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NoirFan 12-16-10 07:00 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Originally Posted by JJE-187 (Post 10547792)
Tanner '88 and The Golden Age of Television were both TV series and Criterion released them on DVD.
Yes, but those were only two and three discs, respectively. A Twin Peaks box would be pretty hefty in comparison, and I'm guessing almost all fans of the show already have either the individual seasons or the massive complete set from a couple of years back. Criterion has yet to release a Blu-ray only title, and a DVD edition of the complete series would have zero sales. It doesn't make sense from either a logistical or an economic standpoint for Criterion.

JJE-187 12-16-10 08:14 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
I never said it made sense, I was just stating that criterion has released TV series in the past but not multi-season sets. I don't think we will ever see any Twin Peaks from criterion (TV or Movie)

Giles 12-16-10 08:24 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Originally Posted by cgray (Post 10545818)
Yawns over Yi-Yi? I'd say it deserves another chance in your viewing schedule.
I could barely make it through the first thirty minutes, I'd give a second chance, but Yi-Yi didn't wow me in the slightest.

tylergfoster 12-16-10 09:58 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Since Lynch had what appears to be complete (or complete enough to his liking) control over the box set of the series, I don't know what benefit there would be to a Criterion edition. As for the movie, maybe Criterion would cough up to finally get that hour of deleted scenes finished and put onto a disc.

cgray 12-16-10 10:12 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Originally Posted by Giles (Post 10547895)
I could barely make it through the first thirty minutes, I'd give a second chance, but Yi-Yi didn't wow me in the slightest.
I really think Yi Yi is one of the best films in the entire collection, and certainly one of the top 2 or 3 from the 2000's (I'd say the top, but I'm not looking at all of the release dates.). Anyway, that's why the collection is fun: to each their own. I'm just very pleased to see it coming. I'm surprised not to see more advocates on here: "More Ozu!" but yawn to Edward Yang? Nutso.

Solid Snake 12-17-10 08:39 AM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 10547086)
That's what she said...

nitin77 12-17-10 11:47 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Originally Posted by NoirFan (Post 10546942)
There are a dozen Hitchcock films I'd rather upgrade, but Criterion could release Number 17 or Juno and the Paycock on Blu-ray and I'd buy them.
True, I was taking into consideration what they have rights to. I would also prefer 39 steps or Lady Vanishes first but Foreign Correspondent will do just fine too.

NoirFan 12-19-10 11:09 AM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
From Criterion's Facebook page:

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...3_571664_n.jpg

I'd really love a De Palma commentary on this one, but I think he's one of those guys who doesn't believe in them.

TheDuke 12-19-10 02:57 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
And the significance of that picture is...?

NoirFan 12-19-10 02:59 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Uh, Brian De Palma recording an interview for the upcoming release of Blow Out?

PopcornTreeCt 12-19-10 03:55 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Originally Posted by TheDuke (Post 10551841)
And the significance of that picture is...?
Scarface11!!!!!

kefrank 12-19-10 04:00 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Originally Posted by TheDuke (Post 10551841)
And the significance of that picture is...?
From that picture, we can now surmise with certainty that Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me is being released by Criterion. ;)

Supermallet 12-19-10 04:16 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
That's silly. It's clearly pointing to the Criterion release of the Guinea Pig series.

TheDuke 12-19-10 05:37 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Well I don't know who the hell that guy is! Jesus Christ...

gryffinmaster 12-19-10 05:39 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Originally Posted by TheDuke (Post 10552128)
Well I don't know who the hell that guy is! Jesus Christ...
http://www.upress.state.ms.us/images...157806516X.jpg

Supermallet 12-19-10 05:44 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Originally Posted by TheDuke (Post 10552128)
Well I don't know who the hell that guy is! Jesus Christ...
I'll give you a hint: It's not Jesus Christ.

TheDuke 12-19-10 06:24 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Originally Posted by gryffinmaster (Post 10552131)
Okay, thank you!

doctorthodt 12-19-10 06:29 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
His name is in the post right under the picture :confused:

TheDuke 12-19-10 06:49 PM
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Well yeah, but that quote is taken completely out of context. I don't know what exactly that picture is from, maybe it's a screen shot from the movie they are talking about that is directed by him (which is what I originally though). There isn't a real accurate way for me to know.

DthRdrX 12-19-10 07:33 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Originally Posted by NoirFan (Post 10546211)
The only Hitchcock films they still have the rights to are 39 Steps and The Lady Vanishes. I'm wondering why we haven't seen a second Chaplin film announced yet.
I'll gladly take either! The 39 Steps is one of my favorites!

Honestly, I'm just hoping for more upgraded releases of certain titles before we get more situations like RAN, which was a huge disapointment.

wendersfan 12-21-10 12:58 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 10545650)
Don't forget Yi Yi getting released on Blu-ray.

Otherwise, this is probably the most disappointing month in a very long time.
I'm all over the Yi-Yi (I never double-dipped on the Criterion DVD release), but yeah, other than that not too exciting.

Pizza 12-21-10 02:52 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Originally Posted by DthRdrX (Post 10552314)
I'll gladly take either! The 39 Steps is one of my favorites!

Honestly, I'm just hoping for more upgraded releases of certain titles before we get more situations like RAN, which was a huge disapointment.
Go see the show. It is hilarious! And, I was amazed when I watched the film how faithful it actually was.

NoirFan 12-21-10 03:04 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
From The Playlist:
Olivier Assayas’ explosive and electric epic “Carlos” will be released on The Criterion Collection in 2011....The release will contain both the extended television cut of the film as well as the shorter theatrical edit

Josh Z 12-21-10 04:08 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
The shorter theatrical edit? Wasn't the theatrical cut 4 hours? How the hell long is this movie?

NoirFan 12-21-10 04:11 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 10555343)
The shorter theatrical edit? Wasn't the theatrical cut 4 hours? How the hell long is this movie?
From the same article:
...five-and-a-half-hour butt-numbing glory.
Hell, that's nothing. Bela Tarr's Satantango is seven and a half hours of butt-numbing.

nitin77 12-21-10 09:06 PM
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The theatrical cut is about 3 hrs. The tv version is three 100-110 min episodes.

I would be excited but I already got the UK release for 12 pounds shipped not that long ago. And the quality can only be so much better, the UK transfer is already reasonably good.

Giles 12-22-10 12:12 AM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
I assume the Criterion release of 'Carlos' will have a bevy of supplements (fingers crossed) unlike the UK bluray.

InnocentBlood 12-22-10 12:18 AM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
I'm glad they picked up Carlos - I'm hoping they'll pick up Mesrine also :)

doctorthodt 12-22-10 07:58 AM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Originally Posted by InnocentBlood (Post 10555934)
I'm glad they picked up Carlos - I'm hoping they'll pick up Mesrine also :)
Mesrine is already being released in the US by Music Box.

PopcornTreeCt 12-22-10 09:23 AM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Glad they got Carlos as well. I nearly pulled the trigger on the UK release.

MTRodaba2468 12-23-10 01:50 AM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Can't say I'm surprised about Carlos. I'm interested in checking it out...

wendersfan 12-24-10 08:13 AM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Originally Posted by NoirFan (Post 10555349)
From the same article:

Hell, that's nothing. Bela Tarr's Satantango is seven and a half hours of butt-numbing.
Having seen both Carlos and Satantango in a theater, I can say that Carlos, even though it's two hours shorter, is a more tiring experience. It's a full on assault of the senses, while Satantango has long periods of no dialogue or camera movement.

slop101 12-24-10 11:44 AM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Originally Posted by wendersfan (Post 10558772)
Having seen both Carlos and Satantango in a theater, I can say that Carlos, even though it's two hours shorter, is a more tiring experience. It's a full on assault of the senses, while Satantango has long periods of no dialogue or camera movement.
To some people, that aspect of Satantango is far more tiring, making it seem longer than it is.

Kory 12-25-10 03:52 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Can somebody explain why "Drive, He Said" and "A Safe Place" are bundled together in the BBS set? I just purchased it on a complete blind buy, and I'm kind of confused. I don't want to read too much about them either, in order to avoid potential spoilers.

Ropes Pierre 12-25-10 04:15 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Originally Posted by gryffinmaster (Post 10493177)

FISH TANK

SYNOPSIS: British director Andrea Arnold won the Cannes Jury Prize for the searing and invigorating Fish Tank, about a fifteen-year-old girl, Mia (electrifying newcomer Katie Jarvis), who lives with her mother and sister in the depressed housing projects of Essex. Mia’s adolescent conflicts and emerging sexuality reach boiling points when her mother’s new boyfriend (a lethally attractive Michael Fassbender) enters the picture. In her young career, Arnold has already proven herself to be a master of social realism (evoking the work of Mike Leigh and Ken Loach), investing her sympathetic portraits of dead-end lives with a poetic, earthy sensibility all her own. Fish Tank heralds the official arrival of a major new filmmaker.

Disc Features

* New high-definition digital transfer, approved by director Andrea Arnold, director of photography Robbie Ryan, and editor Nicolas Chaudeurge (with DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack on the Blu-ray edition)
* All three of Arnold’s short films: Milk (1998), Dog (2001), and the Oscar-winning Wasp (2003)
* New video interview with actor Kierston Wareing
* Interview with actor Michael Fassbender from 2009
* Audition footage
* Stills gallery by on-set photographer Holly Horner
* Original theatrical trailer
* PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by film scholar Ian Christie



Having just seen this On Demand, and coming into it late i wonder how likely it is there will be a version with commentary. From what i understand Criterion does not put out "Definitive/Most Definitive/Definitive Harder/Definitive Boomstick" editions, and what i see is most likely the only version they will release for this.

I admit to having a bias and feeling like i am missing out when there is no director or cast discussion, no film critic analysis/commentary (like for 7 samurai), or something along those lines. Having read the director and Michael Fassbender did a panel at BAM (Brooklyn academy of music) when the film first came out, i guess there is a part of me that secretly hoped it was filmed and somehow would end up on a disc.

JoshuaSokolov 12-26-10 12:56 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
I managed to get some Amazon gift cards and decided to increase my Criterion Collection collection some more. I've seen numerous reports of defective Wings of Desire and The 400 Blows blu-rays, do you think that these have been purged from Amazon or basically, am I safe ordering them both? My current blu-ray player is okay and does the job (it can play any Criterion blu released before June 2010, going to buy a PS3 soon so I can play the rest of my collection). Not seeing any issues regarding Wages of Fear, Repulsion and Breathless blus, but I am looking around to make sure.

sleepyhead55 12-26-10 01:43 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Originally Posted by JoshuaSokolov (Post 10560900)
I managed to get some Amazon gift cards and decided to increase my Criterion Collection collection some more. I've seen numerous reports of defective Wings of Desire and The 400 Blows blu-rays, do you think that these have been purged from Amazon or basically, am I safe ordering them both? My current blu-ray player is okay and does the job (it can play any Criterion blu released before June 2010, going to buy a PS3 soon so I can play the rest of my collection). Not seeing any issues regarding Wages of Fear, Repulsion and Breathless blus, but I am looking around to make sure.
I watched my copy of Wings of Desire when I bought it last year (Nov 2009) on a PS3 and noticed no issues at all. Granted I bought mine at a BN during the November sale last year. But this is the 1st I've heard of defective BD of Wings of Desire.

What's your current bluray player? Can't you just do a firmware update? Wasn't Breathless released in September 2010?

JoshuaSokolov 12-26-10 02:22 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Originally Posted by sleepyhead55 (Post 10560961)
What's your current bluray player? Can't you just do a firmware update? Wasn't Breathless released in September 2010?
Sharp Aquos BD-HP20U I think or whichever model they don't make anymore so no firmware is available for it. I've had it for a couple of years and its been pretty loyal alternative since PS3s have been getting cheaper and more tempting to bite on. I have a lot of stuff released after July 2010 that I want to watch and already, in fact, own.

NoirFan 12-29-10 12:26 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
This has nothing to do with Blu-ray (although I'd be ecstatic if Criterion re-released The Blob in that format), but I wasn't sure where else to put it. Here's a fun little documentary on The Blob, it's fans, and the town in which it was shot.

Kory 12-29-10 03:20 PM
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Originally Posted by Kory (Post 10560156)
Can somebody explain why "Drive, He Said" and "A Safe Place" are bundled together in the BBS set? I just purchased it on a complete blind buy, and I'm kind of confused. I don't want to read too much about them either, in order to avoid potential spoilers.
Anyone?


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