11 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by smirnoffski (Post 10886131)
Looks like The Rules of the Game will be a part of the November line-up. Just received the following e-mail from Criterion:

"We will soon be announcing revised Blu-ray and DVD editions of Jean Renoir's masterpiece The Rules of the Game as part of our November lineup—we are replacing one supplement and creating new packaging.

Our original DVD edition will then be officially out of print. However, at this time we are offering it at a 65% discount from the suggested retail price at Criterion.com. (Use the promotion code REGLE at checkout.) We have a limited supply. We will fulfill orders as soon as we can."

oh come on, how about The River - the colours alone scream out for a hidef release.

Superdaddy 08-12-11 12:06 PM

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Who else has gone through the CC DVD list and tried to pick the likely future upgrades to BD? I did it again right after the B&N sale. Rules was one I figured they'd get to, as it's a seminal film. Nice to see it's coming in November. I don't own it, and have held off on the DVD, so I'll probably get the BD at some point.

And yes, I agree they should get around to The River as well. Glorious Technicolor looks great on BD.

MTRodaba2468 08-12-11 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Superdaddy (Post 10887189)
Who else has gone through the CC DVD list and tried to pick the likely future upgrades to BD? I did it again right after the B&N sale. Rules was one I figured they'd get to, as it's a seminal film. Nice to see it's coming in November. I don't own it, and have held off on the DVD, so I'll probably get the BD at some point.

And yes, I agree they should get around to The River as well. Glorious Technicolor looks great on BD.

There are films where it's an absolute given they will be updated at some point (Rules being one I figured they would do sooner or later, although I decided to grab the standard DVD at the current price, and if I decide to, I can wait for the next B&N sale for the Blu-Ray). But there have been some odd picks, too. I mean everybody was expecting films like Seven Samurai, The 400 Blows, The Seventh Seal, Videodrome, etc, at some point. How many were expecting My Life As A Dog, Fat Girl, or Yi Yi to come out this soon, especially over other films in the collection?

Giles 08-12-11 04:18 PM

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I wonder if Criterion can locate a more pristine negative for Tunes of Glory - there's a nasty reel scratch that mars the DVD edition

riotinmyskull 08-13-11 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by criterion's facebook

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looks like RUSHMORE it is...this makes me excited for 2 reasons: i'm a fan and maybe people will finally shut the fuck up about it getting released.

RobLutter 08-13-11 02:37 PM

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I'm not going to stop complaining till The Aquatic Life with Steve Zissou is released on BD. :)

JayDerek 08-13-11 02:48 PM

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November's looking like a helluva month! :)

AnonomusBob15 08-13-11 04:04 PM

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Rushmore is one of my favorite films of all time. I've probably watched my DVD fifty times. This makes my day.

TheDuke 08-13-11 04:16 PM

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Finally! Now they can get to work on Picnic at Hanging Rock ;)

Artman 08-13-11 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by riotinmyskull (Post 10888227)
looks like RUSHMORE it is...this makes me excited for 2 reasons: i'm a fan and maybe people will finally shut the fuck up about it getting released.

Still two more to go!

Guru Askew 08-13-11 08:15 PM

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If Disney/Touchstone licensed "Rushmore" then the other two are a sure thing.

Disney hasn't licensed to Criterion in the Blu era but they've been more than happy to lend all those second-string Touchstone titles to Mill Creek so licensing three more prestigious titles to Criterion at the director's behest isn't much of a stretch in hindsight.

There will be a few more months of people begging fir the other two Disney-controlled Anderson films. Then you can look forward to people begging for "Fantastic Mr. Fox."

georgec 08-13-11 10:45 PM

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Yes! Rushmore!

MTRodaba2468 08-13-11 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by riotinmyskull (Post 10888227)
looks like RUSHMORE it is...this makes me excited for 2 reasons: i'm a fan and maybe people will finally shut the fuck up about it getting released.

Certainly makes me happy. Rushmore (with The Royal Tenenbaums close behind) is my favorite Wes Anderson film.

Gizmo 08-14-11 10:27 AM

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RUSHMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111


YES, I am that excited.

...Now where are the other Wes Anderson films?

Gizmo 08-14-11 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RobLutter (Post 10888230)
I'm not going to stop complaining till The Aquatic Life with Steve Zissou is released on BD. :)

Hell yeah!


Originally Posted by AnonomusBob15 (Post 10888291)
Rushmore is one of my favorite films of all time. I've probably watched my DVD fifty times. This makes my day.

YES!


Originally Posted by Guru Askew (Post 10888499)

There will be a few more months of people begging fir the other two Disney-controlled Anderson films. Then you can look forward to people begging for "Fantastic Mr. Fox."

Fox would be nice, but the current Blu-ray is pretty damn perfect. Aside from more extras, nothing to improve on PQ/AQ Wise.

Superdaddy 08-14-11 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MTRodaba2468 (Post 10887437)
There are films where it's an absolute given they will be updated at some point (Rules being one I figured they would do sooner or later, although I decided to grab the standard DVD at the current price, and if I decide to, I can wait for the next B&N sale for the Blu-Ray). But there have been some odd picks, too. I mean everybody was expecting films like Seven Samurai, The 400 Blows, The Seventh Seal, Videodrome, etc, at some point. How many were expecting My Life As A Dog, Fat Girl, or Yi Yi to come out this soon, especially over other films in the collection?

Those "surprise picks" are fun. They're another thing that makes waiting for the monthly announcements exciting.

I see the CC just keeps teasing the November titles. Wonder what else they have up their sleeve. Guess we will find out tomorrow!

Superdaddy 08-14-11 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDuke (Post 10888302)
Finally! Now they can get to work on Picnic at Hanging Rock ;)

Yes, feel free to bring this on anytime CC...more Peter Weir on BD would be a nice thing. (No objections to The Last Wave either, if you feel like it...)

PopcornTreeCt 08-15-11 02:41 PM

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Announcements soon!

JayDerek 08-15-11 02:48 PM

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NoirFan 08-15-11 02:57 PM

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Which cut of Fanny and Alexander will that be? I'm in for 12 Angry Men, and am satisfied with my DVDs of Kieslowski, Rushmore and The Rules of the Game.

JayDerek 08-15-11 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NoirFan (Post 10890214)
Which cut of Fanny and Alexander will that be?

BOTH versions included

NoirFan 08-15-11 03:02 PM

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Three Colors Trilogy

This boldly cinematic trio of stories about love and loss from Krzysztof Kieślowski was a defining event of the art-house boom of the 1990s. The films were named for the colors of the French flag and stand for the tenets of the French Revolution—liberty, equality, and fraternity—but this hardly begins to explain their enigmatic beauty and rich humanity. Set in Paris, Warsaw, and Geneva, and ranging from tragedy to comedy, Blue, White, and Red (Kieślowski’s final film) examine with artistic clarity a group of ambiguously interconnected people experiencing profound personal disruptions. Marked by intoxicating cinematography and stirring performances by such actors as Juliette Binoche, Julie Delpy, Irène Jacob, and Jean-Louis Trintignant, Kieślowski’s Three Colors is a benchmark of contemporary cinema.

Disc Features

- New high-definition digital restorations (with DTS-HD Master Audio on the Blu-ray editions)
- Three cinema lessons with director Krzysztof Kieślowski
- New interviews with composer Zbigniew Preisner; writer Krzysztof Piesiewicz; and actors Julie Delpy, Zbigniew Zamachowski, and Irène Jacob
- Selected-scene commentary for Blue with actress Juliette Binoche
- Three new video essays, by film writers Annette Insdorf, Tony Rayns, and Dennis Lim
- Kieślowski’s student short The Tram (1966) and his fellow student’s short from the same year The Face, which features Kieślowski in a solo performance
- Two short documentaries by Kieślowski: Seven Women of Different Ages (1978) and Talking Heads (1980)
- Krzysztof Kieślowski: I’m So-So . . . (1995), a feature-length documentary in which the filmmaker discusses his life and work
- Two multi-interview programs, Reflections on “Blue” and Kieślowski: The Early Years, with film critic Geoff Andrew, Binoche, filmmaker Agnieszka Holland, cinematographer Sławomir Idziak, Insdorf, Jacob, and editor Jacques Witta
- Interviews with producer Marin Karmitz and Witta
- Behind-the-scenes programs for White and Red, and Kieślowski Cannes 1994, a short documentary on Red’s world premiere
- Original theatrical trailers
- New and improved English subtitle translations
PLUS: A booklet featuring essays by critics Colin MacCabe, Nick James, Stuart Klawans, and Georgina Evans, an excerpt from Kieślowski on Kieślowski, and reprinted interviews with cinematographers Sławomir Idziak, Edward Klosinski, and Piotr Sobocinski

12 Angry Men, by Sidney Lumet, may be the most radical big-screen courtroom drama in cinema history. A behind-closed-doors look at the American legal system as riveting as it is spare, the iconic adaptation of Reginald Rose’s teleplay stars Henry Fonda as the initially dissenting foreman on a jury of white men ready to pass judgment on a Puerto Rican teenager charged with murdering his father. What results is a saga of epic proportions that plays out in real time over ninety minutes in one sweltering room. Lumet’s electrifying snapshot of 1950s America on the verge of change is one of the great feature-film debuts.

Disc Features

- New high-definition digital restoration (with uncom*pressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray edition)
- Frank Schaffner’s 1955 television version, with an introduction by Ron Simon, director of the Paley Center for Media Studies
- “Twelve Angry Men”: From Television to the Big Screen, a video essay by film scholar Vance Kapley comparing the Sidney Lumet and Schaffner versions
- Archival interviews with Lumet
- New interview about the director with writer Walter Bernstein
- New interview with Simon about television writer Reginald Rose
- New interview with cinematographer John Bailey in which he discusses cinematographer Boris Kaufman
- Tragedy in a Temporary Town (1956), a teleplay directed by Lumet and written by Rose
- Original theatrical trailer
- PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by writer and law professor Thane Rosenbaum

clckworang 08-15-11 03:04 PM

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I'm excited about all of those releases, especially Rushmore, one of my favorite comedies. Can't wait for these!

PopcornTreeCt 08-15-11 03:06 PM

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:up: great month!

12 Angry Men was a shock. Will love to see the Kieslowski's in high definition.

NoirFan 08-15-11 03:06 PM

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Still waiting on The Game - I figured that would be a lock for November. Also, no Y Tu Mama Tambien or Following. December perhaps?

JayDerek 08-15-11 03:16 PM

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I like the box cover image for Three Colors, but good god, does that cover for Blue look terrible. Such an odd image to represent that film. :(

Superdaddy 08-15-11 03:17 PM

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12 ANGRY MEN ON BLU-RAY!!!!!!

Wow, wow, triple wow.

Incredible, incredible month.

My CC wish list just gets bigger and bigger.

I'll be in for all of these eventually except Rushmore...and maybe that too someday, if I ever get around to watching more Anderson...

Criterion has just been knocking it out of the park these last couple of years.

Bravo, bravo CC!

EDIT: Where is Rushmore? I thought that was definite...maybe December???

slop101 08-15-11 03:17 PM

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meh.

These are all great releases and I'll get them all, etc. But I'm tired of announcements for stuff I already have on dvd - it's a foregone conclusion that most of the stuff on dvd will be released on blu - let's hear some announcements for stuff that don't have a release at all!

Oh, and the new Rules cover is shit.

PopcornTreeCt 08-15-11 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 10890241)
meh.

These are all great releases and I'll get them all, etc. But I'm tired of announcements for stuff I already have on dvd - it's a foregone conclusion that most of the stuff on dvd will be released on blu - let's hear some announcements for stuff that don't have a release at all!

Oh, and the new Rules cover is shit.

Seriously?

Now I'm sure you could name off like 100 films I haven't ever heard of but pretty much all the classics have been released on DVD in one region or the next.

Superdaddy 08-15-11 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 10890241)
meh.

These are all great releases and I'll get them all, etc. But I'm tired of announcements for stuff I already have on dvd - it's a foregone conclusion that most of the stuff on dvd will be released on blu - let's hear some announcements for stuff that don't have a release at all!

Oh, and the new Rules cover is shit.

I completely agree with your first point, but I am MUCH less optimistic than you are regarding the eventual upgrade to BD of many classic catalog titles.

If it takes a lot of them being licensed to smaller labels like Criterion to get them out, I'm all for it.

I was just reading some threads on the HTF where they were discussing Warner's catalog output, arguably the most aggressive of the major studios, and it was still depressing.

"George Feltenstein's word is...black and white films on BD don't sell." Those kinds of posts. :(

Gizmo 08-15-11 04:02 PM

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Rushmore is Nov 22nd.

Superdaddy 08-15-11 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10890320)
Rushmore is Nov 22nd.

Ah, thanks Gizmo...haven't checked the specific release dates yet.

jrsl76 08-15-11 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 10890241)
Oh, and the new Rules cover is shit.

Agreed.

Sondheim 08-15-11 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 10890241)
meh.

These are all great releases and I'll get them all, etc. But I'm tired of announcements for stuff I already have on dvd - it's a foregone conclusion that most of the stuff on dvd will be released on blu - let's hear some announcements for stuff that don't have a release at all!

Oh, and the new Rules cover is shit.

The new "Rules" cover is great, but I completely agree with the rest of your post, and was just getting ready to post the same thing almost verbatim.

While it will, of course, be nice to see masterpieces like the Three Colors films and "Fanny and Alexander" in HD, the month is a little underwhelming since I already own every single title (excepting the three in the Eclipse set, which I am excited for) on good quality DVD.

Their most exciting recent announcements, in my opinion, have been for stuff like "The Phantom Carriage," "Island of Lost Souls," and "The Music Room" - great films that had never had a DVD release in R1 (or, in the case of the last film, no decent release anywhere in the world.)

I do realize, of course, that Criterion is a business, and that if they started releasing only titles from some of the more "obscure" great directors like Epstein, Rivette, and Gremillion (all directors who have been largely ignored by DVD companies), they'd quickly be out of business. I also realize that realizes like the Kieslowski set and "Rushmore" will earn them money for releases of some more "obscure" titles - but, in my ideal world, we would at least see one or two brand new to DVD titles every month.

Sondheim 08-15-11 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 10890253)
Seriously?

Now I'm sure you could name off like 100 films I haven't ever heard of but pretty much all the classics have been released on DVD in one region or the next.

It depends on how you define classic. If you mean the few hundred films that constantly show up on things like the AFI list and the top few hundred of the They Shoot Pictures, Don't They list, then I agree - a large majority of those are now available in decent quality releases somewhere in the world.

However, if you look through something like Jonathan Rosenbaum's Top 1000, or the latter half of the They Shoot Pictures list (or once you try to watch, say, some early works of German cinema), you'll realize that there are a ton of great (though not always well known) films that have never been available on good quality DVD. And they're not all hard to watch, overly "artsy" films - a lot of them are just as "accessible" (as in easy to watch and appreciate) as a lot of the established classics, but have happened to fall outside of the canon for one reason or another (often only due to lack of availability.)


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